The excessive use of police force with the firing of tear gas and water cannons against the Hindraf gathering in Kuala Lumpur this morning to present a memorandum to the British High Commission is most high-handed, ham-fisted, undemocratic and a grave disservice not ony to the Malaysian Indian community but to Malaysia’s international reputation in wanting to be a first-world developed nation.
If the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi had “walked the talk” of creating a Malaysia with “First World Infrastructure, First World Mentality”, today’s disgraceful display of excessive police force would not have happened.
Peaceful demonstrations and marches are common and accepted occurrences in First World developed nations which Malaysia aspires to become. As has been rightly pointed out recently, in Britain, Australia and other modern countries, when people wish to demonstrate, the police typically clear the way and make sure no one gets hurt. The streets belong to the people. And the police, like the politicians, are their servants. It is not the other way around as in Malaysia where the first reflex of the police and the government to any peaceful demonstration is to impose a ban and to fire tear gas and water cannons to deny Malaysians the fundamental right to a voice in national affairs.
During the world-wide anti-Iraq war demonstrations in late 2002, the Malaysian government had applauded mammoth peaceful demonstrations in the Western capitals, whether in London, Paris, Rome or Washington where crowds ranging from hundreds of thousands and even millions came out to peacefully voice their anti-war aspirations.
If the Police had issued a permit to Hindraf for their gathering to submit a memorandum to the British High Commission this morning, the whole incident would have ended in a peaceful, orderly and swift manner, which will not only be a credit to the police but to the nation’s international reputation as well.
This is a case where the Police has failed to make the important distinction between their role from that of their political masters in the Barisan Nasional.
The Barisan Nasional parties and leaders feel threatened by the Hindraf initiative, for it is a reflection of their failures in the past 50 years to accord justice, fair play and equality to the Malaysian Indians who have become the new underclass in the country as a result of relentless marginalization of their citizenship rights.
The Barisan Nasional parties and leaders have reason to feel threatened, but not the police, for the Hindraf peaceful gathering to the British High Commission was not a challenge to the Police and never posed a threat to peace and security.
The Police must demonstrate a “First World Mentality” of respecting peaceful marches and demonstrations as a norm for citizens of a would-be first-world nation to exercise their fundamental democratic rights.
They should be mindful of the Rukunegara objective to maintain a democratic way of life in Malaysia and abandon the “Third-World Mentality” of suppressing peaceful expression of legitimate opinion by the citizenry with tear gas, water cannons and excessive police force and instead transform themselves into allies for democracy by respecting the fundamental rights of Malaysians to peaceful marches and demonstrations while safeguarding law, order and security.
#1 by goldenscreen on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 6:37 pm
The irony is that the whole world could see the draconian and brutal reaction of the police to what was a peaceful demonstration, using the government’s very own traffic cameras! http://www.flickr.com/photos/7972222@N04/tags/hindraf/
So what was the use of locking down KL since Thursday besides a deliberate attempt to inflict collective punishment on the KL/Selangor population? Pak Lah, engkau pantang dicabar tapi sekarang masyarakat India telah mencabar kau, apa kau mahu buat? Pergi-lah bertaubat…
#2 by Cinapek on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 6:38 pm
I am not sure if the police in Johor wanted to show solidarity with their KL colleagues last night or they were rehearsing for a possible massive country wide rally in the near future.
Yesterday the PDRM in Johor set up a road block on the Pasir Gudang highway. I am not sure what time they started but when I drove by at around noon they were already in operation. There was a massive jam then. At 7 pm when I drove by again, they were still there and the jam was even bigger due to the rush hour plus the earlier jams.
The Pasir Gudang highway has been acknowledged by no less than the MB himself that the traffic is too heavy and there is a need now to build a new billion ringgit highway from Senai to Pasir Gudang to relieve the heavy traffic. Yet we have some brainless twits in the PDRM setting up a road block during the peak hours. Joining the traffic jam around 1km from the road block, it took me nearly an hour to clear the block. I feel sorry for those who came from Pasir Gudang further up. It must have taken them several hours.
We have lambasted the PDRM frequently of late for their lack of efforts in crime prevention activites. If this act is one of their measures to show they are on the ball, then it even more misplaced priorities. The policemen I saw on duty were certainly not after any serious crime criminals becuase the two of them holding the light sticks directing traffic were nonchalantly waving the traffic on. The others were dressed in traffic police uniforms and talking to a couple of cars that were pulled over. It looks like a traffic operations rather than a crime prevention operation. I hope the PDRM has a good explanation for their action becuase if it is a traffic operation then it has to be the most stupid and ill conceived idea to conduct a traffic operation on a major highway during peak hours causing a massive traffic jam and inconveniencing thousands of road users.
#3 by AhPek on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 6:50 pm
“Really bad for Malaysian Police! Why canons? Why tear gas? The marchers were prepared to disperse after handling over the memo.”.Endangered Hornbill.
Well the pollice are beholden to UMNO and they do the biddings of UMNOPUTRAS.
And so are all other institutions of this country.They all do UMNO’s biddings —- the Judiciary,the AG chamber,the ACA the Immigration Department etc,etc,etc.
#4 by kwkean on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 7:03 pm
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/53685CBD-40D4-4AC3-B354-73BBC2DA7D51.htm
Check out the pic from Aljazeera which showing our FRU carrying a machine gun! We are nothing different from Myanmar or Pakistan!!
The Malay had march on 10 Nov and the Indian did it today on 25 Nov. When will the Chinese march? I really wonder sometimes are we really that week to express our feeling or are we indulging/linger in our own world without caring those who suffer around us. Look at our youngster, drinking, smoking, clubbing, free sex life and yet when you ask them about politics and those major problems going on in the country, how many of them actually know about it?
Talk talk talk, complaint complaint complaint yet how many actually join the walk when we are needed? How many of us actually blindly voting MCA just because they were ‘cucing our longkang’ whereas they are the one who suck up our wealth and become an UMNO’s dog. “Bark doggy” and there they will bark like a damn good dog. Team A or Team B? Like the fark I care about those 2 groups in MCA!!!
All I know is that the people of Malaysia is suffering now due to NPE and these dogs are not doing anything other then barking when their master asked them to do so. YB LKS, please organize a rally for the Chinese, it will be a good idea to see how many Chinese will participated in it.
Don’t care if people call this a racist rally or what so ever, we need to know how many Chinese are paying attention to the major problem in Malaysia. I do believe the Malay and Indian want to know too, if we Chinese are with them or not. Not point calling us to UNITE if we Chinese are not showing any initiative to do so.
#5 by eagleye on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 7:05 pm
Ajazeera reported there could be more than 10,000 people gathered, CNN and BBC reported more than 5,000 people gathered. I don’t think so the crowd is only that much. I saw the crowd were huge. Maybe more than 100,000 all together. They keep coming in group by group even police try to disperce them. Thousands were blocked by police in Batu Caves(crowd estimation-30,000). More than 50 buses blocked. Few got arrested. Police use gangsters to beat Indians. Badly injured. Read 20 years old boy dead in Lebuh Ampang. Old Klang road metrobus refused to take Indian passengers. PUTRA didn’t stop in KLCC and Ampang Park. All this I heard from the people involved. I were there also. What a major dictates over democrates.
Mmmmm….. What’s happening? Do we need this government? Abdullah in overseas to attend CHOGM and Samy Velu hilang, some say India and some say in one of our island… Hiding?
Guys, it seems we are living under government’s mercy. Thats how they painting it. They use violence against peaceful march… I even manage to talk with one of quite highly rank policeman in Kampung Baru PUTRA Station, he feel pity with those Indians out there, police have no choice because the orders from gov are such. Let the people decide who they choose as their gov in coming election. Stil BN? Nothing else to say…
#6 by oknyua on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 7:08 pm
“I don’t get it..” zack.
Have you visited the Indians int he rubber estates? The life you see hasn’t changed since their grandfather days (>50 years).
Now visit a FELDA scheme set up under the NEP. Within 20 years, these settlers are now landlords, and their children are educated in Universities.
There is nothing British about the Hindraf protest. If estate Indians are treated like Felda settlers, would they protest? Now do you get it?
Tan Sri Manikavasagam and his Inland Finance did a lot for the Indians. The present leadership…? I don’t even want to see their names here.
#7 by sheriff singh on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 7:21 pm
Samy Vellu, the government’s top ethnic Indian politician and president of the Malaysian Indian Congress, denounced Sunday’s protest as “an opposition ploy to smear the government’s image.”
“We do not support street demonstrations,” he said in a statement.
“We have been working within the system to resolve the problems faced by the Indian community.”
Al Jazeera
Samy, Samy, don’t you realise by now the system is corrupted by viruses and don’t work properly anymore? Where have you been?
Just what has the system and you achieved for your community? Why are they so unhappy that they are all crying out loud? If you are so “effective”, why have they not approached you? Just what have you done for your community Samy?
I hear you were shivering last night and today. You are now confirmed to be the last runner-up and no longer a “wira” in their eyes. You are a has been. Sungei Siput is no longer safe. You wanna try Gua Musang? I hear there may be “receptions” waiting for you when you next visit your temples and community functions. And Pak Lah is frustrated ‘cos you ain’t in control no more!
Oh Samy, Samy, Oh, oooo Samy Blue.
#8 by sheriff singh on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 7:27 pm
Boy, pictures on the internet showed police “Storm Troopers” ala Star Wars in action. (The Empire Strikes Back?).
Gotta find Luke and the Jedis pretty soon. But hey, in Chapter Six, the good guys win over the Evil Empire.
#9 by wtf2 on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 7:31 pm
semi value’s busy with wigs and hair transplants.
bodowi is busy with his goats and ‘erb garden
KJ is trying to bring the planet of the apes onto malaysia
any citizen of malaysia with some brains left should vote for alternative parties.
#10 by sheriff singh on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 7:45 pm
Quick, find Alaka Zam for a comical comment.
#11 by MISHUGINA on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 7:52 pm
Police used high-handed treatment on Hindraf protestors today. I passed by Jln Ampang, just below MRR2 highway and saw police having a fight with couple of protestors. Cant believe the police were pussies mobilizing their forces to paralyse KL just for Indian minority protestors.
On the same day, UMNO puppets NST published a so-called independent BS by Merdeka Survey claiming people’s confidence in BN still remains strong.
To say democracy is still alive in Bolehland is beyond farce.
#12 by MISHUGINA on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 8:09 pm
LOL, found this bulletin:
Here in Bolehland we have
our very own
7 wonders.
1. THE ZAKARIA ‘PALACE’
The only building built with no
approval and unpaid
assessment fees that is not demolished
and sealed. The
owner is the first bankrupt to be able
to own
a palace.
2. THE ‘BOCOR’ PARLIAMENT
Th e unique feature is its ability
to ‘leak’ away
billions of taxpayers money while the
guardians of
the nation stood there all wet.
3. ‘UNHAUNTED’ KUCHING PRISON
The only $600M prison in this world
that is free of
haunted stories and encounters.
Reaso ns – No execution
was done here before. In fact no
prisoners were held
in here. There are also no concrete
walls with barbed
wires to contain souls – both dead and
alive. Maybe it
can qualify as the first imaginary
prison built with
real money.
4. PAYA INDAH ‘WASTED’ WETLANDS
The nation’s premier eco-tourism park
holds the
record in the category of attracting
more lawyers
with litigation than tourists with
binoculars.& amp; amp; amp; amp; amp; amp; amp;
amp; amp;
amp;
amp; amp;
lt;BR
5. ‘NOT SO’ SMART TUNNEL
Unique ly designed to alleviate floods.
When completed,
it does everything except alleviate
floods.
6. ‘DISCONNECTED’ CYBERJAYA
The one and only high tech city in the
world that
offers limited or no internet
connecti on to its
residents.
7. CROOKED ‘CROOKED’ BRIDGE
The most crooked bridge in the world
dreamt by a
most crooked mind. Too bad it was
abandoned; otherwise
it would make it as one of the
wonders. It will end up costing more
NOT to build
than it would have to actually build
it.
AND A BONUS SURPRISE ….PRESENTING
TH E LATEST 8TH WONDER :
THE 1ST MALAYSIAN ASTRO MAN BLASTED
OFF TO NOWHERE WITH MILLIONS OF
RAKYAT MONEY BURNT IN 10 DAYS FOR THE
MOST EXPENSIVE SPACE EXPEDITION
HAS ENTERED INTO THE MALAYSIAN
GUINNES S BOOK OF RECORDS AT 10 PM ON
0CT 10, 2007. BRAVO!
( p.s. NO WONDER – PRICES today has
increased “NAIK , NAIK, NAIK ” in
2007….look and see….for
sure.. ……tahun depan minyak
mestiiiiii ii naik punya….this year
cannot naik….sebab sudah
promise-mah . ..!!!! tahun depan sure
naik like soyuz pecut…dasyhat
l ooo…. )
#13 by sj on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 8:17 pm
To maximise the effect of the protest, I suggest posting pictures and videos on the internet. Use the media to spread the message. You can be sure that there will be news blackout in Malaysia, but they sure wont be able to black out You Tube.
#14 by AhPek on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 8:38 pm
Over a period less than a month police have resorted to force to break up two peaceful gathering, one a peaceful march to present to the Agong a petition requesting the EC to that all political parties will contest on a level playing field and the second one is to gather in front of the British High Commission so as to present to them a memoranda to the Queen of Britain.
These are peaceful gathering and the police have seen it fit to refuse such reasonable request.
They did not see it unreasonable to grant permission Khairy the SIL
when he organised a protest against Condaleeza Rice who is an official guest of the country at the invitation of the FIL.Can you allow your son-in-law to yell abuse to your guest to your house when he arrives at your door step.Bodohwi allows that to happen!!
So police is doing OMNO’s bidding. They are beholden to them.Under this circumstances it is no longer to obey the rule –the UMNO made rule for under such oppressive rule ‘Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty.The obedient must be slaves.’. So says Henry David Thoreau
#15 by AhPek on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 8:45 pm
Correction–”………………….requesting the EC to be fair so that all political parties can contest on a level playing field and ……………….”.
“Under the circumstances it is no longer necessary to obey the rules — UMNO made rules for under such oppressive rule …………………….’.
#16 by straight talk on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 8:50 pm
Well! MIC has failed. whatever crumbs are given to the Indians through MIC has been graped by Samy and his team. So there needs to be some change in the representation. For those who stood their grounds and marched Kudos to you. You have taken on 4000 members of PDRM. At least you have been shown on all UMNO controlled TV Stations. Ha! Ha! the Indians march can effect adversely on the economy….. Now Pah Lah we will continue until you ensure fair treatment to all Malaysians. We are born in Malaysia. My motherland is Malaysia….So why can’t I be treated fairly. Why can’t I be given loans so that I can succeed. Why should the wealth of the country be given to only the Malays. Should I not be entitled to a SME loan as a fellow Malaysian.
Pah Lah this is a result of 50 years of frustrations…You say you are the Prime Minister of all Malaysians and I say you PENIPU BESAR.
#17 by budak on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:21 pm
Since we’re the master why shall we pay the “government slaves†to work for UMNO…
For today onwards, I’ll not pay tax, pay toll, pay anything related to government department…
if 30% or 7.8 million of Malaysian like me refuse to pay tax… see whether the government have ability to house us in jail or not…
#18 by mendela on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:25 pm
More than 50 000 brave Malays have done it on Nov 10, 30 000 courageous Indians have done it today, when is the Chineses’ turn?
#19 by lakshy on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:25 pm
Today the Indians who went to make their voices heard and stood against great adversity and stayed calm came close to emulating Gandhiji’s teachings! I salute you guys! You are heroes!
But it cannot stop now. BN must be voted out…………completely. That is the ONLY way for this nation to progress.
BN leaders are not concerned about this nation. They only care about lining their own pockets. Well its time for the rakyat to set matters right!
Lets vote them out.
And lets give them all a message loud and clear. Any function that they attend, we should get up and leave loudly when they start talking. We dont need to stay and listen to the nonsense they spout from their berok mouths!
#20 by bra888 on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:27 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m96FCTKHNA8
#21 by hutchrun on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:27 pm
A martyr is made:
HINDRAF Update at 11.00A.M
20 years old boy dead in Lebuh Ampang
http://policewatchmalaysia.com/
#22 by lakshy on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:28 pm
If it’s a temple function…………get up and walk out when they start talking. That message should get to them loud and clear.
These goons are so distanced from the rakyat! I guess its because of all the wealth they have misappropriated………..like Maika, Telekoms shares …..NLFC, etc
#23 by izrafeil on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:38 pm
ISRAEIL used rubber bullets
MALAYSIA FRU COMPLETE WITH MACHINE GUNS
hey they even fired two live rounds not long ago…. BATU BUROK
now compare!
#24 by AhPek on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:40 pm
Before independence one often hears of these words from the Malays ‘Ini negeri aku.’.This is where the seed of Malay fanatism comes from.Whereas the truth is all of us are pendatangs. The original people are the orang aslis in the jungle of Peninsula Malaysia in the case of Malaya.They were already here as far back as when homo sapiens move out of Africa.The Malays came somewhere around the time when they first migrated from Yunan to Cambodia with one group coming from Cambodia thro to Thailand and eventually ending up in Malaya whilst the other went to Indonesia with some coming to Malaya from Indonesia.This probably happened some 700 years ago. Some tombstone found in Kelantan even suggested an earlier period than this and that tombstone is said to be Chinese!
As Malaysians we must never let anybody say that we belong here because we are pendatangs because the chap that asserts that is also a pendatang (the orang asli has never utter this to anybody surprisingly).
#25 by AhPek on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:43 pm
Correction–”…….we must never allow anybody to say we don’t belong here because the chap that utters this is also a pengdatang .(…………………………).”.
#26 by lakshy on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:50 pm
Ah Pek, actually they did. When Tun Dr Ismail and gang coined the term Bumiputra (which in Sanskrit means sons of the soil) some wise guy came up with the term pri-bumi to refer to the indigenous peoples of Sabah and Sarawak, merely because they predate the Bumiputras in point of time in appearing in Malaya. It became a very sensitive issue at that time I remember when I was a kid.
Hey what they heck, Parameswara who founded Malacca was a Hindu Prince……. So how long ago did the Malays…….
But the sad part is an Indonesian can have more rights in Malaysia today than a Malaysia born Indian. Now that cant be right can it? How else can you explain the likes of Sanusi Junid, and Khir Toyo who are of Indonesian descent getting to the top in Govt office? Can any Indian do this today even if he had many generations born in Malaysia?
#27 by eagleye on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:51 pm
Latest, I heard FRU fired tear gas inside the gate of Batu Caves Temple yesterday. This occurs when a group of unidentified Indians act vioently towards FRU and injured them. Even damaged their vehicles. After this act, this group disappeared. This statement i heard from a group of people from Batu Caves which witness that incident. As what they showed in TV3 Buletin Utama today, police were injured. Buletin Utama news all sided to governments. They didn’t show how many Indians injured and about a death. There still more than 150 Indian are in custody. Hindraf Lawyers are fighting for them.
Indians moved peacefully even though FRU attacked them heavily in Ampang. Can hear each group leaders always keep shouting “peace, aman, cool, relax and all the Mahatma Ghandi words”. Is that could be a major set up by government or SAMY VELU in Batu Caves? Stil the crowd which i heard unofficially from policeman which is on duty reached 300, 000. If there is no road blocks and threatenings for 5 days, could reach more than a million.
Mmmmm… we are not talking just about Indian powers, it is RAKYAT POWERS!!! We do not want to eat BN poisons towards indirect racism. HIDUP BERSATU,NEGARA MAJU…
#28 by max2811 on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 9:52 pm
To Mendela.
Please don’t think that the Chinese are not pissed by UMNaziO. They are worse off. But they are more resilient. They just work harder. Study harder. And they have more choices. If one job is not enough to support his family, then he’d have two jobs. They don’t wait for others to help. They help themselves. They don’t beg for money or places to study. They pay their own thru loans or family support. You can send 10k people or 50k people to protest but at the end of the day UMNaziO will not give up their cake. It’s just too tasty. Too much money involved. Too reliant on the state coffers. If you take that away from them, they will rot. They can’t feed themselves. They can’t hold on to a job. They can’t survive. The only way is to get yourself qualified and leave the country. They have a strangle hold on everything. Thanks to Tun M. Good nite.
#29 by zack on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 10:06 pm
Hello oknyua ,
Still don’t get it because if your description is the situation in Malaysia..why go for the British? Go for those who causes it here in Malaysia! Vote them out …democratically …
#30 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 10:30 pm
YB LKS:
“Hindraf rally – excessive use of police force with firing of tear gas and water cannons”
Excessive? That’s the understatement of the Week!
This is a Pure abuse of power.
An Immoral and unconscionable use of force.
Unjustified and unjustifiable by any yardstick of the common man.
A violation of innocence in a civil society.
Has underpinnings of hatred & contempt for depressed underclass.
HAdhari what? Why should it be Hadhari against Hare Hare. Why can’t it be peaceful Hari hari?
#31 by eagleye on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 10:41 pm
Kerajaan Main Sentimen Perkauman Dalam Isu Hindraf: AMK
KeADILan
Kuala Lumpur, 24 November – Naib Ketua Angkatan Muda Keadilan Malaysia (AMK), Khairul Anuar Ahmad Zainuddin hari ini mendesak pihak Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM) untuk meluluskan permit ke atas perhimpunan yang bakal dianjurkan oleh Hindraf Ahad ini.
Dalam satu kenyataan yang diperoleh oleh SuaraKeadilan.com, Khairul berkata sebagaimana perhimpunan yang dianjurkan Bersih pada 10 November lepas, perhimpunan Hindraf ini adalalah merupakan satu manifestasi hak rakyat untuk berhimpun dan menyatakan pendapat sebagaimana yang dijamin Artikel 10 Perlembagaan Persekutuan.
“Tindakan Timbalan Perdana Menteri yang mengecam Hindraf dengan cemuhan berunsur perkauman adalah sesuatu yang amat biadap, dalam keadaan masalah kerencaman masyarakat India di Malaysia pada masa kini bukan satu keadaan yang boleh dimanipulasi dengan sentimen perkauman.
“Sebaliknya ia berbalik kepada konsep keadilan sosial dan pengagihan ekonomi yang tidak seimbang yang diamalkan oleh kerajaan Barisan Nasional’†ujar beliau mengulas respon Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak beberapa hari lepas mengenai isu Hindraf ini.
Dalam usaha mengekang perhimpunan ini, pihak polis telah menahan 3 peguam yang merupakan tulang belakang kepada Hindraf iaitu P Uthayakumar, P Waythamoorthy dan V Ganapathy Rao semalam dan disabitkan kesalahan di bawah Akta Hasutan.
Menurut Khairul, penahanan oleh PDRM adalah merupakan satu tindakan yang amat tidak profesional, di saat mereka bangkit mempertahankan hak masyarakat India.
“Tuduhan yang disabitkan ke atas mereka di bawah Akta Hasutan juga adalah satu tindakan yang jelas cuba mengekang rakyat untuk mendapatkan akses maklumat.â€Â
Beliau berpendapat sewajarnya Kerajaan Barisan Nasional memberikan penumpuan untuk memperbetulkan keadaan kestabilan masyarakat Malaysia, bukan mengekang rakyat untuk berhimpun dan melaksanakan hak demokratik mereka.
“Isunya bukan masalah kaum India semata-mata, isunya adalah penindasan berterusan ke atas rakyat Malaysia tanpa mengira agama dan bangsa. Dan terbukti jelas, selepas 50 tahun merdeka, BN meneruskan tradisi gagal membela rakyat.â€Â
from:
http://www.suarakeadilan.com/isi/2007/11/24/kerajaan-main-sentimen-perkauman-dalam-isu-hindraf-amk/
#32 by ENDANGERED HORNBILL on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 10:42 pm
Let me play the role of the devil’s advocate and provide some fodder for Pak Lah and his famous but inexperienced SIL to think about!
What if IGP Musa Hassan briefs PM that the Police has no choice but to use force against the demonstrators?
PM, being not-so-smart agrees.
IGP has ulterior agenda. If things get out of hand, then PM loses face & popular support.
This will rattle PM & cause massive GE losses and unsettle UMNO.
Then next UMNO AGM, they will ask for PM’s scalp as an offering on the altar of Ketuanan whatever.
WHichever way it goes, PM is damned if he follows advice, damned if he doesn’t!
This is what happens when you have an unthinking, non-thinking or little-thinking PM (is there any difference?)
Then, crafty DPM waits in the wings to catch the crown when it falls.
SO what of the demonstration? The larger purpose of the Police Force is to create chaos for UMNO’s nefarious purposes.
At the end of the day and Year 2007, all Malaysians are suckers!
MY RECOMMENDATION TO WIPE THIS DISGRACE OFF THE MALAYSIAN POLITICAL SCENE AFTER 50 YEARS OF INDEPENDENCE, is to wipe UMNO off the map in the next GE. Then all the nation’s curses will be laid to rest.
And UMNO’s soul may R.I. P. forever.
#33 by izrafeil on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 10:45 pm
can anyone count how many tear gas canister were used today, and how many tankful of toxic laced water was used? thanks
…
#34 by malaysia born on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 10:50 pm
By such provocative and unnecessarily violent method by the authorities, one can’t help but feel worried about the future of our beloved country.
Such actions can only hasten the anger and resentment of the Indians against the government (as in Malaysia, it can only mean the Malays). This in turn will lead to the birth of a dangerous situation; the beginning of the Malaysia chapter of the Tamil Tigers.
The PM and IGP has blood on their hands by not permitting the release of these pent up frustrations and emotions that did not manifest overnight but rather through the failure of the government economic policies and the inefficiency of the Indian based political parties to raise the living standard and dignity of their fellow Indians.
The future has been looking bright for the Indians of Malaysia and it sure doesn’t look good for Malaysia now.
#35 by Jackychin on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 10:50 pm
There will be more rally to come until the issue is “DESENSITISED!”
#36 by malaysia born on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 10:51 pm
……….* The future has NOT been looking bright for the Indians of Malaysia and it sure doesn’t look good for Malasyia now.
#37 by EARNEST on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 11:00 pm
Today, Hindraf demonstrators went to cash their cheques promised by the Constitution. The cheques bounced. — Courtesy of Martin Luther King.
#38 by cheng on soo on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 11:08 pm
If the police (or their ‘atasan’) can use such excessive force within a period of 15 days, It means their ‘atasan’ don’t give a damn for Rakyat. Rakyat should know what to do in next GE, Main media said protesters ‘violent’ first. Would anyone in right state of mind believe, empty hand protesters act violent against fully armed police !
#39 by DarkHorse on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 11:19 pm
EARNEST, the answer to your question about Jeffrey and the Cambridge “brat†is on the other thread:
“Hindraf rally – police stop over-reacting, dismantle roadblocks and issue permitâ€Â
#40 by Jong on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 11:44 pm
DarkHorse,
Just let it pass and keep the peace, ok? Thanx.
#41 by smeagroo on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 11:47 pm
To the Indians well done!
I think of all the bunch, we chinese will be the main cowards when it comes to this. DUring hte 10.11, the malays hv shown they can stand up for what is right. Now the Indians. We always talk about inequality and we hv been hardly hit. But i am sure if there is such a rally tomorrow, we might not even get 10000 people.
The question is not whether we chinese dont seek for help like beggars. One dude said that if we cant survive we get a 2nd job or even a 3rd. But dont u see, that is not the solution. Sooner or later jobs will be scarce [deleted]
If we Malaysians can be so “defensive” and “stood up” for atrocities shown by other countries, why cant we do the same for our own?
#42 by kslaw70 on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 11:56 pm
Cause of this demostration, Bodowi will simmon a meeting among all the top crooks of BN, This is what he will say during the meeting :
“Oleh kerana masyarakat India terasa tersingkir, saya akan menwujudkan sebuah “koridor ekonomi” bagi tiap-tiap negeri di Malaysia. Kerana SIL saya dan mereka yang di Pejabat Tingkat Empat mahir menciptanya.” Harap semua kaum akan dapat berkongsi kekayaan negara.”
Samy kata : saya sokong kuat-kuat cadangan PM, sememangnya PM ialah seorang yang perihatin. Kita dapat selesaikan masalah dengan cara rundingan dalaman.
OKT kata : Apa-apa masalah harus diselesaikan dengan cara kompromasi BN. Kita tidak harus mengadakan demostrasi. Ini bukan budaya kita. PM akan bertindak adil utk semua kaum.
Oh yeah
#43 by negarawan on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 11:57 pm
Badawi and UMNO, your keris has drawn the blood of innocent lives. MIC and MCA, if you still have any honour left in yourselves, you should commit suicide. BN is utterly disgusting by any human standards!
#44 by DarkHorse on Sunday, 25 November 2007 - 11:58 pm
That does not depend on me, Jong. I feel sorry for Jeffrey and Lee Wang Yen and others like them.
Further, I’m answering a question by EARNEST.
#45 by DarkHorse on Monday, 26 November 2007 - 12:01 am
EARNEST, the answer to your question about Jeffrey and the Cambridge “brat†is on the other thread:
“Hindraf rally – police stop over-reacting, dismantle roadblocks and issue permitâ€Â
I hope this helps to fill up the gap in the information.
#46 by EARNEST on Monday, 26 November 2007 - 12:32 am
Thank you DarkHorse. I have read it. Very impressive. How come you know so much about them?
#47 by pwcheng on Monday, 26 November 2007 - 12:51 am
malaysiatoday.com Says:
November 25th, 2007 at 18: 13.09
You are right, Just see their placard and protest during the era of the Malayan Union. They can do it then but after enjoying all the comfort at the expense of the poor rakyat, Malays included, they had changed their tune o say that “demo is not a local political culture ” now. What a farce.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Protest_against_Malayan_Union.jpg
A recent example is with Proton; it is clear that Volkswagon spun them,(must be due o their hard headed NEP policy which they thought they can drive into everybody’s throat) but instead he said Proton do not need Volkswagon or GM because they are already getting healthy on their sales.
These stupid spin doctor do not realize that they are just putting a noose around their own neck because if what he say is true, no investors will dare come here as they can be abandoned anytime, if the Malaysian economy gets better.
#48 by lml3281 on Monday, 26 November 2007 - 1:01 am
For what is happening in Malaysia now, this generation we are considered doomed. But we must continue to fight on at least for our next generation. Whether our forefathers the Malays from Aceh, the Chinese from Mainland China, the Indians from Tamil Nadu India, the Ceylonese from Sri Lanka etc, we are Malaysian. Malaysia is our native land as we are born in Malaysia, grow up in Malaysia, study in Malaysia, work in Malaysia, celebrate various festival in Malaysia and did many other things together in Malaysia. Remember we were a powerful nation in badminton. We have Misbun Sidek (Jawa), Punch Gunalan (India) and Eddy Choong (Cina) all Malaysian. In 1992, I was in the stadium Negara and it was an unforgettable moment because Rashid Sidek, Jalani Sidek, Rasif Sidek, Foo Kok Keong, Cheah Soon Kit, Soo Beng Kiang and Kwan Yoke Meng are the Malaysians who brought back the prestigious Thomas Cup by beating the Indonesians and I was feeling very very happy because not only we have won the Thomas Cup, I saw with my bear eyes a chinese hugging a malay, an indian hugging another malay in tears. I believe those hugging each other is a Malaysian and not chinese, malay or indian. In football we have R.Arumugam, Mokhtar Dahari, Soh Chin Aun and many more Malaysians. But I guess we have forgotten all these because we have been manipulated by just a few of the POWER CRAZY, GREEDY, PEOPLE WITH NO MORALE (I use the word people instead of animal because these earthlings uses their brain to manipulate) and divided us Malaysians by implementing various UNETHICAL rules/laws so that they can continue to be in power and rule over us. We are no more in the colonial years where the British uses the chinese, indians and malays.
THINK VERY CAREFULLY FOR OUR NEXT GENERATION AND FOR MALAYSIA, FOR WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE. DO NOT END UP LIKE MYANMAR OR LIKE INDONESIA. WE CAN BE AS RICH AS SINGAPORE OR AUSTRALIA IF NOT RICHER, WHERE EVERYONE MALAYSIAN WILL GET A FAIR SHARE OR AT LEAST BE ABLE TO OWN A HOME! MALAYSIA BOLEH IF WE ARE UNITED NOT AS A CHINESE, NOT AS A MALAY, NOT AS AN INDIAN BUT AS MALAYSIANS. WE ARE NOT STUPID! JUST THAT WE LET THOSE #X@$ MAKE US LOOK STUPID. FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD, THOSE #X@$ WILL GET THEIR FAIR SHARE OF PUNISHMENT!
I would like to congratulate the Australians because they are CLEVER. See they have elected a new government that opposes war.
#49 by Godamn Singh on Monday, 26 November 2007 - 1:06 am
earnest, jeffrey is a regular contributor on this blog and has been so for years! he is respected and appreciated for his contributions. every contributor knows this. obviously you’re a newcomer.
#50 by smeagroo on Monday, 26 November 2007 - 1:19 am
Shouldnt DAP, PKR, PAS come out to woo these ppl now? HOw many of these ppl are registered voters? If 30000 of these disgurntled ppl can gv you 75% of their votes, that’s heck of alot. Dont forget the many who didnt turn up or couldnt.
Go for recruitment drive!