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	<title>Comments on: Burma&#8217;s Monks: Ethics is not confined to Books and Temples</title>
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		<title>By: Jamesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or is it some people are morally higher(holier) than others?

Of course, &quot;ethics may not be something to be confined to books and locked in the sacred precinct of temples&quot;, but be careful, religious fanatics or religious police may used your statement to justify your &quot;morally higher ground&quot; in accordance to their whimps and fancies in the post-Enlightenment age.

That, I would say, religion should be confined to Books and locked in Temples, Mosques and Churches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or is it some people are morally higher(holier) than others?</p>
<p>Of course, &#8220;ethics may not be something to be confined to books and locked in the sacred precinct of temples&#8221;, but be careful, religious fanatics or religious police may used your statement to justify your &#8220;morally higher ground&#8221; in accordance to their whimps and fancies in the post-Enlightenment age.</p>
<p>That, I would say, religion should be confined to Books and locked in Temples, Mosques and Churches.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farish A Noor,

Are you having some translation problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farish A Noor,</p>
<p>Are you having some translation problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Jamesy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/10/11/burma%e2%80%99s-monks-ethics-is-not-confined-to-books-and-temples/comment-page-1/#comment-51071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wildbil wrote in Burma Digest:

Hi Farish Noor,

Gone are:
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Bible-thumping evangelists talking of holy wars and moral crusades, angry bearded fanatics burning books and nosey neighbours spying on what the people next door are doing.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Should be:
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Quran-thumping Iman talking of holy wars and moral crusades, angry bearded fanatics burning books and nosey neighbours spying on what the people next door are doing.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Dare not to use the later?

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Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wildbil wrote in Burma Digest:</p>
<p>Hi Farish Noor,</p>
<p>Gone are:<br />
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Bible-thumping evangelists talking of holy wars and moral crusades, angry bearded fanatics burning books and nosey neighbours spying on what the people next door are doing.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Should be:<br />
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Quran-thumping Iman talking of holy wars and moral crusades, angry bearded fanatics burning books and nosey neighbours spying on what the people next door are doing.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Dare not to use the later?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: shortie kiasu</title>
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		<dc:creator>shortie kiasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senior Minister Mentor of Singapore had said it most aptly in the press about the military junta in Myannmar. The junta regime cannot last. Somehow they had lasted for the last continuous 45 years.

May be the people there needs external assistance in whatever forms relevant and effective. God knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senior Minister Mentor of Singapore had said it most aptly in the press about the military junta in Myannmar. The junta regime cannot last. Somehow they had lasted for the last continuous 45 years.</p>
<p>May be the people there needs external assistance in whatever forms relevant and effective. God knows.</p>
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		<title>By: BurmaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Monks: Ethics is not confined to Books and Temples &#124; BURMA DIGEST</title>
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		<dc:creator>BurmaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Monks: Ethics is not confined to Books and Temples &#124; BURMA DIGEST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In SEA, we are always closer than we thought.
The power struggling that widely seen in this region reflects our present situation domestically. We have grown , learning well from IT advancement and networking with the right group.
Malaysia, uniquely a well-transformed country that able to &#039;capped&#039; most of their people in thinking &#039;security&#039; and &#039;status&#039;. The idealogy from education point of view until the working society have well contended to &#039;take care of your own self first&#039; policy. As so, &quot;MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS&quot; have been the priority culture that practices by all.
This have brought about the country peace for the last 40 years or so.
Is that good ??
Well, it does provides a great advantage to the ruling government when things related to country affairs. So much opportunities can be created along the context of development.
Sediments of racism and religion are the common &#039;weapon&#039; applied to keep all Malaysian &#039;stuck&#039; in their own small world and complete in the rat race to reclaimed their living &#039;status&#039;.
So, MYOB have far inbedded in their thinking process daily.

As for coming GE which supposedly to be very soon due to many factors that surfaced recently, BN have &#039;prepared&#039; their victory drama well. Everything and those involved already placed their resources into action for the last two months and securing the confirmed results with all planned strategies in place.
Do get angry with BN as they will win again. We can never bring them down in this kind of GE because they have done their homework too well.

We all know that nothing last more than the 3rd generations in any trade because of changes. BN can be only waiting for the timing of self destruction to be wiped out. Most of those &#039;old dogs&#039; are gearing up for the final dash with those &#039;puppies&#039; yupping away with their smaller strides yet faster.

At the end of this journey, they will &#039;kill&#039; themselves over a mega dream that doesn&#039;t really belong to them at the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In SEA, we are always closer than we thought.<br />
The power struggling that widely seen in this region reflects our present situation domestically. We have grown , learning well from IT advancement and networking with the right group.<br />
Malaysia, uniquely a well-transformed country that able to &#8216;capped&#8217; most of their people in thinking &#8216;security&#8217; and &#8216;status&#8217;. The idealogy from education point of view until the working society have well contended to &#8216;take care of your own self first&#8217; policy. As so, &#8220;MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS&#8221; have been the priority culture that practices by all.<br />
This have brought about the country peace for the last 40 years or so.<br />
Is that good ??<br />
Well, it does provides a great advantage to the ruling government when things related to country affairs. So much opportunities can be created along the context of development.<br />
Sediments of racism and religion are the common &#8216;weapon&#8217; applied to keep all Malaysian &#8216;stuck&#8217; in their own small world and complete in the rat race to reclaimed their living &#8216;status&#8217;.<br />
So, MYOB have far inbedded in their thinking process daily.</p>
<p>As for coming GE which supposedly to be very soon due to many factors that surfaced recently, BN have &#8216;prepared&#8217; their victory drama well. Everything and those involved already placed their resources into action for the last two months and securing the confirmed results with all planned strategies in place.<br />
Do get angry with BN as they will win again. We can never bring them down in this kind of GE because they have done their homework too well.</p>
<p>We all know that nothing last more than the 3rd generations in any trade because of changes. BN can be only waiting for the timing of self destruction to be wiped out. Most of those &#8216;old dogs&#8217; are gearing up for the final dash with those &#8216;puppies&#8217; yupping away with their smaller strides yet faster.</p>
<p>At the end of this journey, they will &#8216;kill&#8217; themselves over a mega dream that doesn&#8217;t really belong to them at the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When dictators are enthroned, be they Generals or civilians, supported by a system that perpetuate their power unfairly and cruelly to the detriment of the common people, it&#039;s time the international community vex their influence beyond a mere whimper and help bring down corrupt, cruel and crazy regimes.

What right have the Generals to any claim on power beyond their personal greed for filthy lucre and their mindless hold on those guns which they are only to happy to open fire with.

Authoritarian and mindless regimes like Myanmar&#039;s serve as a warning to peoples across the world not to take their democracy and system of representative government lightly.

So, come next GE, Malaysians have a duty to dispose of BN too for their contemptible abuses of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When dictators are enthroned, be they Generals or civilians, supported by a system that perpetuate their power unfairly and cruelly to the detriment of the common people, it&#8217;s time the international community vex their influence beyond a mere whimper and help bring down corrupt, cruel and crazy regimes.</p>
<p>What right have the Generals to any claim on power beyond their personal greed for filthy lucre and their mindless hold on those guns which they are only to happy to open fire with.</p>
<p>Authoritarian and mindless regimes like Myanmar&#8217;s serve as a warning to peoples across the world not to take their democracy and system of representative government lightly.</p>
<p>So, come next GE, Malaysians have a duty to dispose of BN too for their contemptible abuses of power.</p>
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		<title>By: pwcheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>pwcheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RealWorld Says:
October 11th, 2007 at 09: 09.30

  &quot;Looking at the situation in Burma, we should be thankful that we are Malaysians&quot;.  

  Obviously you are a very simple minded person, a trait of the natives or sakai of the country. I see that you like to compare with the worst and keep away the best. How can Malaysia improve with your type of mentality, and that explains why the sakai is the same today as compared to 50 years ago.

   I am not sure of the purpose of the Malaysian going to space. Subsequently if it bears testimony that we can reap benefits from it, then we are doing the right thing and congrats to the government and the Malaysian in space but if they just stop short after the man returned to earth just for the sake of creating history, then it is another farce which is happening too often in Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RealWorld Says:<br />
October 11th, 2007 at 09: 09.30</p>
<p>  &#8220;Looking at the situation in Burma, we should be thankful that we are Malaysians&#8221;.  </p>
<p>  Obviously you are a very simple minded person, a trait of the natives or sakai of the country. I see that you like to compare with the worst and keep away the best. How can Malaysia improve with your type of mentality, and that explains why the sakai is the same today as compared to 50 years ago.</p>
<p>   I am not sure of the purpose of the Malaysian going to space. Subsequently if it bears testimony that we can reap benefits from it, then we are doing the right thing and congrats to the government and the Malaysian in space but if they just stop short after the man returned to earth just for the sake of creating history, then it is another farce which is happening too often in Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: megaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>megaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi RealWorld,

Anyone with enough millions can go to space nowadays ...

The issue is do we have a proper space program to create our own satellites, rockets and finally locally-trained astronauts ?

We can send dozens of astronauts into space. No problems. But at the end of the day, what&#039;s the contributions of such efforts to the Msian society at large other than a publicity stunt ?

A few more years, it would be forgotten and just a statistics or history in some dusty old records.

Anyone still remember the details of the Msian team that climb Mount Everest ?
Anyone still remember the details of the Msian sailor that tried to go around the world ?
Anyone still remember  the details of the Msian swimmer that tried to swim across the Penang strait ?
etc etc etc ....

What&#039;s the point of spending millions for just a few lines of sentences in a dusty old record ??? 

PLEAASSSEEEE RealWorld stop being so short-sighted ...

If the Malaysian astronaut is shot into with our own designed and built rocket by our own scientists and engineers and he is also trained locally by our team. I would be so damn proud that I would print 1 thousand T-Shirts that say &quot;Malaysia BOLEH!&quot; and distribute it for FREE ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RealWorld,</p>
<p>Anyone with enough millions can go to space nowadays &#8230;</p>
<p>The issue is do we have a proper space program to create our own satellites, rockets and finally locally-trained astronauts ?</p>
<p>We can send dozens of astronauts into space. No problems. But at the end of the day, what&#8217;s the contributions of such efforts to the Msian society at large other than a publicity stunt ?</p>
<p>A few more years, it would be forgotten and just a statistics or history in some dusty old records.</p>
<p>Anyone still remember the details of the Msian team that climb Mount Everest ?<br />
Anyone still remember the details of the Msian sailor that tried to go around the world ?<br />
Anyone still remember  the details of the Msian swimmer that tried to swim across the Penang strait ?<br />
etc etc etc &#8230;.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of spending millions for just a few lines of sentences in a dusty old record ??? </p>
<p>PLEAASSSEEEE RealWorld stop being so short-sighted &#8230;</p>
<p>If the Malaysian astronaut is shot into with our own designed and built rocket by our own scientists and engineers and he is also trained locally by our team. I would be so damn proud that I would print 1 thousand T-Shirts that say &#8220;Malaysia BOLEH!&#8221; and distribute it for FREE &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RealWorld</title>
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		<dc:creator>RealWorld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the situation in Burma, we should be thankful that we are Malaysians. 

We should be proud as yesterday we just went to space. This shows that Malaysia can achieve anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the situation in Burma, we should be thankful that we are Malaysians. </p>
<p>We should be proud as yesterday we just went to space. This shows that Malaysia can achieve anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Noor is making very sound points here but he does not propose anything other than an intellectual way to move forward. Not concrete ones. This contribution is important of course but frankly, in Malaysian context, the issue of mixing political and religion is the other spectrum not at this end and this article provide fodder to those who victimize religion not harness it usefully.

Perhaps Dr. Noor still have a lot of faith in his politico-religo community. He is really a bit idealistic. A good trait in intellectual, but not practical..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Noor is making very sound points here but he does not propose anything other than an intellectual way to move forward. Not concrete ones. This contribution is important of course but frankly, in Malaysian context, the issue of mixing political and religion is the other spectrum not at this end and this article provide fodder to those who victimize religion not harness it usefully.</p>
<p>Perhaps Dr. Noor still have a lot of faith in his politico-religo community. He is really a bit idealistic. A good trait in intellectual, but not practical..</p>
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