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	<title>Comments on: Hindraf demo &#8211; PM should heed &#8220;cry of desperation&#8221; of Malaysian Indians at marginalisation</title>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-3/#comment-60933</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:):):)  Yep the foggers are coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:):):)  Yep the foggers are coming!</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-3/#comment-60918</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently someone let the dogs out!</description>
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		<title>By: rakyatmiskin</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-3/#comment-60765</link>
		<dc:creator>rakyatmiskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmm....., I have been an observer of this site and frankly I enjoy readings of DarkHorse, Undergrad2, Godfather, and few others as well....I seriously think everyone should leave &quot;Limkampuuuut&quot; alone :) he is entitled to his opinion too even if it means in every negative way :) let him speak....and you speak too if you guys dont like him, just dont reply to his comments. simple na :) by the WHY Godamn Singh :D
keep on writing I love reading them, I normally save it on my PC and read them later no time na :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm&#8230;.., I have been an observer of this site and frankly I enjoy readings of DarkHorse, Undergrad2, Godfather, and few others as well&#8230;.I seriously think everyone should leave &#8220;Limkampuuuut&#8221; alone :) he is entitled to his opinion too even if it means in every negative way :) let him speak&#8230;.and you speak too if you guys dont like him, just dont reply to his comments. simple na :) by the WHY Godamn Singh :D<br />
keep on writing I love reading them, I normally save it on my PC and read them later no time na :(</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-3/#comment-60657</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time to leave him alone, Horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time to leave him alone, Horse.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkHorse</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-3/#comment-60567</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkHorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great lesson to learn! 

Freedom of speech does not give anyone the right to bash the other merely for giving his opinion. Right is not might.

Never bash our Jeffrey. Never bash the likes of Lee Wang Yen who as  a Malaysian scholar studying at the world&#039;s second best University according to THES, is a fine example of a Malaysian Chinese who despite policies like the NEP have done us proud! They are not examples of &quot;hollow sophistication&quot; to be made use of to feed anybody&#039;s ego.

We hope you go away a better human being, humbled in the thought that in a civil society, it pays to be civil. Something our BN MPs need to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great lesson to learn! </p>
<p>Freedom of speech does not give anyone the right to bash the other merely for giving his opinion. Right is not might.</p>
<p>Never bash our Jeffrey. Never bash the likes of Lee Wang Yen who as  a Malaysian scholar studying at the world&#8217;s second best University according to THES, is a fine example of a Malaysian Chinese who despite policies like the NEP have done us proud! They are not examples of &#8220;hollow sophistication&#8221; to be made use of to feed anybody&#8217;s ego.</p>
<p>We hope you go away a better human being, humbled in the thought that in a civil society, it pays to be civil. Something our BN MPs need to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-3/#comment-60546</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ã¢â‚¬Å“You are a spineless bastardÃ¢â‚¬Â 
DarkHorse has accused me of saying the above.  I did not use the word bastard, never.  Out of respect for Kit, I will not retaliate further.  Let others who have read this blog in totality form their own opinion. I don&#039;t have all the time go through what others, in particular DarkHorse, Godamn Singh and Undergrad2 have said of me.  From now on, let this blog be their private domain.  Bye bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“You are a spineless bastardÃ¢â‚¬Â<br />
DarkHorse has accused me of saying the above.  I did not use the word bastard, never.  Out of respect for Kit, I will not retaliate further.  Let others who have read this blog in totality form their own opinion. I don&#8217;t have all the time go through what others, in particular DarkHorse, Godamn Singh and Undergrad2 have said of me.  From now on, let this blog be their private domain.  Bye bye.</p>
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		<title>By: sotong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-3/#comment-60484</link>
		<dc:creator>sotong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are beginning to see real and powerful characters in this blog.

This is interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are beginning to see real and powerful characters in this blog.</p>
<p>This is interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-3/#comment-60474</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aiyoo grrreat learned kids, hurling eggs at each other - ganging up and batu api aplenty! I&#039;ve been away and plenty to read and wow, am learning new words! 

Christmas is in the air, and new year just around the corner so let&#039;s keep the peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aiyoo grrreat learned kids, hurling eggs at each other &#8211; ganging up and batu api aplenty! I&#8217;ve been away and plenty to read and wow, am learning new words! </p>
<p>Christmas is in the air, and new year just around the corner so let&#8217;s keep the peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-2/#comment-60454</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that those warring parties should stop hijacking the threads in this blog for airing personal insults.  The war is out there, and you guys are throwing eggs at each other.  Don&#039;t really know what else to say except to sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree that those warring parties should stop hijacking the threads in this blog for airing personal insults.  The war is out there, and you guys are throwing eggs at each other.  Don&#8217;t really know what else to say except to sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-2/#comment-60408</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After these demonstrations, MALAYSIA is now indeed in the international limelight. This time around, Malaysia can really claim that &quot;MALAYSIA BENAR-BENAR BOLEH!!&quot; - shameful, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After these demonstrations, MALAYSIA is now indeed in the international limelight. This time around, Malaysia can really claim that &#8220;MALAYSIA BENAR-BENAR BOLEH!!&#8221; &#8211; shameful, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkHorse</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-2/#comment-60398</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkHorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;KitÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s reminder is for ALL bloger&quot; limkampout

Yeah, you wish! Kit chose to do so as part of his reply to your complaint. What does that tell posters?? You are crude and rude. You don&#039;t expect Kit to be like you, do you? 

It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out to whom that advice was directed. You, limkampout are the only poster here who fits the description, calling other posters names like &quot;moron&quot;, &quot;stupid&quot;, &quot;spineless&quot; to name but a few. 

Freedom of speech to you means the freedom to bash others for not sharing your opinion or ignoring your comments, your purported &quot;ability to hold more than three variable in your head&quot; - to use your own words. LOL. You bashed Jeffrey and Lee Wang Yeng and there are posters here who would do the same to you if you continue with your tirade.

You asked what&#039;s wrong with labeling others &quot;stupid&quot; &quot;moron&quot; &quot;spineless&quot; and threatening to belittle posters with derogatory comments etc?? Which hole did you crawl from?

In case you miss out what Goddam Singh said about you  on another thread, here let me cut and paste so you could read it at your convenience and reflect:

///Obviously our limkampuiiiiiet has chosen to ignore a polite and diplomatic reminder  by Kit to him in reply to his enquiry as to why his post has been deleted Ã¢â‚¬â€œ as follows:


[Ã¢â‚¬Å“Can I also urge all posters to respect all other posters and visitors by refraining from using langauge which are crude, vulgar and offensive. - Kit]

He has just added another one-liner to the string of one-liners to posters:

Ã¢â‚¬Å“You are a spineless bastardÃ¢â‚¬Â 

Here are the rest of his  Ã¢â‚¬Å“quotable quotesÃ¢â‚¬Â littered all over the threads:

Ã¢â‚¬Å“I think the more you write, the more you show your stupidityÃ¢â‚¬Â 

Ã¢â‚¬Å“We are what we repeatedly do. it is confirmed that you are more than stupidÃ¢â‚¬Â 

Ã¢â‚¬Å“I suggest you go for grade one english class first before you come hereÃ¢â‚¬Â to 

Ã¢â‚¬Å“Colonel my foot. You are not even qualified to be private.Ã¢â‚¬Â

We would like to know what does it take for him to acknowledge the need to observe civility in the exchanges since a polite reminder from the blog owner has failed.///

So stop abusing the opportunity afforded to posters by YB Kit who has worked hard to provide the platform. We are here to discuss serious issues. We are not here to show how smart we are and who are not. We disagree if we have to but without the name calling. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;KitÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s reminder is for ALL bloger&#8221; limkampout</p>
<p>Yeah, you wish! Kit chose to do so as part of his reply to your complaint. What does that tell posters?? You are crude and rude. You don&#8217;t expect Kit to be like you, do you? </p>
<p>It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out to whom that advice was directed. You, limkampout are the only poster here who fits the description, calling other posters names like &#8220;moron&#8221;, &#8220;stupid&#8221;, &#8220;spineless&#8221; to name but a few. </p>
<p>Freedom of speech to you means the freedom to bash others for not sharing your opinion or ignoring your comments, your purported &#8220;ability to hold more than three variable in your head&#8221; &#8211; to use your own words. LOL. You bashed Jeffrey and Lee Wang Yeng and there are posters here who would do the same to you if you continue with your tirade.</p>
<p>You asked what&#8217;s wrong with labeling others &#8220;stupid&#8221; &#8220;moron&#8221; &#8220;spineless&#8221; and threatening to belittle posters with derogatory comments etc?? Which hole did you crawl from?</p>
<p>In case you miss out what Goddam Singh said about you  on another thread, here let me cut and paste so you could read it at your convenience and reflect:</p>
<p>///Obviously our limkampuiiiiiet has chosen to ignore a polite and diplomatic reminder  by Kit to him in reply to his enquiry as to why his post has been deleted Ã¢â‚¬â€œ as follows:</p>
<p>[Ã¢â‚¬Å“Can I also urge all posters to respect all other posters and visitors by refraining from using langauge which are crude, vulgar and offensive. - Kit]</p>
<p>He has just added another one-liner to the string of one-liners to posters:</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“You are a spineless bastardÃ¢â‚¬Â </p>
<p>Here are the rest of his  Ã¢â‚¬Å“quotable quotesÃ¢â‚¬Â littered all over the threads:</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“I think the more you write, the more you show your stupidityÃ¢â‚¬Â </p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“We are what we repeatedly do. it is confirmed that you are more than stupidÃ¢â‚¬Â </p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“I suggest you go for grade one english class first before you come hereÃ¢â‚¬Â to </p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“Colonel my foot. You are not even qualified to be private.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>We would like to know what does it take for him to acknowledge the need to observe civility in the exchanges since a polite reminder from the blog owner has failed.///</p>
<p>So stop abusing the opportunity afforded to posters by YB Kit who has worked hard to provide the platform. We are here to discuss serious issues. We are not here to show how smart we are and who are not. We disagree if we have to but without the name calling.</p>
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		<title>By: lakshy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-2/#comment-60391</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha, immature maybe, but I dont think treacherous would describe him.  He pings and he pongs.

And if he is an undergraduate, he should not be spending much of his time here.  His priority should be to do well in his exams and graduate.  Then find decent work, and contribute to society.  But for now, study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha, immature maybe, but I dont think treacherous would describe him.  He pings and he pongs.</p>
<p>And if he is an undergraduate, he should not be spending much of his time here.  His priority should be to do well in his exams and graduate.  Then find decent work, and contribute to society.  But for now, study.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-2/#comment-60368</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KitÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s reminder is for ALL blogers.  My posting that got deleted was never on those words I used on you all. It was my indiscretion on word choice on issues of the day.  You people should also look at how you attacked me simply because I am prepared to stand up against half-baked self centred morons.  If not for the respect I cherish for this blog, I would have used even stronger terms on people like Godamn Singh and DarkHorse.  As for Undergrad2, let me use another word on you. You are about the most treacherous person I ever met in this blog in which on amount of medication can ever cure you.

&lt;strong&gt;[Let us agree to disagree agreeably. It pains everyone to read the  prolonged and protracted exchange of invectives and name-calling. Lets call a halt. Otherwise, posters will have to be put on the moderator list (2)  which, as mentioned elsewhere, may take 24 - 48 hours to clear because of time constraints. Can we move on? - Kit]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KitÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s reminder is for ALL blogers.  My posting that got deleted was never on those words I used on you all. It was my indiscretion on word choice on issues of the day.  You people should also look at how you attacked me simply because I am prepared to stand up against half-baked self centred morons.  If not for the respect I cherish for this blog, I would have used even stronger terms on people like Godamn Singh and DarkHorse.  As for Undergrad2, let me use another word on you. You are about the most treacherous person I ever met in this blog in which on amount of medication can ever cure you.</p>
<p><strong>[Let us agree to disagree agreeably. It pains everyone to read the  prolonged and protracted exchange of invectives and name-calling. Lets call a halt. Otherwise, posters will have to be put on the moderator list (2)  which, as mentioned elsewhere, may take 24 - 48 hours to clear because of time constraints. Can we move on? - Kit]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-2/#comment-60360</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goddamn Singh,

It is too much to expect a Cambridge wannabe  from Kg. Attap (a red light district) to understand the polite reminder by Kit (above) in reply to his inquiry as to why his post has been deleted.

After all he&#039;s always referring to the &quot;epitome of...&quot; something or other. He keeps referring to the &quot;epitome of egoism&quot; without understanding the difference between &quot;egoism&quot; and &quot;egotism&quot;  and yet he says posters have poor control of English and that he can write better. sheeesh....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goddamn Singh,</p>
<p>It is too much to expect a Cambridge wannabe  from Kg. Attap (a red light district) to understand the polite reminder by Kit (above) in reply to his inquiry as to why his post has been deleted.</p>
<p>After all he&#8217;s always referring to the &#8220;epitome of&#8230;&#8221; something or other. He keeps referring to the &#8220;epitome of egoism&#8221; without understanding the difference between &#8220;egoism&#8221; and &#8220;egotism&#8221;  and yet he says posters have poor control of English and that he can write better. sheeesh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/12/02/hindraf-demo-pm-should-heed-cry-of-desperation-of-malaysian-indians-at-marginalisation/comment-page-2/#comment-60348</link>
		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DarkHorse said: I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think we need a Cambridge scholar like Lee Wang Yen to explain to you the difference between Ã¢â‚¬Å“illegalÃ¢â‚¬Â and Ã¢â‚¬Å“morally wrongÃ¢â‚¬Â or Ã¢â‚¬Å“unconscionableÃ¢â‚¬Â. His analogy of the bible smuggling priest is a good enough example.

Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen.  Can you not use your puny head to think a bit? Look, the world is not made different by those ivory tower brats.  It is made different by people in HINDRAF.  Got it?  One more thing may be I need to remind an ignorant soul like you is that the world has progressed for hundreds of years without Phd.  So stop blindly worshiping all those brats whose only gift is probably just know how to write and argue but in term of practical solution, they have nothing to offer.  

Tell me again the purpose of laboriously trying to explain the concept of being morally right but legally wrong.  May be I should widen the debate further: How about doing the right thing wrong? What about doing the wrong things right? I hope it is not too difficult for you. Who need these polemics within the context of HINDRAF and BERSIH demonstrations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DarkHorse said: I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think we need a Cambridge scholar like Lee Wang Yen to explain to you the difference between Ã¢â‚¬Å“illegalÃ¢â‚¬Â and Ã¢â‚¬Å“morally wrongÃ¢â‚¬Â or Ã¢â‚¬Å“unconscionableÃ¢â‚¬Â. His analogy of the bible smuggling priest is a good enough example.</p>
<p>Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen, Lee Wang Yen.  Can you not use your puny head to think a bit? Look, the world is not made different by those ivory tower brats.  It is made different by people in HINDRAF.  Got it?  One more thing may be I need to remind an ignorant soul like you is that the world has progressed for hundreds of years without Phd.  So stop blindly worshiping all those brats whose only gift is probably just know how to write and argue but in term of practical solution, they have nothing to offer.  </p>
<p>Tell me again the purpose of laboriously trying to explain the concept of being morally right but legally wrong.  May be I should widen the debate further: How about doing the right thing wrong? What about doing the wrong things right? I hope it is not too difficult for you. Who need these polemics within the context of HINDRAF and BERSIH demonstrations?</p>
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		<title>By: limkamput</title>
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		<dc:creator>limkamput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ã¢â‚¬Å“The Malays have lost this country by default, period. Ã¢â‚¬Â

It is statements like this that gets Kit in trouble.  Undergrad2

Typical of your spineless character! If you want to debate with me, please come directly to me.  There is no need to involve Sdr Kit. What is the problem with my statement? Have you not just heard that the Melaka CM has called or revocation of citizenship of those who want to take the case abroad?  Please have some conviction of what you want to say.  Otherwise my characterisation of you been intellectually corrupted in my earlier posting was not farfetched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“The Malays have lost this country by default, period. Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>It is statements like this that gets Kit in trouble.  Undergrad2</p>
<p>Typical of your spineless character! If you want to debate with me, please come directly to me.  There is no need to involve Sdr Kit. What is the problem with my statement? Have you not just heard that the Melaka CM has called or revocation of citizenship of those who want to take the case abroad?  Please have some conviction of what you want to say.  Otherwise my characterisation of you been intellectually corrupted in my earlier posting was not farfetched.</p>
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		<title>By: Godamn Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godamn Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>limkampuuuuiet!

Take note Kit&#039;s reply to your objection:

&quot;Can I also urge all posters to respect all other posters and visitors by refraining from using langauge which are crude, vulgar and offensive. - Kit]&quot;

Kit is always polite and diplomatic in the use of the English language. I hope the message is not lost on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>limkampuuuuiet!</p>
<p>Take note Kit&#8217;s reply to your objection:</p>
<p>&#8220;Can I also urge all posters to respect all other posters and visitors by refraining from using langauge which are crude, vulgar and offensive. &#8211; Kit]&#8221;</p>
<p>Kit is always polite and diplomatic in the use of the English language. I hope the message is not lost on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Saint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Undergrad2 - I agreed that the term Ã¢â‚¬Å“ethnic cleansingÃ¢â‚¬Â was wrong. It did not happen in Malaysia, but there is one or two regrettable instances that the government does not want to investigate and make public the actual story. If somebody, Ã¢â‚¬Å“here HindrafÃ¢â‚¬Â wants those cases to be investigated then calling them Ã¢â‚¬Å“ethnic cleansingÃ¢â‚¬Â is putting the onus on the government to proof it did not happen. Here again the government will keep on harping that Ã¢â‚¬Å“ethnic cleansingÃ¢â‚¬Â did not happen (which is very true); but will not take steps to investigate and make a report as it will not be good to the BN government. So Hindraf has placed the BN government in an uncomfortable position. This is a bad publicity stun by Hindraf; but then BN is also not a fair player either. Thanks for the comment for I should have been clearer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Undergrad2 &#8211; I agreed that the term Ã¢â‚¬Å“ethnic cleansingÃ¢â‚¬Â was wrong. It did not happen in Malaysia, but there is one or two regrettable instances that the government does not want to investigate and make public the actual story. If somebody, Ã¢â‚¬Å“here HindrafÃ¢â‚¬Â wants those cases to be investigated then calling them Ã¢â‚¬Å“ethnic cleansingÃ¢â‚¬Â is putting the onus on the government to proof it did not happen. Here again the government will keep on harping that Ã¢â‚¬Å“ethnic cleansingÃ¢â‚¬Â did not happen (which is very true); but will not take steps to investigate and make a report as it will not be good to the BN government. So Hindraf has placed the BN government in an uncomfortable position. This is a bad publicity stun by Hindraf; but then BN is also not a fair player either. Thanks for the comment for I should have been clearer.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkHorse</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkHorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we need a Cambridge scholar like Lee Wang Yen to explain to you the difference between &quot;illegal&quot; and &quot;morally wrong&quot; or &quot;unconscionable&quot;. His analogy of the bible smuggling priest is a good enough example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we need a Cambridge scholar like Lee Wang Yen to explain to you the difference between &#8220;illegal&#8221; and &#8220;morally wrong&#8221; or &#8220;unconscionable&#8221;. His analogy of the bible smuggling priest is a good enough example.</p>
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