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	<title>Comments on: Malaysia completely out of THES-QC 200 Top Universities Ranking &#8211; a national shame</title>
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		<title>By: ==tulip speaks== &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You want my vote?</title>
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		<dc:creator>==tulip speaks== &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You want my vote?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You gave excuse when the universities failed to make impact at the world ranking. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You gave excuse when the universities failed to make impact at the world ranking. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chgchksg128</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgchksg128</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a blog that has the full ranking download with analysis.
http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/
http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a blog that has the full ranking download with analysis.<br />
<a href="http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://2hard2lie.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoted from The Australian (06-Nov-2007):
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22727653-12332,00.html

&quot;However the THES ranking system has come under fire following a new analysis of it and its main rival, Shanghai Jiao Tong University&#039;s Academic Ranking of World Universities.

Writing in the November edition of the Journal of Higher Education Policy and Management, Macquarie academics Paul Taylor and Richard Braddock said the Jiao Tong system was &quot;clearly superior&quot;.

&quot;In emphasising research, it (the Jiao Tong) focuses on one of the essential functions of a university ... in contrast with the THES system, which gives great weight to (subjective) peer review, the Jiao Tong system concerns itself with genuine criteria rather than mere symptoms of excellence,&quot; the pair said.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoted from The Australian (06-Nov-2007):<br />
<a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22727653-12332,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22727653-12332,00.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;However the THES ranking system has come under fire following a new analysis of it and its main rival, Shanghai Jiao Tong University&#8217;s Academic Ranking of World Universities.</p>
<p>Writing in the November edition of the Journal of Higher Education Policy and Management, Macquarie academics Paul Taylor and Richard Braddock said the Jiao Tong system was &#8220;clearly superior&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;In emphasising research, it (the Jiao Tong) focuses on one of the essential functions of a university &#8230; in contrast with the THES system, which gives great weight to (subjective) peer review, the Jiao Tong system concerns itself with genuine criteria rather than mere symptoms of excellence,&#8221; the pair said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pulau_sibu</title>
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		<dc:creator>pulau_sibu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UTM is happy to be within top 500! the VC mentioned about bringing in more international professors, but from where? from Indonesia and all these Islamic countries with all the unknown international professors? go and get the most well known ones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UTM is happy to be within top 500! the VC mentioned about bringing in more international professors, but from where? from Indonesia and all these Islamic countries with all the unknown international professors? go and get the most well known ones</p>
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		<title>By: MidClassMsian</title>
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		<dc:creator>MidClassMsian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TUANs are not afraid of the dropping of standards in our universities, they don&#039;t care. The DON&#039;T care. 

Like every Ah Meng, Ah Lian, Siva and Punita, I sat for STPM in order to gain a place in one of the local universities. 

Matrikulasi is nowhere near STPM in terms of its intellectual quality and level of difficulty. Period.

Meritocracy in this land is non-existent, right from primary school all the way to tertiary education. 

In 1991, my batch of students who took part in SPM exam created some very interesting stats. There were 9 students who scored 7 or more As but failed to score a credit in Bahasa Malaysia, some even with 8 straight As. Also, about 34% of studens fail to score at least a credit for BM. The result was definitely not in normal distribution. Interesting, because in the same school, the other exam center produced some totally different (and normal) results where majority of the students scored between C3 and C6; thus, a perfectly normal bell curve. 

For the earlier-mentioned exam center above, students had to look for alternatives as they were not qualified to study in Form 6 (in gov schools). For those whose family could afford, left this country; the rest decided to waste one more year for SPM to get at least a credit in BM, some decided to get a job then only decide what to do.

For your information, in those who left the country, one is now a qualified petroleum engineer in USA, one is a neuro surgeon in Singapore, one is a lawyer in England.........the list goes on.

Well, who cares????

The excellent gov of this country can only take care of some people, but at the expense of other people. All are Malaysians. Unfortunately, different treatments are applied.

I have been struggling in looking for the answers for all these funny, silly, appalling, stupid, ignorant, shiok sendiri, arrogant, dishonest..........policies. 

I think some people are just too afraid to lose, not even at the cost of this country&#039;s development and maturity. They would not want to give anything away to other races. The longer they wait, they more their own people are hurt. Somehow they are just so afraid to lose, kiasi. Or maybe the stake is just too much now, there is simply no way back anymore. The rhetoric of asking the people t be independent and don&#039;t rely on assistance are just bullshit. That person knows it is almost impossible to reverse the situation. Bad habits die hard, and bad habits are getting worse.

Its not only in education, but all aspects of our lives, ie business opportunity, welfare, etc.

I just hope something will happen to right the wrongs. Unfortunately, that thing might not be pleasant and can even be revolutionary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TUANs are not afraid of the dropping of standards in our universities, they don&#8217;t care. The DON&#8217;T care. </p>
<p>Like every Ah Meng, Ah Lian, Siva and Punita, I sat for STPM in order to gain a place in one of the local universities. </p>
<p>Matrikulasi is nowhere near STPM in terms of its intellectual quality and level of difficulty. Period.</p>
<p>Meritocracy in this land is non-existent, right from primary school all the way to tertiary education. </p>
<p>In 1991, my batch of students who took part in SPM exam created some very interesting stats. There were 9 students who scored 7 or more As but failed to score a credit in Bahasa Malaysia, some even with 8 straight As. Also, about 34% of studens fail to score at least a credit for BM. The result was definitely not in normal distribution. Interesting, because in the same school, the other exam center produced some totally different (and normal) results where majority of the students scored between C3 and C6; thus, a perfectly normal bell curve. </p>
<p>For the earlier-mentioned exam center above, students had to look for alternatives as they were not qualified to study in Form 6 (in gov schools). For those whose family could afford, left this country; the rest decided to waste one more year for SPM to get at least a credit in BM, some decided to get a job then only decide what to do.</p>
<p>For your information, in those who left the country, one is now a qualified petroleum engineer in USA, one is a neuro surgeon in Singapore, one is a lawyer in England&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;the list goes on.</p>
<p>Well, who cares????</p>
<p>The excellent gov of this country can only take care of some people, but at the expense of other people. All are Malaysians. Unfortunately, different treatments are applied.</p>
<p>I have been struggling in looking for the answers for all these funny, silly, appalling, stupid, ignorant, shiok sendiri, arrogant, dishonest&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.policies. </p>
<p>I think some people are just too afraid to lose, not even at the cost of this country&#8217;s development and maturity. They would not want to give anything away to other races. The longer they wait, they more their own people are hurt. Somehow they are just so afraid to lose, kiasi. Or maybe the stake is just too much now, there is simply no way back anymore. The rhetoric of asking the people t be independent and don&#8217;t rely on assistance are just bullshit. That person knows it is almost impossible to reverse the situation. Bad habits die hard, and bad habits are getting worse.</p>
<p>Its not only in education, but all aspects of our lives, ie business opportunity, welfare, etc.</p>
<p>I just hope something will happen to right the wrongs. Unfortunately, that thing might not be pleasant and can even be revolutionary.</p>
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		<title>By: choc</title>
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		<dc:creator>choc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to get into the top 200 list, when university students don&#039;t even understand simple english like this: 

&quot;Group discussion, Friday, 2pm at the library.&quot;

Got back a reply, &quot;Apa kamu cakap ni? Ku x faham la.&quot;

I wonder, how on earth that they got a place in the university?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to get into the top 200 list, when university students don&#8217;t even understand simple english like this: </p>
<p>&#8220;Group discussion, Friday, 2pm at the library.&#8221;</p>
<p>Got back a reply, &#8220;Apa kamu cakap ni? Ku x faham la.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder, how on earth that they got a place in the university?</p>
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		<title>By: choc</title>
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		<dc:creator>choc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to get in the top 200 list when there are actually university students who can&#039;t understand simple English, like this.

&quot;Group discussion, on Friday, 2pm at the library.&quot;

Got a reply back like this. &quot;Apa kamu cakap ni? Ku x faham la.&quot;

Wow.. I wonder how they got a place into the university..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to get in the top 200 list when there are actually university students who can&#8217;t understand simple English, like this.</p>
<p>&#8220;Group discussion, on Friday, 2pm at the library.&#8221;</p>
<p>Got a reply back like this. &#8220;Apa kamu cakap ni? Ku x faham la.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow.. I wonder how they got a place into the university..</p>
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		<title>By: kcb</title>
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		<dc:creator>kcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WhatÃ¯Â¼Å¸ With a VC who canÃ¢â‚¬Ëœt even get the very basic fact right
Ã¯Â¼Ë†ranking of NUSÃ¯Â¼â€°you expect her to bring MU to within top 200 rankingÃ¯Â¼Å¸ Keep dreamingÃ¯Â¼Â</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WhatÃ¯Â¼Å¸ With a VC who canÃ¢â‚¬Ëœt even get the very basic fact right<br />
Ã¯Â¼Ë†ranking of NUSÃ¯Â¼â€°you expect her to bring MU to within top 200 rankingÃ¯Â¼Å¸ Keep dreamingÃ¯Â¼Â</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole world is fast changing even Singapore a meritocratic society is not spared. Their premier univeristies&#039; rankings have slipped inspite of having the best facilities and academic staff money can buy and a very stringent student admission requirement.
Whereas our universities continue to be run on race based policies and the much maligned NEP I honestly don&#039;t see us improving ever.
Our country also has a very unique university entrance exam system whereby all Malays go through a one year matriculation exam and the other races through a much tougher 2 year STPM. Why is it so unfair to the minority races? Do you think such a system will improve the quality of our higher education? Of course not. It will bring down the standard of our universities and will harm the competitiveness of the beneficiary race. 
I guess Ketuanaan has a lot to do with this, they rather have the numbers than the quality of their kind. They have no qualms retarding the progress of other races thinking the whole world will wait for them. They fail to realise if other races progress it will bring great benefits to the country and to cause the bumiputras themselves to compete. At present, making obstacles so that the minorities will slow down enough for them to catch up is the name of the game. Certainly a most racist and unfair system of governing that will bring down this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole world is fast changing even Singapore a meritocratic society is not spared. Their premier univeristies&#8217; rankings have slipped inspite of having the best facilities and academic staff money can buy and a very stringent student admission requirement.<br />
Whereas our universities continue to be run on race based policies and the much maligned NEP I honestly don&#8217;t see us improving ever.<br />
Our country also has a very unique university entrance exam system whereby all Malays go through a one year matriculation exam and the other races through a much tougher 2 year STPM. Why is it so unfair to the minority races? Do you think such a system will improve the quality of our higher education? Of course not. It will bring down the standard of our universities and will harm the competitiveness of the beneficiary race.<br />
I guess Ketuanaan has a lot to do with this, they rather have the numbers than the quality of their kind. They have no qualms retarding the progress of other races thinking the whole world will wait for them. They fail to realise if other races progress it will bring great benefits to the country and to cause the bumiputras themselves to compete. At present, making obstacles so that the minorities will slow down enough for them to catch up is the name of the game. Certainly a most racist and unfair system of governing that will bring down this country.</p>
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		<title>By: cleancut</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleancut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be it in School or at work. As long as we are in &quot;MALAY&quot;.........SIA. Qualification is not so important but &quot;Kulitfication&quot; came first. Therefore, we all should know whether all those profesors are really qualified or simply &quot;kulitfied&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be it in School or at work. As long as we are in &#8220;MALAY&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;SIA. Qualification is not so important but &#8220;Kulitfication&#8221; came first. Therefore, we all should know whether all those profesors are really qualified or simply &#8220;kulitfied&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: cancan</title>
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		<dc:creator>cancan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Umnoputras will never admit their mistakes.
To them,because of their ketuanan mindset,they think they are the best.
How pathetic.
The education system is already in a mess.
Just because the rural Malays,cannot have a good start in the English language,they postpone the implementation of the teaching of Science and Maths in English.
Don&#039;t worry Umnoputras,I will call the whole world to wait for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Umnoputras will never admit their mistakes.<br />
To them,because of their ketuanan mindset,they think they are the best.<br />
How pathetic.<br />
The education system is already in a mess.<br />
Just because the rural Malays,cannot have a good start in the English language,they postpone the implementation of the teaching of Science and Maths in English.<br />
Don&#8217;t worry Umnoputras,I will call the whole world to wait for you.</p>
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		<title>By: leesze</title>
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		<dc:creator>leesze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we were to read the Time Higher Education Supplement World University Rankings in more detail, you would see this statement

&quot;In addition, we have strengthened our safeguards against individuals voting for their own university in the peer review
part of the analysis... But we suspect that some Malaysian and Singaporean institutions have lost out because of our increased rigour over voting for oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s own university, and there are no Malaysian universities in this top 200.&quot;

The statement suggests that UM, USM, UKM and so did not really qualify for the top-200 anyway in the previous years - their ranking was artificially inflated and bubbled up because academics &#039;voted for themselves&#039; in the previous surveys.

Isn&#039;t this worrying...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we were to read the Time Higher Education Supplement World University Rankings in more detail, you would see this statement</p>
<p>&#8220;In addition, we have strengthened our safeguards against individuals voting for their own university in the peer review<br />
part of the analysis&#8230; But we suspect that some Malaysian and Singaporean institutions have lost out because of our increased rigour over voting for oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s own university, and there are no Malaysian universities in this top 200.&#8221;</p>
<p>The statement suggests that UM, USM, UKM and so did not really qualify for the top-200 anyway in the previous years &#8211; their ranking was artificially inflated and bubbled up because academics &#8216;voted for themselves&#8217; in the previous surveys.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this worrying&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Malay led govt isn&#039;t very smart. They rather hire or promote mediocre people of their race than other races who are better qualified. They forget ultimately it&#039;s their children who suffer in the hands of mediocre lecturers since most of the students are of their race. I guess Ketuanaan is more important than excellence. That&#039;s why mediocrity will continue in Bodohland until they get out of their ketuanaan mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Malay led govt isn&#8217;t very smart. They rather hire or promote mediocre people of their race than other races who are better qualified. They forget ultimately it&#8217;s their children who suffer in the hands of mediocre lecturers since most of the students are of their race. I guess Ketuanaan is more important than excellence. That&#8217;s why mediocrity will continue in Bodohland until they get out of their ketuanaan mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;New Methodologies&#039; is a fact of life. The world changes what the slide reflect is no different in shift in power and importance we all know as globalization.

New universities are added to the radar screen, improved methods of measurements etc. These are no different in way things are made, the work we do, the way we work etc.

It all mean that in reality we are falling behind a changing world.

Yesterday, our DPM said that if we remove the subsidy on oil, then we would have RM40billion more to spend on development. Remove the subsidy today and our economy would spin into a recession. Remove over a few years, and growth would slow by at least a point or two. Make it up with spending? How long will that last and we all knows it mostly goes into the pockets of Scomi and Monsoon Cup stakeholders.?Najib talk of reaching for the stars and yet his ideas are practically stone-age...

Contrast what Rafiah said to Singapore response. It was ranked in 10th place and no gov official even made peep but now it has fallen, there are warning of apathy and resolve to be better..

I tell  you, they don&#039;t get it, they just don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;New Methodologies&#8217; is a fact of life. The world changes what the slide reflect is no different in shift in power and importance we all know as globalization.</p>
<p>New universities are added to the radar screen, improved methods of measurements etc. These are no different in way things are made, the work we do, the way we work etc.</p>
<p>It all mean that in reality we are falling behind a changing world.</p>
<p>Yesterday, our DPM said that if we remove the subsidy on oil, then we would have RM40billion more to spend on development. Remove the subsidy today and our economy would spin into a recession. Remove over a few years, and growth would slow by at least a point or two. Make it up with spending? How long will that last and we all knows it mostly goes into the pockets of Scomi and Monsoon Cup stakeholders.?Najib talk of reaching for the stars and yet his ideas are practically stone-age&#8230;</p>
<p>Contrast what Rafiah said to Singapore response. It was ranked in 10th place and no gov official even made peep but now it has fallen, there are warning of apathy and resolve to be better..</p>
<p>I tell  you, they don&#8217;t get it, they just don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: jjt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i totally agree!!!as a local university student , i m actually quite sad with the situation that lots of excellent students din&#039;t get the courses that they applied. instead, almost all of those students in popular courses are not those excellent in their studies.this is why more and more students nowadays are heading toward other higher institutions than local uni. come on wake up,excuses cant bring our ranking up,dont cheat urself!!! i think tat with our current standards , we actually cannot compare wif NUS!!! it is so shame to compare wif them!!! to produce graduates of quality is much more important than quantity!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally agree!!!as a local university student , i m actually quite sad with the situation that lots of excellent students din&#8217;t get the courses that they applied. instead, almost all of those students in popular courses are not those excellent in their studies.this is why more and more students nowadays are heading toward other higher institutions than local uni. come on wake up,excuses cant bring our ranking up,dont cheat urself!!! i think tat with our current standards , we actually cannot compare wif NUS!!! it is so shame to compare wif them!!! to produce graduates of quality is much more important than quantity!!</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the last forty years or so, the politics of language and education offers an opportunity for the far right of UMNO and Malay conservatives to continue their struggle towards a truly free and independent Malaysia. These leaders from the Youth Wing of the Party rose to become leaders and occupied positions of power and they have retired or passed on. Their place has been taken over by a new generation of UMNOristas who had spent time overseas during their most formative years educating themselves in western values - and among them democratic values, of popular representation and of a freely elected government. 

Upon their return but after having seen how their predecessors  indulged in the politics of language and education and emerged to occupy seats of power, they feel drawn to it like a needle to a magnet - but this time betraying all that they have learned  in exchange for the shortsightedness of their ambitions, subordinating national aspirations to a narrow form of Malay nationalism. 

As their children, beneficiaries of not only a western style  education  but western education, return to take over their places they will no doubt once again be pins to a magnet.

The result?? Our tertiary educational institutions would continue to &quot;grow&quot; to be fertile grounds for racists and bigots of the future. After years of abuse, it requires a visionary leader among the Malays to stop the rot.

Who can blame anyone who thinks that waiting for that visionary leader to emerge is akin to the Jews waiting for their Messiah to come after some 2,000 years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last forty years or so, the politics of language and education offers an opportunity for the far right of UMNO and Malay conservatives to continue their struggle towards a truly free and independent Malaysia. These leaders from the Youth Wing of the Party rose to become leaders and occupied positions of power and they have retired or passed on. Their place has been taken over by a new generation of UMNOristas who had spent time overseas during their most formative years educating themselves in western values &#8211; and among them democratic values, of popular representation and of a freely elected government. </p>
<p>Upon their return but after having seen how their predecessors  indulged in the politics of language and education and emerged to occupy seats of power, they feel drawn to it like a needle to a magnet &#8211; but this time betraying all that they have learned  in exchange for the shortsightedness of their ambitions, subordinating national aspirations to a narrow form of Malay nationalism. </p>
<p>As their children, beneficiaries of not only a western style  education  but western education, return to take over their places they will no doubt once again be pins to a magnet.</p>
<p>The result?? Our tertiary educational institutions would continue to &#8220;grow&#8221; to be fertile grounds for racists and bigots of the future. After years of abuse, it requires a visionary leader among the Malays to stop the rot.</p>
<p>Who can blame anyone who thinks that waiting for that visionary leader to emerge is akin to the Jews waiting for their Messiah to come after some 2,000 years!</p>
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		<title>By: digard</title>
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		<dc:creator>digard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is this so?&quot;

The question warrants an answer of several hours to read. There is no fast lane to it; and some adjustments here or there will not at all improve anything. Neither will sending 100.000 overseas to pursue their studies.

What I don&#039;t understand is, how can the VCs go stubbornly along and announce for 20 universities in this country to be among the 10 best by 2015 globally? Who will believe this? But that&#039;s our mentality, we just let them talk and count the minutes for the exercise to end. We subscribe to &#039;harmony&#039; when the VC of UiTM declared in 2005/2006 that UiTM had achieved a position in front of Harvard. At the same time it was one of the 10 leading research universities globally, so the VC in a staff meeting.
Talk could not be any more hollow than that. Accountability cannot be lower than zero. 
What bothers me even more, is the current trend by MoHE to streamline all universities, including the private ones, into an indistinguishable agglomeration of almost identical institutions fully directed by MoHE. At least in all places that I know, committee memberships and paperwork proving success and scientific activities are gradually replacing research.
I need to defend many a staff here: Though there is a hardcore stubborn minority of believers, the vast majority is well aware that all of these blueprints, masterplans and other activities are nothing but deliberate window-dressing for the advancement of the ministerial hierarchies. The societal culture simply is one of vertical organisation, leaders-and-followers, power distance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is this so?&#8221;</p>
<p>The question warrants an answer of several hours to read. There is no fast lane to it; and some adjustments here or there will not at all improve anything. Neither will sending 100.000 overseas to pursue their studies.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is, how can the VCs go stubbornly along and announce for 20 universities in this country to be among the 10 best by 2015 globally? Who will believe this? But that&#8217;s our mentality, we just let them talk and count the minutes for the exercise to end. We subscribe to &#8216;harmony&#8217; when the VC of UiTM declared in 2005/2006 that UiTM had achieved a position in front of Harvard. At the same time it was one of the 10 leading research universities globally, so the VC in a staff meeting.<br />
Talk could not be any more hollow than that. Accountability cannot be lower than zero.<br />
What bothers me even more, is the current trend by MoHE to streamline all universities, including the private ones, into an indistinguishable agglomeration of almost identical institutions fully directed by MoHE. At least in all places that I know, committee memberships and paperwork proving success and scientific activities are gradually replacing research.<br />
I need to defend many a staff here: Though there is a hardcore stubborn minority of believers, the vast majority is well aware that all of these blueprints, masterplans and other activities are nothing but deliberate window-dressing for the advancement of the ministerial hierarchies. The societal culture simply is one of vertical organisation, leaders-and-followers, power distance.</p>
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		<title>By: malaysiatoday.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>k1980 Says: 

November 9th, 2007 at 23: 56.05 
To compare STPM with matrikulasi is like comparing a durian with a rambutan respectively. Try cracking open a durian with your bare hands and then open a rambutan with a twist of your fingers.

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dUmno people will rebut you both are &quot;buah-buahan&quot;.</description>
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<p>November 9th, 2007 at 23: 56.05<br />
To compare STPM with matrikulasi is like comparing a durian with a rambutan respectively. Try cracking open a durian with your bare hands and then open a rambutan with a twist of your fingers.</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>dUmno people will rebut you both are &#8220;buah-buahan&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To compare STPM with matrikulasi is like comparing a durian with a rambutan respectively. Try cracking open a durian with your bare hands and then open a rambutan with a twist of your fingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To compare STPM with matrikulasi is like comparing a durian with a rambutan respectively. Try cracking open a durian with your bare hands and then open a rambutan with a twist of your fingers.</p>
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		<title>By: bra888</title>
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		<dc:creator>bra888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;We&#039; did it again! Are &#039;we&#039; good in being bad or what!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;We&#8217; did it again! Are &#8216;we&#8217; good in being bad or what!</p>
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