Comments on: Turks do not want Turkey to be another Malaysia turning into an Islamic state

By: Qaowis

Qaowis — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:03:01 +0000

I’m new.. just registered 2 minutes ago.. and i’m not very fluent in english.. As a Muslim I’m quite disturbed to read some of the comment said that Turkish Muslims women who are wearing skirt and other turkish muslim who are easily drink wine is good Muslims as they are not fanatic with their religion..

I don’t know what are your perception and idea about what is religion mean. what is the purpose of one embracing a religion if he don’t want to obey the rules and regulation in that religion..

It is not fanatic.. it is obedience.. please do not justify something base on your own opinions. Each religion have its own approaches and explanation of that approaches. So, refer to the right source of each religion to know and understand that religion. Even though we are free to voice our opinion, not in religious things.

about Islam, do not judge Islam based on the Muslims because there is many Muslim is Muslim because they inherited it, not because they embrace it.. Especially in Malaysia.. Most Muslim think that Muslim in only for Malay.. When anyone became Muslim, they need to wear baju Melayu, sarong, baju kurung… speak Malay.. Wedding in Malay tradition (It is not Islamic way of wedding… It is created based on mixture of tradition).. and the most sensitive is, change name into Malay name… I repeat Malay name, not Muslim name.. That is why it is very difficult for other race to accept it.. Actually that is not what Islam thaught. Everyone are free to wear anything as long as it cover the aurat (part of body that is obligated to be cover), either it is cheongsam, sari or whatever.. you are free to use any name as long as it have good meaning.. for example Lim Jooi Soon (If I’m not mistaken) who have the same mean as arabic word, al Falah, or kejayaan in Malay. But there are many Malay so called Muslim name that have no meaning at all.. just Malay name.. some are having bad name like Watie which means female urinary tract (I do not the exact translation but in Malay, Lubang kencing wanita).. Is that a good name you think? so better mantain the chinese or Indian name that have good meaning.. that is what in Islam teaching.. give your children the good names… not Malay name…

so the conclusion here, do not judge Islam, based on what you see in Muslim today.. Refer to the right source.. If you feel it is not comfortable to see the Malay ustaz2, see Mr. Lim Jooi Soon, or Mr Shah Kirit Kakulal Govindji.. Not to embrace Islam, but to have the clear picture on how tolleratnce, rational and open minded the true Muslim is

By: johneye

johneye — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:22:21 +0000

sotong Says:

How could the Muslim and Non Muslim politicians in BN accept this unhealthy situation doing enormous harm to the country and betrayed the ordinary people?

One word - MONEY

By: hafizMZ

hafizMZ — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:49:41 +0000

Second borring
yea, relying on other people to spoon fed you about religion is like: monkey say, monkey do
and why bother people who want to practice what they believe in, funny! when people find it irritating, if you feel that Muslims women wearing headscarf are abnormal, or a Christian startg their day with a prayer is weird, let them be. It is after all a private matter!

By: borrring

borrring — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:50:37 +0000

We cannot look to Christians to learn what Jesus taught, nor can we look to the Muslims to determine what Muhammad taught.Don’t look at the actions of the believers….but look directly at the teachings & actions of two of the most influential persons who ever lived, Jesus & Muhammad. There’s a big difference between looking at the sources yourself & relying on other people to tell you what those sources say.

By: greatstuff

greatstuff — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:25:16 +0000

Thanks for the correction undergrad2, I meant P.Ramlee !
The Americans are generally known for overdoing it on their sleeves too, a bit on the phoney side with the putting on a good show for the audiences. I laugh my guts out when their politicians and tele-Evangelicists ( with huge influence ) get caught with their pants down, literally, at the brothel, for example the Jimmy Swaggart types, and then ask the Lord for forgiveness (for being caught I suppose?). The USA has indeed contradicted secularism and imposed a Christian State on it’s fairly gullible people.

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:19:32 +0000

“President Bush wears his religion on his sleeve. He starts each day in the White House with a prayer participated by his staff” - Undergrad2. It is slightly better than what Clinton did in the White House but then again it is the symbolism of what a head of state does, getting all his staff (even those not particularly religious) to start work with a prayer - does not this contradict the secular approach of American government of which Bush is head?

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:06:27 +0000

By the way, Greatstuff, who is P.J. Ramlee? I know of one Ramlee bin Puteh popularly known as P. Ramlee.

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:02:08 +0000

In a totally different context, President Bush wears his religion on his sleeve. He starts each day in the White House with a prayer participated by his staff. He has been criticized by the liberals - but then who is to stop him? It is after all a First Amendment right protected by the U.S> Constitution.

It is time God retakes the seat of power.

By: greatstuff

greatstuff — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:50:45 +0000

I wish people would not wear their religion on their sleeves- what’s the real point of it anyway? Everyone can survive well enough without having to display it to the extent they end up, in some cases, “shoving into the faces” of others. True, it can be argued that it’s within a person’s right to do so if they feel they must, but often this creates a separate identity, unnecesarily putting barriers between people and so why should religion be used in this way? We see it often in Malaysia- isn’t it rather odd with the Saudi’s walking around, cloaked in black with only a mere “slit’ for the eyes to look out from, whislt their husbands a few steps in front in their Armani jeans and sunglasses, free to displsy their buttocks to the public. Sorry, but it looks rather creepy and unnecessary in the same way we see people dressed like Osama bin Ladin, displaying a form of strictness or whatever message they are trying to convey to others (Al Arqam for example). The same goes for whatever Faith, imagine walking around Malaysia dressed like the Pope- I believe that would create a mild sensation or even an aggressive reaction? But, in the West the Osama “look-a-likes” might get a mere 2nd glance with little outward negative sentiment from the public. Sorry, but wearing one’s religion on the sleeve is unnecessary and should rather be a kept private matter.Thank you!