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	<title>Comments on: Why AG appeared for charging 26 Hindraf supporters but did not appear for Altantunya murder trial?</title>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-63182</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply don&#039;t understand why so many witnesses were required for the Altantunya case. Actually, we only need to examine two key witnesses, i.e. the policewoman who escorted the deceased and the guy in charge of the ammunition department. 

The policewoman had been with the deceased and was responsible for delivering her in court. She should very well know what was done to the deceased before her body was blown up. Get the truth from her!!!!

The guy in charge of the ammunition department should keep proper records of all ammunition coming in and going out and by just giving the lame excuse of &quot;I was careless&quot; in court was simply an irresponsible answer. The explosive used to blow up the body was not common and seldom used. So get the records straight, how much was there before any purchase was made, how much has been taken out and by whom and how much is the balance. This is simple costing and the guy in charge of the ammunition department should be able to provide such information. That would have concluded the case but they have taken so much time and called so many witnesses just to set up a smoke screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply don&#8217;t understand why so many witnesses were required for the Altantunya case. Actually, we only need to examine two key witnesses, i.e. the policewoman who escorted the deceased and the guy in charge of the ammunition department. </p>
<p>The policewoman had been with the deceased and was responsible for delivering her in court. She should very well know what was done to the deceased before her body was blown up. Get the truth from her!!!!</p>
<p>The guy in charge of the ammunition department should keep proper records of all ammunition coming in and going out and by just giving the lame excuse of &#8220;I was careless&#8221; in court was simply an irresponsible answer. The explosive used to blow up the body was not common and seldom used. So get the records straight, how much was there before any purchase was made, how much has been taken out and by whom and how much is the balance. This is simple costing and the guy in charge of the ammunition department should be able to provide such information. That would have concluded the case but they have taken so much time and called so many witnesses just to set up a smoke screen.</p>
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		<title>By: tunglang</title>
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		<dc:creator>tunglang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œThere are such things as bad laws - this becomes obvious after a while when put to the test by unexpected events.â€

There is only poorly drafted legislation - rather than bad law.

In Malaysia, we see laws drafted, enforced, manipulated and interpreted to the self interest of certain parties to achieve their devious goals. Then they become bad, bad laws.
One doesn&#039;t have to go to law schools to understand that.
Even our lawyers in the know have to take that March to Putrajaya, what does that mean??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œThere are such things as bad laws &#8211; this becomes obvious after a while when put to the test by unexpected events.â€</p>
<p>There is only poorly drafted legislation &#8211; rather than bad law.</p>
<p>In Malaysia, we see laws drafted, enforced, manipulated and interpreted to the self interest of certain parties to achieve their devious goals. Then they become bad, bad laws.<br />
One doesn&#8217;t have to go to law schools to understand that.<br />
Even our lawyers in the know have to take that March to Putrajaya, what does that mean??</p>
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		<title>By: Godamn Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godamn Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOT DUMB M&#039;SAN SAYS:

&quot;The Bar Council demonstrations, BERSIH and Hindraf are not racial in nature&quot;

But I thought the HINDRAF demonstrators are all Tamil Indians??? Is there a white Tamil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT DUMB M&#8217;SAN SAYS:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Bar Council demonstrations, BERSIH and Hindraf are not racial in nature&#8221;</p>
<p>But I thought the HINDRAF demonstrators are all Tamil Indians??? Is there a white Tamil?</p>
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		<title>By: KS R</title>
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		<dc:creator>KS R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Boss

AltantunyaÃ¢ case AG cannot attend because the local and the world knows the true story.

2nd from my friend

Denison Jayasooria talks big that the goverment has done alot for 
indians. Todate all these government  have been only claiming 
that goverment has done alot for indians. Well if they have why dont 
you fools give us a breakdown on the following and stop talking 
through the wrong head

1. how many indians have been given government scholarships
2. how many indian students have been given places in universities
3. how many hindu temples have been given goverment grant or land 
and amount of money to build
4. how many estates have been upgraded
5. how many extreme poor indians receive welfare and how much each 
family receives
6. how many indians hold senior positions in goverment departments
7. how many indians are employed by the goverment
8. how many indian companies are given goverment contracts

There are many more questions but lets start with those mentioned 
above are they are the most crucial in the uplifting of the status 
of indians.

If you can provide the details, then we can see the truth, if you 
cant just keep your mouth shut and dont tell lies for your own 
selfish benefit. Shame on you. 
You are a disgrace to your own people. With you, 
the indian community does not need any enemies. 

The facts speaks for itself. It is not enough to claim things, proof 
it with facts and figures. 

My friend cannot scold him pocket sudah penoh atau remote control talk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Boss</p>
<p>AltantunyaÃ¢ case AG cannot attend because the local and the world knows the true story.</p>
<p>2nd from my friend</p>
<p>Denison Jayasooria talks big that the goverment has done alot for<br />
indians. Todate all these government  have been only claiming<br />
that goverment has done alot for indians. Well if they have why dont<br />
you fools give us a breakdown on the following and stop talking<br />
through the wrong head</p>
<p>1. how many indians have been given government scholarships<br />
2. how many indian students have been given places in universities<br />
3. how many hindu temples have been given goverment grant or land<br />
and amount of money to build<br />
4. how many estates have been upgraded<br />
5. how many extreme poor indians receive welfare and how much each<br />
family receives<br />
6. how many indians hold senior positions in goverment departments<br />
7. how many indians are employed by the goverment<br />
8. how many indian companies are given goverment contracts</p>
<p>There are many more questions but lets start with those mentioned<br />
above are they are the most crucial in the uplifting of the status<br />
of indians.</p>
<p>If you can provide the details, then we can see the truth, if you<br />
cant just keep your mouth shut and dont tell lies for your own<br />
selfish benefit. Shame on you.<br />
You are a disgrace to your own people. With you,<br />
the indian community does not need any enemies. </p>
<p>The facts speaks for itself. It is not enough to claim things, proof<br />
it with facts and figures. </p>
<p>My friend cannot scold him pocket sudah penoh atau remote control talk</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61509</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is then the laughable suggestion that international terrorist groups are supporting Hindraf..&quot;



It is not so laughable when you have a HINDRAF leader telling audience overseas that he cannot rule out violence by HINDRAF supporters, and looks to  monks in Myanmar as role models! I am not saying those monks are terrorists.



But when you have an Indian professor and an influential Indian columnist with a leading newspaper in India  quoted as saying that â€œThe dirt-poor, seething Malaysian Tamilsâ€¦. are ideal recruiting material for a local variant of the LTTEâ€ (an organization labeled as â€œterroristâ€ by the U.S.)  it ceases to be a laughing matter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is then the laughable suggestion that international terrorist groups are supporting Hindraf..&#8221;</p>
<p>It is not so laughable when you have a HINDRAF leader telling audience overseas that he cannot rule out violence by HINDRAF supporters, and looks to  monks in Myanmar as role models! I am not saying those monks are terrorists.</p>
<p>But when you have an Indian professor and an influential Indian columnist with a leading newspaper in India  quoted as saying that â€œThe dirt-poor, seething Malaysian Tamilsâ€¦. are ideal recruiting material for a local variant of the LTTEâ€ (an organization labeled as â€œterroristâ€ by the U.S.)  it ceases to be a laughing matter!</p>
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		<title>By: NOT DUMB MALAYSIAN</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61270</link>
		<dc:creator>NOT DUMB MALAYSIAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>INTINIMATION - CHARRGING HIDNRAF FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER:  THE Making of a Them and Us Culture in Malaysia.

Besides the question of the prosecutionÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s ability [which is doubted as nothing can come out of sheer fabrications] to prove beyond reasonable doubt that these 31 charged harboured the intention to murder,  most non-dumb Malaysians would dismiss this wild and unsubstantiated step of a  desperate BN who finds that the traditional methods are not sufficient to quell the boiling cauldron of discontent. The Bar Council demonstrations, BERSIH and Hindraf are not racial in nature .  It is a vociferous cry of damnation by the public of injustices after 50 years of merdeka 

What would common law lawmakers around the world think of this ludicrous Ã¢â‚¬ËœInstant ChargeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢. The lawmakers from other common law jurisdictions would probably carefully assemble their situation, assemble the evidence and documents and after due consideration frame the charge.   This charge of attempted murder demonstrate BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s failing  and desperate and sad stance of containing the boiling cauldron of discontent that is rocking the contrary.  Does the AG not learn that the governrntal agencies will not be that pliant and echo the wishes of of the AG.  The Klang court throwing out the sedition charges makes this abundantly clear.  Yet this is not clear for the AG and yet again more of its resources are diverted to Hindraf in its process fo intimation bdy the filing of a judicial review.  What aboutt the files concerning offences against the public outstanding in the AG chambers. They are put on hold while the AG goes on a holy crusade to silence Malaysians.

The charge of attempted murder against the 31  Hindraf demonstrators is no more than the BN&#039;s use of governmental resources  [intended fro the general public to harass them.  It is the crudest form of intimation. When the powers that be find that charging these demonstrators for unlawful assembly,  does not work. They talk of the ISA Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a perennial favorite instrument for repression of the Malaysians first practised by the British and now adopted gratefully by BN to intimate the public. Then there is talk of the Police investigating  the  possible sedition in blog postings [Sun 6 Dec].  There is then the laughable suggestion that international terrorist groups are supporting Hindraf..

  BUSH WRING HIS HAND WITH GLEE Ã¢â‚¬â€œD DDIARAQ WMP AND IRAN BOMB. SAME VEIN

Prolonging the dayÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s trial for 9 hours is so transparent a harassment and revulse all Malaysians

The instructions to harass must have come from very high up. While they cannot destroy the spirit of Hindraf, they use these procedures to punish them.  No allowing bail is just another instance.  Just imagine, the international free press will have a hey day in reporting this.

That the instructions to harass these Hindraf supporters must have come from the top.  Having Attorney-General Abdul Gani Patail 5o prosecute is so blatantly using the weight of the Chambers to punish. And the punishment are meted out administratively without a single shred of evidence tendered in court. Clearly the instruction must be to use all and every mean to harass including\ filing for a judicial review of he discharge of he three lawyers in Klang.

Do these people not know that this type of crude tactics only harden the resolve of the people.  History has shown that the will of the people can be suppressed but not destroyed.  More importantly, these developments lead to the polarisation of the people.  They can only be damning to the BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s chances in the next election.  When the results are out, they will learn what they have done.  ere is now a Them and Us Culture which developing exponentially in Malaysia.  Those who support hindraf belongs to the US camp and those who are speaking against free speech and the freedom of assembly  in the THEM camp.

We Malaysians not that dumb to see that those who are appointed to uphold justice in this country are exploited for a political reason and are mere pawn pieces in the punishment of accused who are guilty before they are properly tried.

In the past, the communists were blamed for all things wrong. Now this clutch blame device is no longer available, they blame it on the oppositions.  If the oppositions can orchestrate this country-wide boiling discontent, they will have no problem winning the next general election.  We Malaysians are not THAT DUMB.

Never in the history of Malaysia during election year has the ruling party thrown down the gauntlet and challenge the Malaysians public to take up the cudgels  on behalf of the dispossessed and  repressed section of society.  Now there is the IGPÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s suggestion a la Bush  [ Star 6 dec] that the International terrorists support Hindraf. This will make Bush, that inventor of the phantom weapons of mass destruction [WMD]wring  his hand in glee.  Blame t on Al Qaeda and all your problems are resolved.  Just point your  finger and the situation magically resolve itself. Where is the hard fact that support the IGPÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s preposterous suggestion. Did  he get any tip off from the CIA or the Interpol.  The police, notorious for their corruption dd[ endorsed by the BN]  and inefficiency has suddenly come up with these suggestions to prepare public opinion when the authority use the ISA to support the legitimate voice of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>INTINIMATION &#8211; CHARRGING HIDNRAF FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER:  THE Making of a Them and Us Culture in Malaysia.</p>
<p>Besides the question of the prosecutionÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s ability [which is doubted as nothing can come out of sheer fabrications] to prove beyond reasonable doubt that these 31 charged harboured the intention to murder,  most non-dumb Malaysians would dismiss this wild and unsubstantiated step of a  desperate BN who finds that the traditional methods are not sufficient to quell the boiling cauldron of discontent. The Bar Council demonstrations, BERSIH and Hindraf are not racial in nature .  It is a vociferous cry of damnation by the public of injustices after 50 years of merdeka </p>
<p>What would common law lawmakers around the world think of this ludicrous Ã¢â‚¬ËœInstant ChargeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢. The lawmakers from other common law jurisdictions would probably carefully assemble their situation, assemble the evidence and documents and after due consideration frame the charge.   This charge of attempted murder demonstrate BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s failing  and desperate and sad stance of containing the boiling cauldron of discontent that is rocking the contrary.  Does the AG not learn that the governrntal agencies will not be that pliant and echo the wishes of of the AG.  The Klang court throwing out the sedition charges makes this abundantly clear.  Yet this is not clear for the AG and yet again more of its resources are diverted to Hindraf in its process fo intimation bdy the filing of a judicial review.  What aboutt the files concerning offences against the public outstanding in the AG chambers. They are put on hold while the AG goes on a holy crusade to silence Malaysians.</p>
<p>The charge of attempted murder against the 31  Hindraf demonstrators is no more than the BN&#8217;s use of governmental resources  [intended fro the general public to harass them.  It is the crudest form of intimation. When the powers that be find that charging these demonstrators for unlawful assembly,  does not work. They talk of the ISA Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a perennial favorite instrument for repression of the Malaysians first practised by the British and now adopted gratefully by BN to intimate the public. Then there is talk of the Police investigating  the  possible sedition in blog postings [Sun 6 Dec].  There is then the laughable suggestion that international terrorist groups are supporting Hindraf..</p>
<p>  BUSH WRING HIS HAND WITH GLEE Ã¢â‚¬â€œD DDIARAQ WMP AND IRAN BOMB. SAME VEIN</p>
<p>Prolonging the dayÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s trial for 9 hours is so transparent a harassment and revulse all Malaysians</p>
<p>The instructions to harass must have come from very high up. While they cannot destroy the spirit of Hindraf, they use these procedures to punish them.  No allowing bail is just another instance.  Just imagine, the international free press will have a hey day in reporting this.</p>
<p>That the instructions to harass these Hindraf supporters must have come from the top.  Having Attorney-General Abdul Gani Patail 5o prosecute is so blatantly using the weight of the Chambers to punish. And the punishment are meted out administratively without a single shred of evidence tendered in court. Clearly the instruction must be to use all and every mean to harass including\ filing for a judicial review of he discharge of he three lawyers in Klang.</p>
<p>Do these people not know that this type of crude tactics only harden the resolve of the people.  History has shown that the will of the people can be suppressed but not destroyed.  More importantly, these developments lead to the polarisation of the people.  They can only be damning to the BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s chances in the next election.  When the results are out, they will learn what they have done.  ere is now a Them and Us Culture which developing exponentially in Malaysia.  Those who support hindraf belongs to the US camp and those who are speaking against free speech and the freedom of assembly  in the THEM camp.</p>
<p>We Malaysians not that dumb to see that those who are appointed to uphold justice in this country are exploited for a political reason and are mere pawn pieces in the punishment of accused who are guilty before they are properly tried.</p>
<p>In the past, the communists were blamed for all things wrong. Now this clutch blame device is no longer available, they blame it on the oppositions.  If the oppositions can orchestrate this country-wide boiling discontent, they will have no problem winning the next general election.  We Malaysians are not THAT DUMB.</p>
<p>Never in the history of Malaysia during election year has the ruling party thrown down the gauntlet and challenge the Malaysians public to take up the cudgels  on behalf of the dispossessed and  repressed section of society.  Now there is the IGPÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s suggestion a la Bush  [ Star 6 dec] that the International terrorists support Hindraf. This will make Bush, that inventor of the phantom weapons of mass destruction [WMD]wring  his hand in glee.  Blame t on Al Qaeda and all your problems are resolved.  Just point your  finger and the situation magically resolve itself. Where is the hard fact that support the IGPÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s preposterous suggestion. Did  he get any tip off from the CIA or the Interpol.  The police, notorious for their corruption dd[ endorsed by the BN]  and inefficiency has suddenly come up with these suggestions to prepare public opinion when the authority use the ISA to support the legitimate voice of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I agree with a writer here that the protestors should all file a suit against the government for whatever grounds that you can think of - failure to allow access to a place of worship, criminal intimidation, causing bodily harm, desecration of a place of worship, etc etc.&quot; GODFATHER


Before you file any lawsuit against the other party, there must first be a cause of action, then prima facie evidence of the the wrong committed e.g. breach of constitutional right or rights if it involves the Constitution, or unlawful use of force resulting in physical injuries.


&quot;These charges would probably result in a RM100 fine for each protestor, or a RM200 bail if any protestor wishes to contest the charge. No, they have to use a much more severe charge so that it becomes a non-bailable offence or an offence that requires really hefty bail amounts. That way, they keep the protestors behind bars...&quot;

The judge will need to rule as to the charges whether some of them are frivolous and vexatious and strike these out. Will the judge do so and strike the &#039;attempted murder&#039; charge out? I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I agree with a writer here that the protestors should all file a suit against the government for whatever grounds that you can think of &#8211; failure to allow access to a place of worship, criminal intimidation, causing bodily harm, desecration of a place of worship, etc etc.&#8221; GODFATHER</p>
<p>Before you file any lawsuit against the other party, there must first be a cause of action, then prima facie evidence of the the wrong committed e.g. breach of constitutional right or rights if it involves the Constitution, or unlawful use of force resulting in physical injuries.</p>
<p>&#8220;These charges would probably result in a RM100 fine for each protestor, or a RM200 bail if any protestor wishes to contest the charge. No, they have to use a much more severe charge so that it becomes a non-bailable offence or an offence that requires really hefty bail amounts. That way, they keep the protestors behind bars&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The judge will need to rule as to the charges whether some of them are frivolous and vexatious and strike these out. Will the judge do so and strike the &#8216;attempted murder&#8217; charge out? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: NOT DUMB MALAYSIAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NOT DUMB MALAYSIAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE MAKING OF A Ã¢â‚¬Å“THEM AND US CULTRUREÃ¢â‚¬Â IN MALAYSIA.

The charge of attempted murder against the26  hindraf demonstrators is no or no more than the BN&#039;s of government resources to harass them.

Prolonging the dayÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s trial for 9 hours is so transparent a harassment

The instructions to harass must have come from very high up. While they cannot destroy the spirit of Hindraf, they use these procedures to punish them.  No allowing bail is just another instance.  Just imagine, the international free press will have a hey day in reporting this.

That the instructions to harass these Hindraf supporters must have come from the top.  Having Attorney-General Abdul Gani Patail 5o prosecute is so blatantly using the weight of the Chambers to punish. And the punishment are meted out administratively without a single shred of evidence tendered in court. Clearly the instruction must be to use all and every mean to harass including\ filing for a judicial review of he discharge of he three lawyers in Klang.

Do these people not know that this type of crude tactics only harden the resolve of the people.  History has shown that the will of the people can be suppressed but not destroyed.  More importantly, these developments lead to the polarisation of the people.  They can only be damning to the BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s chances in the next election.  When the results are out, they will learn what they have done.  ere is now a Them and Us Culture which is developing exponentially in Malaysia.  Those who support hindraf belongs to the US camp and those who are speaking against free speech and the freedom of assembly.

We Malaysians not that dumb those who are appointed to uphold justice in this country are now lackeys in the punishment of accused who are guilty before they are properly tried.

In the past, the communists were blamed for all things wrong. Now this clutch blame device is no longer available, they blame it on the oppositions.  If the oppositions can orchestrate this country-wide boiling discontent, they will have no problem winning the next general election.
 

What&#039;s next?? Teh FRU swooping on a chuerg gathering on the ground that they were practising apostasy contrary to the tenets of an ISLAMIC COUNTRY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE MAKING OF A Ã¢â‚¬Å“THEM AND US CULTRUREÃ¢â‚¬Â IN MALAYSIA.</p>
<p>The charge of attempted murder against the26  hindraf demonstrators is no or no more than the BN&#8217;s of government resources to harass them.</p>
<p>Prolonging the dayÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s trial for 9 hours is so transparent a harassment</p>
<p>The instructions to harass must have come from very high up. While they cannot destroy the spirit of Hindraf, they use these procedures to punish them.  No allowing bail is just another instance.  Just imagine, the international free press will have a hey day in reporting this.</p>
<p>That the instructions to harass these Hindraf supporters must have come from the top.  Having Attorney-General Abdul Gani Patail 5o prosecute is so blatantly using the weight of the Chambers to punish. And the punishment are meted out administratively without a single shred of evidence tendered in court. Clearly the instruction must be to use all and every mean to harass including\ filing for a judicial review of he discharge of he three lawyers in Klang.</p>
<p>Do these people not know that this type of crude tactics only harden the resolve of the people.  History has shown that the will of the people can be suppressed but not destroyed.  More importantly, these developments lead to the polarisation of the people.  They can only be damning to the BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s chances in the next election.  When the results are out, they will learn what they have done.  ere is now a Them and Us Culture which is developing exponentially in Malaysia.  Those who support hindraf belongs to the US camp and those who are speaking against free speech and the freedom of assembly.</p>
<p>We Malaysians not that dumb those who are appointed to uphold justice in this country are now lackeys in the punishment of accused who are guilty before they are properly tried.</p>
<p>In the past, the communists were blamed for all things wrong. Now this clutch blame device is no longer available, they blame it on the oppositions.  If the oppositions can orchestrate this country-wide boiling discontent, they will have no problem winning the next general election.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next?? Teh FRU swooping on a chuerg gathering on the ground that they were practising apostasy contrary to the tenets of an ISLAMIC COUNTRY.</p>
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		<title>By: benny</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61111</link>
		<dc:creator>benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long time ago when i was abroad was very proud with my country.But with todays scenario wondering where this country goin to end with this malay supremacy attitude.Charging 26 of them under attempted murder is blatant power abuse.Wht abt the FRU shooting tear gas and water canon to the crowd in the temple premises?This gov is really testing the patience of the indians,MY VOTE WILL BE FOR OPPOSITIONS THIS ELECTION.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long time ago when i was abroad was very proud with my country.But with todays scenario wondering where this country goin to end with this malay supremacy attitude.Charging 26 of them under attempted murder is blatant power abuse.Wht abt the FRU shooting tear gas and water canon to the crowd in the temple premises?This gov is really testing the patience of the indians,MY VOTE WILL BE FOR OPPOSITIONS THIS ELECTION.</p>
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		<title>By: cheng on soo</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61105</link>
		<dc:creator>cheng on soo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just see, 26 persons (empty hand) pick up whatever stones inside the temple, throw at a polis man (well arm) standing among at least 200 FRU, Rela etc, may be 30 ft away. with intend to murder, (eh, why we use this way to murder lah! should have a better way to murder a person lah)
1. size of stones,
2. 26 persons, never trained to aim n throw stone before
3. that one polis man, probably, well arm, n well protected by shield n his  200 well arm colleagues.
Eh, I not clever enaf lah, confuse lah! why wan to murder a person this way lah ! maybe we cipta another feat for &quot;Guiness Book of Record&quot;. We all BOLEH mah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just see, 26 persons (empty hand) pick up whatever stones inside the temple, throw at a polis man (well arm) standing among at least 200 FRU, Rela etc, may be 30 ft away. with intend to murder, (eh, why we use this way to murder lah! should have a better way to murder a person lah)<br />
1. size of stones,<br />
2. 26 persons, never trained to aim n throw stone before<br />
3. that one polis man, probably, well arm, n well protected by shield n his  200 well arm colleagues.<br />
Eh, I not clever enaf lah, confuse lah! why wan to murder a person this way lah ! maybe we cipta another feat for &#8220;Guiness Book of Record&#8221;. We all BOLEH mah!</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Chindian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61103</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Chindian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is all this happening? I am ashamed to say that our court is so prejudiced. Instead of sending those innocent people who want justice peacefully, what about rapists and real crime committers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is all this happening? I am ashamed to say that our court is so prejudiced. Instead of sending those innocent people who want justice peacefully, what about rapists and real crime committers?</p>
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		<title>By: cheng on soo</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61102</link>
		<dc:creator>cheng on soo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hei, problem lah! 500,000 people, 20 years, food n accomaodation n jaga them properly, berapa lah, Ah.. 1 day 1 people, RM30, then RM30 X 365 X 20 X 500,000 = RM 109,500 million (kurang kurang lah),  like that no money for &#039;mega project lah&#039; !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hei, problem lah! 500,000 people, 20 years, food n accomaodation n jaga them properly, berapa lah, Ah.. 1 day 1 people, RM30, then RM30 X 365 X 20 X 500,000 = RM 109,500 million (kurang kurang lah),  like that no money for &#8216;mega project lah&#8217; !</p>
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		<title>By: taxpayer</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61099</link>
		<dc:creator>taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26 people attempted to murder 1 person. What about the 300 to 400 FRU personels attempted to kill the thousands locked up in the temple compound?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26 people attempted to murder 1 person. What about the 300 to 400 FRU personels attempted to kill the thousands locked up in the temple compound?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Quah</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61092</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Quah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 07:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the different is then again...the Mongalia case defender is Malay...while the Hindraf is Indian...so kena tunjuk Ketuanan Melayu for you folk out there la...Cabar Malays, give you 20 yrs sentences to jail...deal or no deal...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the different is then again&#8230;the Mongalia case defender is Malay&#8230;while the Hindraf is Indian&#8230;so kena tunjuk Ketuanan Melayu for you folk out there la&#8230;Cabar Malays, give you 20 yrs sentences to jail&#8230;deal or no deal&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61080</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now it appears that the court has denied bail &quot;due to the severity of the charges&quot; involved.  It is very clear that this is the objective of the government from the outset.  It sends a simple message to you and I:  You can protest all you want, but we can also charge you with some severe crimes which are enough to deny you bail.  In a first world country, there will be huge public outcry if the courts can&#039;t see through the frivolity of the government charges.  In Bolehland, where the police, the courts, the prosecution and the mainstream media are all extensions of the government, we protest at our own risks.  We protest and they trump up the charges and there is literally nothing that we can do.

The only way now is for 500,000 of us to be prepared to go to jail for trumped-up charges and see if there are enough jails to hold us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now it appears that the court has denied bail &#8220;due to the severity of the charges&#8221; involved.  It is very clear that this is the objective of the government from the outset.  It sends a simple message to you and I:  You can protest all you want, but we can also charge you with some severe crimes which are enough to deny you bail.  In a first world country, there will be huge public outcry if the courts can&#8217;t see through the frivolity of the government charges.  In Bolehland, where the police, the courts, the prosecution and the mainstream media are all extensions of the government, we protest at our own risks.  We protest and they trump up the charges and there is literally nothing that we can do.</p>
<p>The only way now is for 500,000 of us to be prepared to go to jail for trumped-up charges and see if there are enough jails to hold us.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61051</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a writer here that the protestors should all file a suit against the government for whatever grounds that you can think of - failure to allow access to a place of worship, criminal intimidation, causing bodily harm, desecration of a place of worship, etc etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a writer here that the protestors should all file a suit against the government for whatever grounds that you can think of &#8211; failure to allow access to a place of worship, criminal intimidation, causing bodily harm, desecration of a place of worship, etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61049</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is clearly a case of intimidation and selective prosecution.  They can&#039;t charge the hardcore protestors with illegal assembly or causing public mischief or failing to disperse in accordance with police instructions.  These charges would probably result in a RM100 fine for each protestor, or a RM200 bail if any protestor wishes to contest the charge.  No, they have to use a much more severe charge so that it becomes a non-bailable offence or an offence that requires really hefty bail amounts.  That way, they keep the protestors behind bars even in the knowledge that the prosecution can never prove the charges against the protestors.

The AG is taking  a personal interest because this has shaken the entire foundation of UMNO.  The Altantuya case is just a minor irritant that will eventually go away with shoddy prosecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is clearly a case of intimidation and selective prosecution.  They can&#8217;t charge the hardcore protestors with illegal assembly or causing public mischief or failing to disperse in accordance with police instructions.  These charges would probably result in a RM100 fine for each protestor, or a RM200 bail if any protestor wishes to contest the charge.  No, they have to use a much more severe charge so that it becomes a non-bailable offence or an offence that requires really hefty bail amounts.  That way, they keep the protestors behind bars even in the knowledge that the prosecution can never prove the charges against the protestors.</p>
<p>The AG is taking  a personal interest because this has shaken the entire foundation of UMNO.  The Altantuya case is just a minor irritant that will eventually go away with shoddy prosecution.</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61040</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We now have father and son (A-G Gani Patail&#039;s son in The Hague)team, besides the FIL and SIL team. Malaysia boleh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now have father and son (A-G Gani Patail&#8217;s son in The Hague)team, besides the FIL and SIL team. Malaysia boleh.</p>
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		<title>By: stk</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61009</link>
		<dc:creator>stk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This AG joker was stripped naked at the ICJ over the Batu Putih by the Singaporeans.Looks like typical bolehland attitude ,never bother to do research and take short cut the easy way out.By the way what is his son doing in the Hague ?Free holiday?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This AG joker was stripped naked at the ICJ over the Batu Putih by the Singaporeans.Looks like typical bolehland attitude ,never bother to do research and take short cut the easy way out.By the way what is his son doing in the Hague ?Free holiday?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimm</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/05/why-ag-appeared-for-charging-26-hindraf-supporters-but-did-not-appear-for-altantunya-murder-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-61008</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst that oneself can find from people that seated on high authority that are actually &#039;puppet&#039; and lifeless soul. yet can pretend that he praying the Almighty like many does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst that oneself can find from people that seated on high authority that are actually &#8216;puppet&#8217; and lifeless soul. yet can pretend that he praying the Almighty like many does.</p>
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