Comments on: Police at war with itself http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:21:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53397 ktteokt Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:15:31 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53397 Before long, Ramli will be putting on a similar show as that by Zakaria, giving the excuse of large number of family members to feed and all that jazz!!!! Before long, Ramli will be putting on a similar show as that by Zakaria, giving the excuse of large number of family members to feed and all that jazz!!!!

]]> By: AhPek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53191 AhPek Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:47:45 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53191 The first thing I think one should do is to keep pressing for electoral reforms.The first- past- the- post system with the constituency delineation engineered by that mamak spells an immediate doom to any wannabe party aspiring for political power 9either a party that denies two thirds majority or become new ruling party. THIS IS THE NO 1 IMPORTANT STEP TO MAKE BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE!! Without that happening what's the use of talking.It's simply impossible. The first thing I think one should do is to keep pressing for electoral reforms.The first- past- the- post system with the constituency delineation engineered by that mamak spells an immediate doom to any wannabe party aspiring for political power 9either a party that denies two thirds majority or become new ruling party.
THIS IS THE NO 1 IMPORTANT STEP TO MAKE BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE!! Without that happening what’s the use of talking.It’s simply impossible.

]]> By: dawsheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53190 dawsheng Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:45:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53190 A SIMMERING power struggle in the police force burst into the open on Tuesday when a top officer, who is accused of amassing assets of RM27 million (S$11.7 million), turned the tables on his accusers. http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/Asia/STIStory_172056.html?vgnmr=1 A SIMMERING power struggle in the police force burst into the open on Tuesday when a top officer, who is accused of amassing assets of RM27 million (S$11.7 million), turned the tables on his accusers.

http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/Asia/STIStory_172056.html?vgnmr=1

]]> By: AhPek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53189 AhPek Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:38:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53189 Should read ".......REAL BULLETS IN THE GENERAL ELECTION WAR ..". Should read “…….REAL BULLETS IN THE GENERAL ELECTION WAR ..”.

]]> By: AhPek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53188 AhPek Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:35:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53188 'For the sake of a smooth transition and a harmonious society, I would vote for anwar Ibrahim as PM and Lim Kit Siang as DPM.'.Endangered Hornbill. How I wish I've a magic wand and believe you me I will make your wish come true. But we have to be realistic in sizing up the situation.The odds stacked against the opposition party is so massive that to me it's an impossible task to even get slightly more one third of the parlimentary seats to deny BN two thirds majority.To fight against the current ruling party is to fight against the huge government machinery at the disposal of the ruling party.To fight against the ruling party is to have huge financial resources to launch a campaign blitz to sell your party.What do we have ---the finance resources of opposition parties are puny compared to BN.What about radio and TV time?? None to talk about for the opposition.Then again how to undo all the gerrymandering done during the mamak's time, what about the postal and phantom votes and can PKR or PAS give 200 ringgit to each voter as widely as UMNO can in the MALAY HEARTLAND to win the hearts and minds of the Malay voters there.THESE ARE THE REAL BULLETS IN THE WAR IN MALAYSIA. BN has plentiful of ammunitions whilst sad to say OPPOSTIONS have bugger-all. So now you tell me how to get Anwar as PM and Lim Kit Siang as DPM.Bugger me if I know! ‘For the sake of a smooth transition and a harmonious society, I would vote for anwar Ibrahim as PM and Lim Kit Siang as DPM.’.Endangered Hornbill.
How I wish I’ve a magic wand and believe you me I will make your wish come true.
But we have to be realistic in sizing up the situation.The odds stacked against the opposition party is so massive that to me it’s an impossible task to even get slightly more one third of the parlimentary seats to deny BN two thirds majority.To fight against the current ruling party is to fight against the huge government machinery at the disposal of the ruling party.To fight against the ruling party is to have huge financial resources to launch a campaign blitz to sell your party.What do we have —the finance resources of opposition parties are puny compared to BN.What about radio and TV time?? None to talk about for the opposition.Then again how to undo all the gerrymandering done during the mamak’s time, what about the postal and phantom votes and can PKR or PAS give 200 ringgit to each voter as widely as UMNO can in the MALAY HEARTLAND to win the hearts and minds of the Malay voters there.THESE ARE THE REAL BULLETS IN THE WAR IN MALAYSIA. BN has plentiful of ammunitions whilst sad to say OPPOSTIONS have bugger-all.
So now you tell me how to get Anwar as PM and Lim Kit Siang as DPM.Bugger me if I know!

]]> By: Traveller http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53185 Traveller Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:44:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53185 This is really scary. I thought it only happened in the movie, at least not so openly. Gangsters have always been known to have govt connections in many countries. But not so blatantly. To see them wielding such power and influence in the Malaysian police force that the police officers would go to unprecedented length to incriminate their own officers is just mind-boggling. The police seems to have no hesitation at all to send some of its own officers to jail just to protect the hoodlums. No wonder we cannot solve the Ah Long problem and the Ah Longs appear free to operate openly. I have been wondering for a long time how is that if that MCA complaint guy knows who to contact to negotiate for those who fall prey to these blood-suckers, how is that the police does not know these people. Now I understand why the gangsters are still doing their business. All these periodic clampdown and operations by the police against gangsters are just for shows. They go after the small minnows, probably even with the tacit agreement with the underworld. The real kingpins and Godfather are still alive and prospering. The govt is corrupted, the judiciary is also corrupted, and now even the police is corrupted. This is becoming a nightmare. This is really scary. I thought it only happened in the movie, at least not so openly.
Gangsters have always been known to have govt connections in many countries. But not so blatantly. To see them wielding such power and influence in the Malaysian police force that the police officers would go to unprecedented length to incriminate their own officers is just mind-boggling. The police seems to have no hesitation at all to send some of its own officers to jail just to protect the hoodlums. No wonder we cannot solve the Ah Long problem and the Ah Longs appear free to operate openly.
I have been wondering for a long time how is that if that MCA complaint guy knows who to contact to negotiate for those who fall prey to these blood-suckers, how is that the police does not know these people. Now I understand why the gangsters are still doing their business. All these periodic clampdown and operations by the police against gangsters are just for shows. They go after the small minnows, probably even with the tacit agreement with the underworld. The real kingpins and Godfather are still alive and prospering.
The govt is corrupted, the judiciary is also corrupted, and now even the police is corrupted. This is becoming a nightmare.

]]> By: TooFree http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53178 TooFree Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:59:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53178 I think we should put all 5 of them, the IGP, the CCID Director, the AG, the ACA director as well as the Deputy Home Minister on prime time tv and investigate the "Tengku" live in real time, reality TV style. At the end of the show (or better still, season) they will then report to the PM, before a live audience (and telecast live) who will then decide who should be fired. I think we should put all 5 of them, the IGP, the CCID Director, the AG, the ACA director as well as the Deputy Home Minister on prime time tv and investigate the “Tengku” live in real time, reality TV style. At the end of the show (or better still, season) they will then report to the PM, before a live audience (and telecast live) who will then decide who should be fired.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53168 undergrad2 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:04:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53168 "When sense prevails and the dust settles…we know that Malaysia needs a PM who has ‘balls’, to put it succinctly.' ENDANGERED HORNBILL Jeanne can confirm that! But what good is a Prime Minister who refuses to play ball with the 'rakyat'?? “When sense prevails and the dust settles…we know that Malaysia needs a PM who has ‘balls’, to put it succinctly.’ ENDANGERED HORNBILL

Jeanne can confirm that!

But what good is a Prime Minister who refuses to play ball with the ‘rakyat’??

]]> By: boh-liao http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53154 boh-liao Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:47:22 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53154 Interesting events unfolding! The so-called untrustworthy rumour monger blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin had for months been writing about Malaysia’s organised crime syndicate: all roads lead to Putrajaya and Goh Cheng Poh @ Tengku in his Malaysia-Today website. Rumour? Fiction? Set up? Fact? Exciting! Akan datang! Interesting events unfolding!

The so-called untrustworthy rumour monger blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin had for months been writing about Malaysia’s organised crime syndicate: all roads lead to Putrajaya and Goh Cheng Poh @ Tengku in his Malaysia-Today website.

Rumour? Fiction? Set up? Fact? Exciting! Akan datang!

]]> By: mwt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53146 mwt Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:54:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53146 From the print media accounts, more surprises can be seen. The most significant is the AG declaring that investigation has been completed and Datuk Ramli stating that “he is waiting for the BPR Officers to come and interview me anytime” adding “investigation is going on”. Can the ACA finish the probe without seeing him or they have done so? AG Gani confirmed “investigations papers have been submitted to his chambers for further action” And his wealth is far reaching when he set up the shell company with the retired army officer to deal with shares and Properties. Legally he was given permission to do so but has he not used his position to enrich himself? And he singled out the NST & the Berita Harian for having the privileged leakages from ACA. The proxy war is on contrary to that Deputy Minister pronouncement and he seemed to have overstepped and cross into someone else territory – CID instead of CCID under the mistaken protection from another Deputy Minister. More details from new post at http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2007/10/rm27m-cop-more-surprises-ag.html From the print media accounts, more surprises can be seen. The most significant is the AG declaring that investigation has been completed and Datuk Ramli stating that “he is waiting for the BPR Officers to come and interview me anytime” adding “investigation is going on”. Can the ACA finish the probe without seeing him or they have done so? AG Gani confirmed “investigations papers have been submitted to his chambers for further action”
And his wealth is far reaching when he set up the shell company with the retired army officer to deal with shares and Properties. Legally he was given permission to do so but has he not used his position to enrich himself?
And he singled out the NST & the Berita Harian for having the privileged leakages from ACA.
The proxy war is on contrary to that Deputy Minister pronouncement and he seemed to have overstepped and cross into someone else territory – CID instead of CCID under the mistaken protection from another Deputy Minister.
More details from new post at
http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2007/10/rm27m-cop-more-surprises-ag.html

]]> By: ngahc http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53145 ngahc Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:36:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53145 Ramli, please tell us how much wealth exactly do you have? Don't play the tactic of trying to get public sympathy..We are really fed up with corruption in the police force. If you are victim, go to the court of laws and proved it. We want to get rid of these 40% corrupt senior police officer once and for all. We will support ACA for carrying out their duties. Ramli, please tell us how much wealth exactly do you have? Don’t play the tactic of trying to get public sympathy..We are really fed up with corruption in the police force.

If you are victim, go to the court of laws and proved it. We want to get rid of these 40% corrupt senior police officer once and for all. We will support ACA for carrying out their duties.

]]> By: Cinapek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53144 Cinapek Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:35:25 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53144 For years I have bragged to foreign friends and business contacts about Malaysia's rule of law and why we differ from countries like Thailand where military coups are common. With the rapidly deteriorating situation in the law enforcement and judiciary community in this country, and with the man in the driving seat, the Minister of Internal Security aka PM clueless on how he should deal with the situation, my foreign friends has the last laugh. Pak Lah should listen to the foreigners on the ground on why FDI is not coming to this country - not those hoity-toity promises to invest in his corridors. Believe them only when you see the hard cash. Beware of another InventQ Jaya. For years I have bragged to foreign friends and business contacts about Malaysia’s rule of law and why we differ from countries like Thailand where military coups are common.

With the rapidly deteriorating situation in the law enforcement and judiciary community in this country, and with the man in the driving seat, the Minister of Internal Security aka PM clueless on how he should deal with the situation, my foreign friends has the last laugh. Pak Lah should listen to the foreigners on the ground on why FDI is not coming to this country – not those hoity-toity promises to invest in his corridors. Believe them only when you see the hard cash. Beware of another InventQ Jaya.

]]> By: justiciary http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53143 justiciary Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:34:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53143 The country is really in a mess.Use your votes to vote out the whole bunch of national thieves and robbers.This type of criminals are worse than the bank and jewellery shop robbers.Outwardly they look so sincere and respectful (at least to many ignorant rural folks).But they turn out to be the greatest scoundrels of the nation.What a pity? The country is really in a mess.Use your votes to vote out the whole bunch of national thieves and robbers.This type of criminals are worse than the bank and jewellery shop robbers.Outwardly they look so sincere and respectful (at least to many ignorant rural folks).But they turn out to be the greatest scoundrels of the nation.What a pity?

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53142 k1980 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:31:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53142 Team A fighting with Team B in the Police force. Let them kill kill other off and the country will be much less corrupt Team A fighting with Team B in the Police force. Let them kill kill other off and the country will be much less corrupt

]]> By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53134 ENDANGERED HORNBILL Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:51:59 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53134 When sense prevails and the dust settles...we know that Malaysia needs a PM who has 'balls', to put it succinctly. AAB is an abject failure. But Najib is no better. Nazri would turn the country into ash. So, it's either Lim Kit Siang or Anwar Ibrahim. For the sake of a smooth transition and a harmonious society, I would vote for Anwar Ibrahim as PM and Lim Kit Siang as DPM. I think that is the only way for this unending UMNO and BN circus to pack up their sick, sick, sick and silly show. When sense prevails and the dust settles…we know that Malaysia needs a PM who has ‘balls’, to put it succinctly.

AAB is an abject failure.

But Najib is no better.

Nazri would turn the country into ash.

So, it’s either Lim Kit Siang or Anwar Ibrahim. For the sake of a smooth transition and a harmonious society, I would vote for Anwar Ibrahim as PM and Lim Kit Siang as DPM. I think that is the only way for this unending UMNO and BN circus to pack up their sick, sick, sick and silly show.

]]> By: sheriff singh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53132 sheriff singh Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:45:54 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53132 Team A fighting with Team B in the Police force? Perhaps the godfathers should step in. Its for their own good. Team A fighting with Team B in the Police force? Perhaps the godfathers should step in. Its for their own good.

]]> By: HJ Angus http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53127 HJ Angus Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:15:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53127 Now we know why the IPCMC is still being resisted. So much muck about and within the PDRM. Don't know about this guy's involvement but it was not a good PR exercise to ban malaysiakini and Malaysia Today. Meanwhile here is a simple lesson on corruption for all. 3 pictures = 3000 words? http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2007/10/corruption101-for-dummies.html Now we know why the IPCMC is still being resisted.
So much muck about and within the PDRM.

Don’t know about this guy’s involvement but it was not a good PR exercise to ban malaysiakini and Malaysia Today.

Meanwhile here is a simple lesson on corruption for all.
3 pictures = 3000 words?
http://malaysiawatch3.blogspot.com/2007/10/corruption101-for-dummies.html

]]> By: Bigjoe http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53125 Bigjoe Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:02:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53125 If you ask me, its a tactical move on the police and ACA to blame each other so as not to have be accountable to the PM or anyone else on the state of matters.. They know this PM never really get angry and even if he does, he does little about it. He does not have the stomach to fire anyone big - he always delegate the really tough job because he has no confidence in his own decisions always needing an excuse for failure or being wrong. A well-trained civil servant is what our PM is. Look at the crooked bridge matter. He cancelled it, put it back, cancel it again - resulting in the cost being the same if they had gone ahead in the first place. If people didn't notice. Look at his promises when he came into office - literally none of the big ones he has kept - IPCC, more/moving Chinese schools, no more megaprojects, bailouts and cronism. etc. If you ask me, its a tactical move on the police and ACA to blame each other so as not to have be accountable to the PM or anyone else on the state of matters..

They know this PM never really get angry and even if he does, he does little about it. He does not have the stomach to fire anyone big – he always delegate the really tough job because he has no confidence in his own decisions always needing an excuse for failure or being wrong. A well-trained civil servant is what our PM is.

Look at the crooked bridge matter. He cancelled it, put it back, cancel it again – resulting in the cost being the same if they had gone ahead in the first place.

If people didn’t notice. Look at his promises when he came into office – literally none of the big ones he has kept – IPCC, more/moving Chinese schools, no more megaprojects, bailouts and cronism. etc.

]]> By: Godfather http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53124 Godfather Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:01:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53124 You KNOW you can't trust the Police. You KNOW you can't trust the AG's Chambers. You KNOW you can't trust the ACA. You KNOW you can't trust the judiciary. NOW WHAT ? You KNOW you can’t trust the Police. You KNOW you can’t trust the AG’s Chambers. You KNOW you can’t trust the ACA. You KNOW you can’t trust the judiciary.

NOW WHAT ?

]]> By: Jimm http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/comment-page-1/#comment-53121 Jimm Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:49:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/30/police-at-war-with-itself/#comment-53121 Our country are so unique and have weathered many 'colonial times' and what we don't need now is an internal 'hidden' colonial which worst then those before. Our country are so unique and have weathered many ‘colonial times’ and what we don’t need now is an internal ‘hidden’ colonial which worst then those before.

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