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		<title>By: pkrisnin</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58881</link>
		<dc:creator>pkrisnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like http://wengsan.blogspot.com is being block by tm net, can anyone access the web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like <a href="http://wengsan.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://wengsan.blogspot.com</a> is being block by tm net, can anyone access the web</p>
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		<title>By: lakshy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58831</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to Cyclops case by the way ah?  Close one eye, got no case ah?  All the requesting customs to close one eye and then kicking up a fuss because he did not get the seized Mercedes Benz of his choice so that he had a personal vendetta against the Customs dept?

Semua sudah settle ya?  Baik lah.  We see what happens in the next election.  You nak lari mana YB Cyclops?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to Cyclops case by the way ah?  Close one eye, got no case ah?  All the requesting customs to close one eye and then kicking up a fuss because he did not get the seized Mercedes Benz of his choice so that he had a personal vendetta against the Customs dept?</p>
<p>Semua sudah settle ya?  Baik lah.  We see what happens in the next election.  You nak lari mana YB Cyclops?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58829</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undergrad2,

You know lah, Loyar Buruk. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undergrad2,</p>
<p>You know lah, Loyar Buruk. :)</p>
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		<title>By: budak</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58776</link>
		<dc:creator>budak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>madmix, you&#039;re right!

who care abt the riches; if everyone have a proper meal, job and fair treatment in the country..! 

Furthermore he&#039;s working for the RAKYAT not for the rich..! Can anyone ask this [deleted] to shut up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>madmix, you&#8217;re right!</p>
<p>who care abt the riches; if everyone have a proper meal, job and fair treatment in the country..! </p>
<p>Furthermore he&#8217;s working for the RAKYAT not for the rich..! Can anyone ask this [deleted] to shut up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: madmix</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58775</link>
		<dc:creator>madmix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MP JASIN SAID:
Other backbenchers also raised the issue of the rally, including Datuk Mohd Said Yusof (BN-Jasin).

Mohd Said said the Malays were not making a big fuss when it was reported that Chinese and Indians were among the richest in the country.

&quot;We don&#039;t demonstrate over the lack of Malays in the list of richest people in Malaysia.&quot;

If you have severe difficulties putting food on the table, what does it matter if one of your own race is Ananada Krishnan or Lim Kok Thay?? Mohd Said is sick in the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP JASIN SAID:<br />
Other backbenchers also raised the issue of the rally, including Datuk Mohd Said Yusof (BN-Jasin).</p>
<p>Mohd Said said the Malays were not making a big fuss when it was reported that Chinese and Indians were among the richest in the country.</p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t demonstrate over the lack of Malays in the list of richest people in Malaysia.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you have severe difficulties putting food on the table, what does it matter if one of your own race is Ananada Krishnan or Lim Kok Thay?? Mohd Said is sick in the head.</p>
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		<title>By: mendela</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58772</link>
		<dc:creator>mendela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be more effective if KJ portraits were displayed instead.

Remember KJ was [deleted] &quot;brave&quot; in leading the protestors to condeme the USA and Ms. Rice&#039;s visit not long ago near KLCC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be more effective if KJ portraits were displayed instead.</p>
<p>Remember KJ was [deleted] &#8220;brave&#8221; in leading the protestors to condeme the USA and Ms. Rice&#8217;s visit not long ago near KLCC?</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58765</link>
		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had the Hindraf protestors held up portraits of AAB and chant slogans in support of the NEP, you can bet that the FRU would lay a red carpet for them to walk on all the way to the British Embassy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had the Hindraf protestors held up portraits of AAB and chant slogans in support of the NEP, you can bet that the FRU would lay a red carpet for them to walk on all the way to the British Embassy</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58757</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey QC,

Welcome back! Readers here thought we lost the blog&#039;s only  credible  legal analyst and Chief Legal Correspondent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey QC,</p>
<p>Welcome back! Readers here thought we lost the blog&#8217;s only  credible  legal analyst and Chief Legal Correspondent.</p>
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		<title>By: mendela</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58754</link>
		<dc:creator>mendela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kantanboy,
Translation is not needed at all. That Japanese media reported all real facts and real figures which we all aledi knew.

It is a big shame and silly that a Japanese journalist can make accurate accounts to the up-risings and yet our so-called main-stream media were just reporting sh*ts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kantanboy,<br />
Translation is not needed at all. That Japanese media reported all real facts and real figures which we all aledi knew.</p>
<p>It is a big shame and silly that a Japanese journalist can make accurate accounts to the up-risings and yet our so-called main-stream media were just reporting sh*ts.</p>
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		<title>By: boh-liao</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58752</link>
		<dc:creator>boh-liao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lakshy wrote: &quot;Taken from Harakah. In order to get rid of the Tunku politically, some criminal elements and over ambitious leaders in Umno orchestrated the bloody May 13 Massacre which killed a few hundred Malaysians, maimed a few hundred more other Malaysians, burned down a few hundred shophouses and homes and looted some of them and burned scores of cars and other vehicles. All crimes against humanity.&quot;

So, will history repeat itself, i.e., another bloody event, if current over ambitious leaders in Umno wish to get rid of AAB and his SIL?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakshy wrote: &#8220;Taken from Harakah. In order to get rid of the Tunku politically, some criminal elements and over ambitious leaders in Umno orchestrated the bloody May 13 Massacre which killed a few hundred Malaysians, maimed a few hundred more other Malaysians, burned down a few hundred shophouses and homes and looted some of them and burned scores of cars and other vehicles. All crimes against humanity.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, will history repeat itself, i.e., another bloody event, if current over ambitious leaders in Umno wish to get rid of AAB and his SIL?</p>
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		<title>By: lakshy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58751</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like from what DPM is saying, he wants to do what the Bush&#039;s are doing.  What Bush senior could not get done, Bush Jnr is doing.  So what Tun Razak started, DPM is completing.  After weakening the Chinese in 1969, DPM wants to do a Bush and finish off the Indians!

These are the types of politicians we have now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like from what DPM is saying, he wants to do what the Bush&#8217;s are doing.  What Bush senior could not get done, Bush Jnr is doing.  So what Tun Razak started, DPM is completing.  After weakening the Chinese in 1969, DPM wants to do a Bush and finish off the Indians!</p>
<p>These are the types of politicians we have now!</p>
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		<title>By: mendela</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58750</link>
		<dc:creator>mendela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kantanboy,
That Japanese media reported all facts and real figures that we all knew. Translation is not needed.

This is a very silly world, a foreign journalist can make accurate accounts on the up-risings and yet our domestic &quot;main-stream&quot; media are reporting nothing but shits!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kantanboy,<br />
That Japanese media reported all facts and real figures that we all knew. Translation is not needed.</p>
<p>This is a very silly world, a foreign journalist can make accurate accounts on the up-risings and yet our domestic &#8220;main-stream&#8221; media are reporting nothing but shits!</p>
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		<title>By: lakshy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58749</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you had listened to the Al Jazeera interview, you would know that the interviewer kept saying the crowd was peaceful.  Why use force on a  peaceful crowd?  That was the statement that the interviewer made.

So whatever excuses Devamoney gives now, is just that.  Excuses to cover his faus pax in distancing him from &quot;that type of people&quot;.  All the best Devamoney and gang!   You can lie all you want now.  But what you have said is in the net for all to hear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had listened to the Al Jazeera interview, you would know that the interviewer kept saying the crowd was peaceful.  Why use force on a  peaceful crowd?  That was the statement that the interviewer made.</p>
<p>So whatever excuses Devamoney gives now, is just that.  Excuses to cover his faus pax in distancing him from &#8220;that type of people&#8221;.  All the best Devamoney and gang!   You can lie all you want now.  But what you have said is in the net for all to hear!</p>
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		<title>By: budak</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58745</link>
		<dc:creator>budak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>harrisonbinhansome, anjua nothing 1...???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>harrisonbinhansome, anjua nothing 1&#8230;???</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58741</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a rock was the Al Jazeera interview and the hard place was what Devamany said in Parliament, then Devamany is better off sticking to his latter position stated in Parliament. 

For true or otherwise, Devamany already clarified that Ã¢â‚¬Å“Al Jazeera did not allow me to finish my interviewÃ¢â‚¬Â and he was speaking on a mistaken impression initially conveyed to him that the Ã¢â‚¬Å“crowd was unruly and violentÃ¢â‚¬Â. As to what he said Parliament he could not twist out of that because it would have been recorded in the Hansard.

NazriÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s criticisms of DevamanyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s remarks are based on the concept of the Whip Ã¢â‚¬â€œ ie party discipline imposed on government MPs to follow the party line and not speak against his party or the government in which that party is part of and represented. 

Devamany is likely aware of possible repercussions and has made the calculations.

His role model could be Teluk Kemang MP Sothinathan who questioned the governmentÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s to de-recognise medical degrees from Crimea State Medical University in which the majority of Malaysian students were Malaysian Indians and was suspended for 3 months. 

Once in a while it is calculated expedience to score some political points to show that one is willing Ã¢â‚¬â€œ unlike the other political enunchs - to fight or speak up for the legitimate grievances of the community one represents and not just enjoy the patronage of the position. 

Why, SothinathanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s offence against Party Discipline was even graver for he was not just an MP as Devamany is but a Deputy Minister of Natural Resources and Environment speaking against the government of which he is a minister.

Today, after the suspension, all is forgotten as long as he Ã¢â‚¬Å“balancesÃ¢â‚¬Â his rhetoric with, for example,  challenges to Female Opposition member for a fist-fight to the amusement of his coalition&#039;s comrades! :)

It is a question of how one balances or juggle between commitment to BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s interest on one hand and a charade of oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s communityÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s interest on the other Ã¢â‚¬â€œ that is the real rock and the hard place - how to make occasional snippets against the hand that feeds you but just so to remind and prove to oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s constituency oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s representativeness of its interest whilst all the while acting this out to serve the ultimate end of shoring up BN&#039;s pretensions in being a multiracial power sharing coalition taking care of all races upon which its acclaimed political legitimacy reposes!

Devamany has also calculated that when any motion is raised by his coalition cohorts to discipline him in Parliament, he can depend on he who criticized him for being a hypocrite earlier would also find himself to be between a rock and a hard place of having, on principle, to defend and speak up for him, as he last did in SothinathanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s case. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a rock was the Al Jazeera interview and the hard place was what Devamany said in Parliament, then Devamany is better off sticking to his latter position stated in Parliament. </p>
<p>For true or otherwise, Devamany already clarified that Ã¢â‚¬Å“Al Jazeera did not allow me to finish my interviewÃ¢â‚¬Â and he was speaking on a mistaken impression initially conveyed to him that the Ã¢â‚¬Å“crowd was unruly and violentÃ¢â‚¬Â. As to what he said Parliament he could not twist out of that because it would have been recorded in the Hansard.</p>
<p>NazriÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s criticisms of DevamanyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s remarks are based on the concept of the Whip Ã¢â‚¬â€œ ie party discipline imposed on government MPs to follow the party line and not speak against his party or the government in which that party is part of and represented. </p>
<p>Devamany is likely aware of possible repercussions and has made the calculations.</p>
<p>His role model could be Teluk Kemang MP Sothinathan who questioned the governmentÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s to de-recognise medical degrees from Crimea State Medical University in which the majority of Malaysian students were Malaysian Indians and was suspended for 3 months. </p>
<p>Once in a while it is calculated expedience to score some political points to show that one is willing Ã¢â‚¬â€œ unlike the other political enunchs &#8211; to fight or speak up for the legitimate grievances of the community one represents and not just enjoy the patronage of the position. </p>
<p>Why, SothinathanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s offence against Party Discipline was even graver for he was not just an MP as Devamany is but a Deputy Minister of Natural Resources and Environment speaking against the government of which he is a minister.</p>
<p>Today, after the suspension, all is forgotten as long as he Ã¢â‚¬Å“balancesÃ¢â‚¬Â his rhetoric with, for example,  challenges to Female Opposition member for a fist-fight to the amusement of his coalition&#8217;s comrades! :)</p>
<p>It is a question of how one balances or juggle between commitment to BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s interest on one hand and a charade of oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s communityÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s interest on the other Ã¢â‚¬â€œ that is the real rock and the hard place &#8211; how to make occasional snippets against the hand that feeds you but just so to remind and prove to oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s constituency oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s representativeness of its interest whilst all the while acting this out to serve the ultimate end of shoring up BN&#8217;s pretensions in being a multiracial power sharing coalition taking care of all races upon which its acclaimed political legitimacy reposes!</p>
<p>Devamany has also calculated that when any motion is raised by his coalition cohorts to discipline him in Parliament, he can depend on he who criticized him for being a hypocrite earlier would also find himself to be between a rock and a hard place of having, on principle, to defend and speak up for him, as he last did in SothinathanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s case. :)</p>
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		<title>By: oknyua</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58733</link>
		<dc:creator>oknyua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Devasamy..&quot; theThinker

You and I got eye problem esp after that Harisonbinhansome&#039;s comment. I spelt Devamaney. His name is Devamany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Devasamy..&#8221; theThinker</p>
<p>You and I got eye problem esp after that Harisonbinhansome&#8217;s comment. I spelt Devamaney. His name is Devamany.</p>
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		<title>By: oknyua</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58732</link>
		<dc:creator>oknyua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YB Lim, 

If what Devamaney had said in parliament, as reported, is true, I take back my earlier comment about him. However I am a little cautious too, remembering what Sothi used to do before. So, i&#039;ll just wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YB Lim, </p>
<p>If what Devamaney had said in parliament, as reported, is true, I take back my earlier comment about him. However I am a little cautious too, remembering what Sothi used to do before. So, i&#8217;ll just wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58721</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a fact I like answer: There are minority Indian communities in Singapore, Thailand and even Hong Kong, and we don&#039;t even want to talk about Western countries especially in England - they don&#039;t take to the streets and we by far have a longer tradition.  In South Africa, Indian minorities invented the passive resistance famously participated and later led by Gandhi. Today, they live peacefully in many African countries.

What is most scary about all this? What has happened is historical in Malaysia because there have never been a minority group rally before but these so called leaders continue to have a mindset inherited AND further perversed. They exhort others to break new grounds and challenges but themselves stuck with the mentality of &#039;getting away with it&#039; - something their forefathers never intended it to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a fact I like answer: There are minority Indian communities in Singapore, Thailand and even Hong Kong, and we don&#8217;t even want to talk about Western countries especially in England &#8211; they don&#8217;t take to the streets and we by far have a longer tradition.  In South Africa, Indian minorities invented the passive resistance famously participated and later led by Gandhi. Today, they live peacefully in many African countries.</p>
<p>What is most scary about all this? What has happened is historical in Malaysia because there have never been a minority group rally before but these so called leaders continue to have a mindset inherited AND further perversed. They exhort others to break new grounds and challenges but themselves stuck with the mentality of &#8216;getting away with it&#8217; &#8211; something their forefathers never intended it to be.</p>
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		<title>By: lakshy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58716</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended a talk by several NGO&#039;s in Ipoh in October. In that talk, the former president of the NGO (a Malay) admitted that he was one of those involved in the shootings during May 13 1969, and under whose instructions they were acting. He was a young soldier at that time, and carried out his duties with zeal.

The truth is out there. We have our country being led by people who have bad motives and intentions. This is destroying our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended a talk by several NGO&#8217;s in Ipoh in October. In that talk, the former president of the NGO (a Malay) admitted that he was one of those involved in the shootings during May 13 1969, and under whose instructions they were acting. He was a young soldier at that time, and carried out his duties with zeal.</p>
<p>The truth is out there. We have our country being led by people who have bad motives and intentions. This is destroying our nation.</p>
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		<title>By: lakshy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/11/26/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/comment-page-1/#comment-58715</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taken from Harakah. Bears meditating upon in light of recent developments

In order to get rid of the Tunku politically, some criminal elements and over ambitious leaders in Umno orchestrated the bloody May 13 Massacre which killed a few hundred Malaysians, maimed a few hundred more other Malaysians, burned down a few hundred shophouses and homes and looted some of them and burned scores of cars and other vehicles. All crimes against humanity.

No inquiry after 38 years. Who says law is law? Why then no rule of law as far as the May 13 Massacre is concerned? Why is this continued rape of law being allowed? In whose interests?

And what about other Umno crimes against humanity like the Memali Massacre in the mid 1980s? When will there be an accounting? Where is the transparency? And where is the much talked about integrity? Including the integrity of the law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taken from Harakah. Bears meditating upon in light of recent developments</p>
<p>In order to get rid of the Tunku politically, some criminal elements and over ambitious leaders in Umno orchestrated the bloody May 13 Massacre which killed a few hundred Malaysians, maimed a few hundred more other Malaysians, burned down a few hundred shophouses and homes and looted some of them and burned scores of cars and other vehicles. All crimes against humanity.</p>
<p>No inquiry after 38 years. Who says law is law? Why then no rule of law as far as the May 13 Massacre is concerned? Why is this continued rape of law being allowed? In whose interests?</p>
<p>And what about other Umno crimes against humanity like the Memali Massacre in the mid 1980s? When will there be an accounting? Where is the transparency? And where is the much talked about integrity? Including the integrity of the law?</p>
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