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	<title>Comments on: Burma carnage - call on ASEAN Parliaments to meet in emergency session within 3 days</title>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is being implied here is that American policies are couched in idealistic terms but in many instances are governed by realpolitik of not only national interests but private interests of her leader and cronies. For example the Iraq war is in part national interest (if you identify it with confronting extremism of Saddam of trying to rally muslim animosity against US or its ally Israel) but sullied with interest in controlling oil. (Bush had many oil baron friends in Texas). Who gets the big projects to reconstruct Bagdad - wasn't it not Harliburton associated with his VP Dick Cheney? For oil, the US even now props the Saudi Kingdom even though that regime spawns Islamic terrorism derived from teachings of Wahhibi Sect. Osama bin Ladin was Saudi, aint he? Even Taliban Afghanistan - there's a crucial pipeline conveying oil from the 3 Tans up North. In Panama - the strategic canal - the Marines just came, captured Noreiga and whisked him to Federal pentitentiary. On abuse of human rights, what about the well documented incidences of torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay? (The Americans even outsourced interrogation to go around this). I

US is a nation whose peoples do care for principles but does it extend to the people in power and lobbyist in Washington and the Pentagon? Primarily they are guided by self interest and other times national interests (what's good geopolitically for the US) and not often for principles alone. 

Myanmar is not the only country that kills its own people - there are many in Africa and South America. Is the US going to usurp UN's policing role, spill the blood of young Americans just to uphold the ideal of democracy when it has no vital strategic, economic or national interest in Burma? Not likely. Even in World War II the Americans entered the war not imply because of Democracy fight against Hitlers' totalitarianism Italy's facism and Japan's militarism per se but to deny these Axis from controlling the world's resources that after American victory, American Capitalism can harness and proper as leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is being implied here is that American policies are couched in idealistic terms but in many instances are governed by realpolitik of not only national interests but private interests of her leader and cronies. For example the Iraq war is in part national interest (if you identify it with confronting extremism of Saddam of trying to rally muslim animosity against US or its ally Israel) but sullied with interest in controlling oil. (Bush had many oil baron friends in Texas). Who gets the big projects to reconstruct Bagdad - wasn&#8217;t it not Harliburton associated with his VP Dick Cheney? For oil, the US even now props the Saudi Kingdom even though that regime spawns Islamic terrorism derived from teachings of Wahhibi Sect. Osama bin Ladin was Saudi, aint he? Even Taliban Afghanistan - there&#8217;s a crucial pipeline conveying oil from the 3 Tans up North. In Panama - the strategic canal - the Marines just came, captured Noreiga and whisked him to Federal pentitentiary. On abuse of human rights, what about the well documented incidences of torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay? (The Americans even outsourced interrogation to go around this). I</p>
<p>US is a nation whose peoples do care for principles but does it extend to the people in power and lobbyist in Washington and the Pentagon? Primarily they are guided by self interest and other times national interests (what&#8217;s good geopolitically for the US) and not often for principles alone. </p>
<p>Myanmar is not the only country that kills its own people - there are many in Africa and South America. Is the US going to usurp UN&#8217;s policing role, spill the blood of young Americans just to uphold the ideal of democracy when it has no vital strategic, economic or national interest in Burma? Not likely. Even in World War II the Americans entered the war not imply because of Democracy fight against Hitlers&#8217; totalitarianism Italy&#8217;s facism and Japan&#8217;s militarism per se but to deny these Axis from controlling the world&#8217;s resources that after American victory, American Capitalism can harness and proper as leader.</p>
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		<title>By: ablastine</title>
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		<dc:creator>ablastine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In deference to Uncle Lim and his great blog I shall not indulge in trading insults and name calling with others despite instigation. My comments were merely to suggest that American bashing by some people here is simply irrational. To certain writer, taking a favourable view to American foreign policies and supremacy is being foolish. The Americans just cannot do anything right can they. If they do nothing, it is because there is no oil or anything of national interest to them - like in Rwanda, Brundi and Congo. When they seriously do something and commit their military, they are accused of being hegemonical and wanting to colonise some country - like in Iraq. America seem to be implicated in every political tragedy in the world by senseless instigation. It makes me wonder why despite being such a rotten state so many people still want to live there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In deference to Uncle Lim and his great blog I shall not indulge in trading insults and name calling with others despite instigation. My comments were merely to suggest that American bashing by some people here is simply irrational. To certain writer, taking a favourable view to American foreign policies and supremacy is being foolish. The Americans just cannot do anything right can they. If they do nothing, it is because there is no oil or anything of national interest to them - like in Rwanda, Brundi and Congo. When they seriously do something and commit their military, they are accused of being hegemonical and wanting to colonise some country - like in Iraq. America seem to be implicated in every political tragedy in the world by senseless instigation. It makes me wonder why despite being such a rotten state so many people still want to live there.</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why some FOOLS love the American so much. Why not get a Green Card and migrate there? On the way there, think hard why the Americans would not bother about the genocide in Rwanda, Burundi, Congo ect...Because there is no oil ther, you bum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why some FOOLS love the American so much. Why not get a Green Card and migrate there? On the way there, think hard why the Americans would not bother about the genocide in Rwanda, Burundi, Congo ect&#8230;Because there is no oil ther, you bum!</p>
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		<title>By: ablastine</title>
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		<dc:creator>ablastine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why some FOOLS hate the American so much. What have the Americans  done to deserve such widespread condemnation. Is Iraq an American colony now? The last I heard the Americans wants to pull out of Iraq but if they pull out now what do you think will happen. You think they are enjoying themselves sending their soldiers to die at a rate of 5 a day. You think the dead Iraqis are killed by Americans or by the terrorists out to exact their dues from the Americans? 

I cannot see why it is so wrong to ask the Americans for help in Myanmar. Like it or not they are presently the strongest nation on earth and I certainly think they have the will and might to assist if they can be convinced that it necessary. You think ASEAN can do any damn thing short of shooting their mouth off. You think China, India or Russian will do anything more than expressing sympathy even if all the civilians are mowed down by the junta. It is completely within the capacity of Bush to send a couple of aircraft carriers to the coast of Burma or precision bomb the military junta. I would not belittle American resolve and I respect the American for being able to do what they think is right. If people hate the American so much, why send their children to study there. Why don't they send them to Pakistan or Iran for their education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why some FOOLS hate the American so much. What have the Americans  done to deserve such widespread condemnation. Is Iraq an American colony now? The last I heard the Americans wants to pull out of Iraq but if they pull out now what do you think will happen. You think they are enjoying themselves sending their soldiers to die at a rate of 5 a day. You think the dead Iraqis are killed by Americans or by the terrorists out to exact their dues from the Americans? </p>
<p>I cannot see why it is so wrong to ask the Americans for help in Myanmar. Like it or not they are presently the strongest nation on earth and I certainly think they have the will and might to assist if they can be convinced that it necessary. You think ASEAN can do any damn thing short of shooting their mouth off. You think China, India or Russian will do anything more than expressing sympathy even if all the civilians are mowed down by the junta. It is completely within the capacity of Bush to send a couple of aircraft carriers to the coast of Burma or precision bomb the military junta. I would not belittle American resolve and I respect the American for being able to do what they think is right. If people hate the American so much, why send their children to study there. Why don&#8217;t they send them to Pakistan or Iran for their education.</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/ap_on_re_as/myanmar
"Why don't the Americans come to help us? Why doesn't America save us?" said an onlooker who didn't want to be identified for fear of reprisal from the junta.

That exactly was what some stupid Iraqis asked for way back in 2003 and now, 4 years later, Iraq is an American colony with a million dead Iraqis and another 5 million as refugees. Why do some fools always regard Americans as angels? The coup d'etat by Suharto and the subsequent massacre of 3 million Indonesians was instigated by the Americans, as was the Chilean coup of 1971</description>
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&#8220;Why don&#8217;t the Americans come to help us? Why doesn&#8217;t America save us?&#8221; said an onlooker who didn&#8217;t want to be identified for fear of reprisal from the junta.</p>
<p>That exactly was what some stupid Iraqis asked for way back in 2003 and now, 4 years later, Iraq is an American colony with a million dead Iraqis and another 5 million as refugees. Why do some fools always regard Americans as angels? The coup d&#8217;etat by Suharto and the subsequent massacre of 3 million Indonesians was instigated by the Americans, as was the Chilean coup of 1971</p>
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		<title>By: Bobster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh, the leaders of this country can't even solve the rot in its own backyard and still want to pretend to be hero leading ASEAN against Myanmar, OIC against the west ... ? AAB table all pile up with files left over for yrs, making few min speech but spent weeks/months travelling around the world and the country heading towards an iceberg, AAB's binoculars zooming at wrong direction to be precised. 

What so different between Myanmar and us, except we rakyat don't involve in riots and demonstrations to show our grief like the Myanmar people did? Over there the militaries are the kings, over here the ministers/gomen officers/town councils are kings and queens, overide human right issues, laws and regulations. Sama je ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh, the leaders of this country can&#8217;t even solve the rot in its own backyard and still want to pretend to be hero leading ASEAN against Myanmar, OIC against the west &#8230; ? AAB table all pile up with files left over for yrs, making few min speech but spent weeks/months travelling around the world and the country heading towards an iceberg, AAB&#8217;s binoculars zooming at wrong direction to be precised. </p>
<p>What so different between Myanmar and us, except we rakyat don&#8217;t involve in riots and demonstrations to show our grief like the Myanmar people did? Over there the militaries are the kings, over here the ministers/gomen officers/town councils are kings and queens, overide human right issues, laws and regulations. Sama je &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: smeagroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>smeagroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Msia will be heading towards that direction soon. Maybe they can pick up some pointers from Myanmar instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Msia will be heading towards that direction soon. Maybe they can pick up some pointers from Myanmar instead.</p>
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		<title>By: izrafeil</title>
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		<dc:creator>izrafeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kalau tak silap Malaysai mengamalkan dasar tidak campur tangan, saya anggap dasar itu dasar sich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kalau tak silap Malaysai mengamalkan dasar tidak campur tangan, saya anggap dasar itu dasar sich</p>
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		<title>By: MALAYSIAN8</title>
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		<dc:creator>MALAYSIAN8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well u gotta ask PM how many government linked companies are currently trading with the juntas.u will probably get an inverse correlation between the level of trade with the level of protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well u gotta ask PM how many government linked companies are currently trading with the juntas.u will probably get an inverse correlation between the level of trade with the level of protest.</p>
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