How do you arrest someone without body contact??”

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Already 3 Canadians have been killed with this device.
Don’t be surprised in the police don’t start using this here.

You’re talking arbitrary detention here. To arrest you the police would need ‘reasonable cause’. The magistrate is prosecution oriented and interprets ‘reasonable cause’ in a manner favourable to law enforcement agents.

This is when we need the expertise of the blog’s legal analyst, Jeffrey QC. But sadly he’s gone – run out of the blog by an ‘impostor’ and a ‘fraud’.

I don’t really know what happened to the lawyers. Weren’t they arrested and then released on police bail? The CPC requires that the person arrested be brought to face the magistrate within 24 hours or is it 48 hours, and then be informed of the reason for his arrest, and asked to plead and then bail is offered – or not offered.

If upon commencement of PI the court finds there is insufficient evidence, and that having regard to the evidence there is no reason to hold the accused further, the accused is sometimes given a discharge “not amounting to an acquittal”. That way they avoid infringing the rule against double jeopardy.

There is no abuse. The police has not properly investigated the case and the prosecutor acted prematurely. Evidence against the accused fails to rise to the level required i.e. to meet the standard of prima facie case required before it could proceed to trial.

However, sometimes the accused is re-arrested as he walks out of court upon discharge not amounting to an acquittal. It gives the appearance of abuse of process – but technically there is nothing wrong for the police so to do.

Wasn’t that abuse of process?

And can someone tell me if a Magistrate’s court can charge someone for sedition? Wouldn’t that have to be heard in a Higher Court? I would expect sedition to be a major charge

I guess you can trust the police not to to see further than their noses. Had they allowed matters to take their own course, there wouldn’t be images of Malaysian Indians being pummelled by tear gas cannisters, showered with chemical-laced water flashing across TV screens round the world.

Demonstrators do what demonstrators do i.e. they demonstrate because they want to be seen and heard. Now we have images of demonstrators demonstrating because they are not allowed to be seen and heard. The significance of the memorandum addressed to the Queen of England has been all but totally forgotten.

The police are playing right into the hands of anarchists among the demonstrators.

How do you arrest someone without body contact??

Of course if you watched the Channel News Asia coverage of the protests at Batu Caves, you can clearly see the protesters marching out from the main gate peacefully and stopped in front of the FRU while chanting slogans, then the FRU violently pushed the people back into the temple with some FRU personnel seen using their shield to hit the protesters. They were lucky when pushing the protesters back didn’t nearly cause a stampede. All this was caught on video camera by an international news organization but mysteriously seemed to have slipped from the attention of Star, NST etc.

Furthermore, Musa said that “there was no body contact at all”. I have reviewed hundreds of photos and videos and clearly there were violent reactions by the police eg. a photo showing a bloodied Indian dragged away by police, videos showing police dragging a protester along the floor and another video showing police kicking at another protester while he was already pinned down by 3 other cops, video and photos of protesters who were directly hit by tear gas canisters on their body and face (with the police deliberately firing tear gas directly at the people).

Musa also said “police did not use any force, nor did they fire water cannons and tear gas at the crowd” in Batu Caves. Using the shield to hit people is not force? There was one direct hit between the shield and a protesters head, with the protester seen falling back! See the photos at Jeff Ooi’s blog and decide for yourself whether police did or did not fire cannons and tear gas into Batu Caves. (Link : http://www.jeffooi.com/2007/11/hindraf_rally_ethnic_minority_1.php#more)

Under the headline, “Traffic webcams broadcast rally”, The Star acknowledge that the traffic cameras could be used to watch the protest live. I saw it on the camera from 6.30am to 11.30am. As early as 7.00am people were gathering peacefully in KLCC, with many seen sitting on the ground. Without warning, police fired tear gas at the peaceful gathering. At other times also in KLCC/Conlay and Jalan Ampang, the FRU can be seen as the aggressors in attacking the peaceful crowd time and time again. The irony is this could be watched from the cameras and yet The Star can pretend that it is the protesters who provoked the police?

Many many videos show ordinary people voicing their very real anger at the government. Where were The Star’s so-called reporters? Yeah, forgot they were hiding behind the FRU comfortably. (that is until the protester’s threw back the tear gas at the police).

November 26th, 2007 at 15: 44.42
I can vouch for malaysiatoday. A few months ago DAP organize a forum in support of Wee Meng Chee (Namewee). I was there and the crowd was HUGE. If so many people can unite together in support of one single individual, imagine how much will turn up in support of the country. When the time comes, you can bet the Malaysian Chinese will make their voices heard as well.

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Personally I disgree with “racist” approach used by Namewee. Chinese community was manipulated for his recording business venture. I am glad he failed to make money for his first album.

Hong Kong Chinese are labelled more money-minded than any Chinese, but one million HK Chinese (out 5 million plus) went to the street to protest 4 June 1998 Tiananmen SQ massacre.

Malaysian Chinese still not resorting to street demonstartions because they still can survive unlike many Indians. Anwar said it right, hindraf is a safety valve for releasing their angers.

If Malaysian UMNO and MIC politicians are still bullshitting as usual and ignore the real problem in Indian community, they better send a team of MPs to Sri Lanka to conduct a thorought study on the root causes of civil war in Sri Lanka.

LIE NO.1 -
“Musa said his men had also exercised restraint in all the other areas and only used water cannons and tear gas to disperse the crowd in some areas.”

LIE NO.2 -
“There was no body contact at all. We made quite a number of arrests there (in the city) as well. ”

LIE NO.3 -
“We would have negotiated with the leaders to have them hand over the memorandum but there was no leader in sight. ”

Hello IGP, if you had issued a permit, the whole thing would have been over in 1 hour. No bruises. No battery. No assault. No tear gas. No chemicals.

Hello, IGP, please resign!

1. I am a Jew. Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Christian is? If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility? Revenge. If a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance be by Christian example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.
(III.i.49–61)

People with the same flesh and blood were bullied, bruised and battered.
People with the same intelligence and minds want to reclaim their voice.
People whose grandparents came as rubber tappers today remain as rubber tappers; others have been deprived of opportunities and a fair share of the nation’s wealth and bounty.
People who are denied land for places of worship.
People who can’t understand why the government keeps building places for religious worship with taxpayers’ money for certain community and demolishes temples built by other communities with their private money.
People who expect a place under the sun but are squattered in slums.
People who feel denied, deceived and trapped in despair by thieves in suits.

People who pray that but for the grace of God they might be a new face of Al Qaeda here.

to me, you are still a loser.

anyway, on your point, noted. coming on your point that Malaysian Chinese will unite when crunch time comes, i’m sceptical, but i still BELIEVE in the impossible, and I believe that there are Chinese Malaysians who loves Malaysia as much.

Is you are ignoring, why the tirade??
Who is looking more pathetic now?