I have written to the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi asking him to invoke Article 125 of the Constitution to suspend Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim as Chief Justice and to establish a judicial tribunal to investigate the serious allegations of judicial misconduct against him as highlighted by the Lingam tape made public by Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim yesterday.
In my letter, I quoted Article 125(3) which reads:
“125 (3). If the Prime Minister, or the Chief Justice after consulting the Prime Minister, represents to the Yang di Pertuan Agong that a judge of the Federal Court ought to be removed on the ground of any breach of any provision of the code of ethics prescribed under Clause (3A) or on the ground of inability, from infirmity of body or mind or any other cause, properly to discharge the functions of his office, the Yang di Pertuan Agong shall appoint a tribunal in accordance with Clause (4) and refer the representation to it; and may on the recommendation of the tribunal remove the judge from office.”
The Lingam tape has sparked the latest crisis of confidence in the independence, impartiality and integrity of the judiciary stemming from grave judicial misconduct.
As the allegations of judicial misconduct are of very grave character affecting the perversion of justice, I also asked the Prime Minister to invoke Article 125(5) which reads:
“125(5), Pending any reference and report under Clause (3) the Yang di Pertuan Agong may on the recommendation of the Prime Minister and, in the case of any other judge after consulting the Chief Justice, suspend a judge of the Federal Court from the exercise of his functions.”
I said in my letter to Abdullah that with the appointment of an Acting Chief Justice, concerted efforts must be made to restore public confidence in the independence, impartiality, professionalism and integrity of the judiciary.
I also stressed that the time has not only come for the establishment of a Judicial Appointments and Promotion Commission to assist the Prime Minister to ensure an accountable, transparent and meritorious appointment and promotion of judges but also for a Royal Commission of Inquiry to propose institutional reforms to ensure that Malaysians enjoy a truly independent judiciary and a just rule of law.
Under Article 125(4), a judicial tribunal “shall consist of not less than five persons who hold or have held office as judge of the Federal Court, the Court of Appeal or a High Court or, if it appears to the Yang di Pertuan Agong expedient to make such appointment, persons who hold or have held equivalent office in any other part of the Commonweatlh, and shall be presided over by the member first in the following order, namely, the Chief Justice of the Federal Court, the President and the Chief Judges according to their precedence among themselves, and other members according to the order of their appointment to an office qualifying them for membership”.
#1 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 12:35 pm
IMPEACH HIM!!! Bring every wrong doer to book!
The Conference of Rulers must step in. Immediately. The Judiciary is no longer impartial. Justice is not being dispensed. Justice has been sold to those who can pay.
This is a new low for the stature and respectability of the Judiciary.
Palace of Injustice!!
#2 by funfac3 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 12:40 pm
The independence of the judiciary never existed, justice in Malaysia died when Tun Salleh Abas was removed from office.
#3 by justice_fighter on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 12:42 pm
Dear YB uncle Lim,
You can forget about sending any letter or appeal to this sleepy PM. You will only get one answer in return ‘tak tou’. You letter will be thrown into rubbish bin by his SIL.
Try sending the letter to Agong, you may have a better luck.
Take good care of yourself. The whole nation really needs a good politician like you.
Best wishes.
#4 by Libra2 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 1:04 pm
It seems many issues are being referred to the Agong. This is an indication of the people total loss of confidence in the government and its leaders.
Turning to the Agong is an act of desperation because the government is deaf. It treats the people with utter disdain.
#5 by mwt on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 1:44 pm
Uncle Kit,
In the next parliamentary sitting, I suggest you re table your substantive motion (check your media statement 14/6/00):
“That this House, under Standing Order 36(8),”EXPRESSES grave concern at the most serious allegations about judicial impropriety alleged in court in August in the Asian Wall Street Journal (AWSJ) defamation case, viz:
o that the 1994 judgment by Justice Datuk Mohtar Sidin in the Tan Sri Vincent Tan vs MGG Pillai defamation was ‘written in part by the plaintiff’s counsel, Dato V.K. Lingam, and initially typed by the said Dato V.K. Lingam’s secretaries, viz. one Jayanthi and Sumanthi’; that the judgment was corrected by the said Dato V.K. Lingam and the final draft dispatched’ to the judge ‘on floppy disk.’
o That Datuk Lingam placed Chief Justice Tun Eusoff Chin in his debt by getting their families to holiday together in New Zealand. The holiday involved flights together to luxury resorts in Queenstown and Christchurch, where Dato V.K. Lingam and the chief justice ‘posed for pictures with their arms around each other and with each other’s families.’ and in some more now.
Then it was not allowed to be debated and no action had been taken but now with this new video evidence, you can nail them for these serious charges of judicial impropriety. The old man (Dr M) then said “those behind the attempts were hoping that judges would become disillusioned, leading them into making unfavourable rulings against the government”
Even Rais Yaim (then a newbie Minister) said “”Such socializing is not in keeping with the proper behavior of a judicial personality, and this has been intimated to [the chief justice] in no uncertain terms.”
More details at
http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2007/09/reactions-video-clip-sensational.html
and pic of the “Spy Car†in front of Anwar’s office since his video revelation yesterday.
#6 by helpless on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 1:44 pm
Reading the news… hope we can keep the momentum… continue to “ignite” all those hidden bom…. planted by all inhuman ” corrupted government officer”…
YB, we support you…continue to explaining and express the ground of injustice.. continue……and continue…to complain…never give up. Otherwise the court is only punish the victim… praise to corrupted….
Lossing hope on “sleeping urgly PM” … turn it to constructive insultaion ..and continue……wake up the “Yang Tak Tau” PM…..or *^## him up..
Wish all Malaysian have a better tomorrow…to celebrate…and we will not be helpless….
#7 by Jamesy on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 1:46 pm
I knew Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim is of suspicious character in the highest rank of the Judiciary when he said that we should abolished the English Common Law and instituted it with Islamic Laws. He talked like a politician in this issue and one cannot help but wondered whether he is working with UMNO and its goal of establishing an Islamic State in the purest form.
Looks like the Lingam Tape cleared my suspicion.
Anyone has “other tape” recorded conversation between Tun Ahmad Fairuz and the PM on WHEN the nation be made an Islamic State in the purest form?
#8 by boh-liao on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 1:54 pm
Malaysia is truly unique.
Beware, the government will use OSA and ISA to lock up the messenger. The Lingam Tape is confidential and a state protected property.
Furthermore, in Malaysia, the common laws are not applicable to selected individuals. We can see the non-reaction from our ‘stupid-stupid’ Nazri, Umno Youths and Putra, SIL, MCA, Gerakan, etc over this issue, which is actually very common and going on all the time as far as they are conerned.
No issue. Period.
#9 by k1980 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 2:15 pm
God bless Lingam’s little lingam and may it rot off like little Yok Shan’s arm below her elbow
#10 by sotong on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 2:16 pm
There are people in high positions prepared to destroy the great institutions of the country to achieve their narrow and damaging political objectives.
#11 by dawsheng on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 2:18 pm
Now you all know why there is such thing as “heinous crime without criminal” in our country. What is next?
#12 by sotong on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 2:22 pm
Once could not imagine these ” highly respected ” people are prepared to grossly abuse their positions of trust, power and influence to destroy the country and her ordinary people.
#13 by ngahc on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 2:57 pm
Since 1988 judicial crisis in Malaysia, people have lost confident in the system that manipulated by TDM. He was able to mobilise judicial system to get rid of Anwar in a seemingly legitimate way. We need more video and witnesses to come forward and to expose 1988 incident as well as Anwar’s incident. Let the truth be out.
#14 by waterman on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 3:26 pm
Oh la la la la!
I never quite knew what it meant when Patrick Teoh coined the phrase “Shit caught in the fan” but now I surely do. I can even see them splashing all over the place now.
Oh la la la la!( a French expression responding to something bad that has happened)
Here is Patrick’s blog:-
http://niamah.blogspot.com/
Can someone scream…..
#15 by glokaltower on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 3:37 pm
the only thing that matter is how many seats the opposition can win in the general election. if it win more than its voice matter, if it wins little then its voice accounts for nothing. the government is so corrupted that it even not ashame of it and planning to continue its corrupted way as long as the opposition is so weak.
#16 by Cinapek on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 3:37 pm
This is what you get when you have a system where all the top law enforcement posts in the country such as the Attorney General, CJ and IGP are all recommended by the PM for appointment by the Agong. All these appointees are indebted to the PM and as such there will always be the risk of these appointees being manipulated. Once they are in such a system, it is not diificult to imagine that they will take the extra step to go over the edge and be the corrupted.
They are guilty, but the root cause is the system that encourages them. We should look at the American system where all these appointments are subjected to scrutiny by Congress as a check and balance on the President’s(or in our case, the PM) power of appointment.
#17 by grace on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 4:05 pm
This lingham fellow happened to have almost the same flight itinerary as Eusof Chin on holiday to New Zealand!!!
No wonder la????
Oop, Wasn’t MGG Pillai was sued to the tune of a few million ringgit by a tycoon. And was it thatLingham who appeared for the tycoon in the court under Eusof Chin?
Now, from this episode, more worms, dirty filthy worms will come crwlingout.
Yes, Ahmad Fairuz should resign if he really has honor!!!
#18 by grace on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 4:38 pm
Mr Lim and all DAP colleagues,
So how can we blame the mongolians for expressing concern over our judiciary.
The tapes speaks volumes of how certain wealthy and well connected can pull the judiciary strings.
In view of that I wonder what chances LKS and colleagues would have against those said lawyers and tycoons in the court?
#19 by ihavesomethingtosay on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 4:41 pm
Mr CJ, do the hornourable, go C4 yourself
#20 by twistedmind on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 4:51 pm
These are all old farts; their time of Judgment before God is coming soon! FYI, Judges too will be judged! :-)
#21 by badak on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 4:52 pm
From top to bottom all rotten to the core,big fish eat big ,Small fish eat small.What to do, blame the system ,BN,S SYSTEM that is.
Ask any lawyer they will tell you ,how coruppted the system is.But nobody is doing a damn to improve the system,Pay a few RM here or there evidence can go missing, Files can dissappear,Urine test can also show up nagative.What are we doing about it nothing…… How sad
#22 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 4:56 pm
YB, rest assured, you are 100% correct in your call and will be vindicated by events!
Yes, the Lingam Tape is still subject to authentication but unless it was doctored – and the question invariably arises here whether who would dare since it implicates V K Lingam, a lawyer well versed in suing for defamation – or unless V K Lingam is given to bouts of talking to himself on the mobile phone fantasying that he was talking to a high judicial officer on the other side of the line, there is, on the face of what has been disclosed, serious questions of judicial propriety involved when a high judicial officer discussed in private judicial appointments with a private practitioner on the basis of the latter being in the position to either represent or exert an influence through his client the Prime Minister’s position.
The powers-to-be cannot resolve it by having the Chief Justice cite Anwar for contempt of court – neither can VK Lingam sues parties revealing the tape for defamation – because for all these measures to be taken to push the scandal under the carpet, the aggrieved parties, whether it is Faizuz or VK Lingam, will still need to have recourse to the courts to determine if there was contempt of court or defamation by Anwar, the person who took the clip and critics. And this recourse is no more available because the courts are no more perceived impartial to provide legitimacy of fair judgment as they are by virtue of this clip perceived to be now stacked by many of the aggrieved parties’ own men!
Whereas the independence of judiciary has since 1988 been doubted, now with the latest disclosure of the clip by Anwar, the entire public confidence in the administration of justice, is shattered and now absolutely zero!
The implications extend far beyond the issue of Anwar’s corruption and sodomy charges. For example, they extend to (say) the present high profile Altantuya Shaariibuu’s murder case where people will scoff where will there be justice!
A society will be stable if conflicts within are resolved by a referee whose impartiality is accepted by all but when it is not accepted, as when it is compromised by the clip incident, which is pushed under the carpet, the whole system of administering justice and resolving conflict becomes chaotic and breaks down!
Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim (“Fairuzâ€Â) should, in the interest of public confidence in the administration of justice voluntarily put aside his robes, wears his shoes and step down from the pedestal pending an investigation of the “Lingam Tape†by an Independent Judicial Tribunal or a Royal Commission of Inquiry to either vindicate or implicate him.
If he does not do that, the Prime Minister would have to invoke Article 125 of the Constitution.
It is better he takes the initiative now – he should allow an independent investigation and let the chips be where they fall, so to speak – so that, at least, he gets the credit for it than try explore other options for graceful exit, which in my opinion, are not really viable without implicating his own position.
The group that works most closely with the judiciary is the Malaysian Bar . The Bar Council through its president, Ambiga Sreenevasan, was “appalled†and has already described the video as “Shocking and disturbingâ€Â. The Bar Council has already called for an emergency meeting on this Friday to address the issue. It is predictable that the Malaysian Bar will most likely pass resolutions calling for an independent enquiry and investigation on the mater of this tape and pending the outcome call for suspension of Fairuz –failing which the Malaysian Bar could or might call for its 13000 strong members to boycott the courts!
So for the PM, there is really no other options open for manoeuvre here, he can’t ignore it, as this would not go away and cannot wished away, and it is better that he seizes the initiative, whilst it is still his to seize……
#23 by Jeffrey on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 4:59 pm
Sorry typo error in 2nd para from top : should be – “serious questions of judicial IMPROPRIETY involved…”
#24 by k1980 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 5:07 pm
So for the PM, there is really no other options open for manoeuvre here, he can’t ignore it, as this would not go away and cannot wished away….
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He can always board his executive jet for 2 weeks of overseas holiday with Jean, eg yachting in the Mediterranean, or eating nasi kandar in Perth
#25 by grace on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 5:11 pm
Hey! It is not easy to doctor a recording of such length. Tian Chua did a very bad job on Najib’s picture.
We need real experts to do it!!
My bet is that the trecording is authentic. No hanky panky!!!
The jeads must roll.
What about our de facto Law Minister Nazri? Keeping his stinking mouth so tight???
#26 by k1980 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 5:15 pm
19/09: Statement by Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim on the VK Lingham and Tun Ahmad Fairuz Video Scandal
This video recording implicates the highest office of judiciary in a conspiracy to pervert the cause of justice through the machinations of a lawyer tainted with a scandalous history involving questionable dealings and conduct that brings disrepute to the legal and judicial professions.
In 1994, lawyer VK Lingham was photographed with the then Chief Justice Tun Eusoffe Chin holidaying in New Zealand under circumstances that would give rise to the inference of a serious breach of professional conduct on part of the lawyer and even more serious implications of unethical conduct on the part of the Chief Justice. Lingham was also implicated in the PricewaterhouseCoopers report which was tabled to Parliament following a thorough audit investigation of the Perwaja Steel scandal involving the loss of billions of ringgit of taxpayers’ money.
In this video, Lingham was seen and heard to be talking to the current Chief Justice of the Federal Court, Tun Ahmad Fairuz Abdul Halim wherein my name, among others, is specifically mentioned.
It is mentioned in the context of a conspiracy to influence the appointment of senior judges and pervert the cause of justice. In view of this, we have reason to believe that whatever has transpired in this exchange in 2002 had some bearing on the outcomes in a number of judicial proceedings, including mine.
The video also implicates Vincent Tan and Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor. The former is a businessman and gaming tycoon who was allegedly at the center of a scandal involving the abuse of the judicial process now known as the Ayer Molek case. The latter is a prominent Umno leader and a member of the Cabinet who was involved in the political conspiracy to remove me in 1998.
Such a scandalous expose, as indeed this video really is, only serves to corroborate our allegations of a political conspiracy of the highest level and corruption of the highest judicial office, seriously bringing into question the impartiality of judicial proceedings involving the affected parties. This is matter of utmost public importance and we demand the setting up of an Independent Tribunal to investigate this shameful and scandalous episode.
In this regard, we make a special appeal to the conference of rulers to continue to play their constitutionally entrenched role in safeguarding the rights of the people by exercising their discretionary powers in all matters within their jurisdiction.
ANWAR IBRAHIM
http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/letters.php?itemid=8355
#27 by waterman on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 5:15 pm
Any vital system taht fuctions without an independent check is like signing an open dated & blank cheque! Like sticking the head in a hot oven ie asking for trouble.
Paris
Waterman
Former internal auditor
of a Malaysian Financial Institution.
#28 by ihavesomethingtosay on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 6:48 pm
Will UMNOPOLOGIST now become JUDGE-O-POLOGIST?
#29 by ihavesomethingtosay on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 6:50 pm
perhaps even
LINGHAMPOLOGIST?
#30 by Chong Zhemin on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 6:55 pm
A political tsunami is coming very soon. This news will definitely blackout in the mainstream media.
but Why is Anwar keeping this video for so long? With this tape he could have got out from jail earlier! Will the GE be delayed because of this Lingam Tape? Looks like things are going to be interesting.
#31 by Raitman on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 7:05 pm
Dear Bar Council President,
Please pass a resolution this coming Friday to remove Lingam as a member of the Bar Council and stripped him from ever practising again as a lawyer. Lingam is not fit to be a lawyer, he is utterly a disgrace to the legal profession in Malaysia.
Please, do the members of the public justice and justice delay is justice denied as we no longer trust the courts to dispense us justice and protect our rights under the law. The courts are now controlled by the power-that -be and political know-how, whether in the government level, or in the business world or members of the legal profession, and the integrity, impartiality and independence of the judges viewed by the members of the public is at an ALL TIME LOW.
Please, please I beg you, don’t let THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE takes its course in the administration of justice.
Raitman.
#32 by mata_kucing on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 7:20 pm
Why are we all so surprised by the revelation? This type of things have been going on since Mahathir proclaimed himself Emperor. Not only the judiciary but every aspect of the BN administration is now rotten to the core. It has come to a point where it’s a free-for-all where the rich and the well connected can do anything they like. They are not even ashamed or remoseful of their criminal behaviour anymore. They think their sole responsibility of their official positions is to grab as much of the rakyat money as they can lay their dirty hands on. To hell with the rakyat. And we have a PM and his immediate family on top of the food chain. The saddest part is that Malaysians are still blissfully casting their votes for them. And pity the future generations who have to pay for for their fathers’ sin.
#33 by Libra2 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 7:22 pm
In Japan the CJ would have committed suicide.
In Malaysia his contact will be extended by another 3 years or longer. Maybe Lingam will also be elevated to the bench for his contribution to the country.
A shameless bunch of scums. Even dogs will shun these human beings.
A hypocrite CJ who talks about implementing Islamic Laws.
#34 by disapointed86 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 7:40 pm
Even the highest Judge also no different [deleted]. is it the way to show to our future generation? about the mongolian case..i believe ..the person involve should be sentenced to death by now if he is an ordinary person who dont have any connection with the government? all agree?
#35 by Justicewanted on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 8:28 pm
The Chief Justice has just turned a [deleted].
How can we rely on the law of the land when we have such a calibre of judge?
Is it time for a Royal Commission?
#36 by sheriff singh on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 8:51 pm
Looks like the Police and the ACA will be focusing their investigations on “WHO MADE THE TAPE RECORDING”?
Otherwise they and the politicians will all say its all “fabricated”, “circumstantial evidence”, “unrelaible”, “not proven beyond resonable doubts” and so on.
Don’t forget that many big names are involved and they have BIG bucks to solve problems.
The Opposition can only shout, but will they, this time, make things count?
Will the House of UMNO and BN fall?
#37 by ihavesomethingtosay on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 9:16 pm
LINGAMGATE
#38 by Godfather on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 9:34 pm
There is no honour amongst thieves. Neither the CJ, nor Mahathir, nor Vincent Tan, nor Tengku Adnan nor Lingam himself will admit to the authenticity of the video. AAB doesn’t have the guts to call for an Inquiry for fear of bringing down the house.
The solution ? Ban the mainstream media from discussing this issue, say that the police will investigate, and then it will go into a black hole. You think the average voter worries about the independence of the judiciary ? If they did, they would have taken to the streets the day Mahathir dismissed Salleh Abbas.
#39 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 10:10 pm
“Tun Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim (“Fairuzâ€Â) should, in the interest of public confidence in the administration of justice voluntarily put aside his robes, wears his shoes and step down from the pedestal ..” Jeffrey QC
The CJ should disrobe himself, put on his sarong and balek kampung tanam jagung.
#40 by verbal-lash on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 10:11 pm
Haven’t anybody noticed that in recent years, so many high-profile criminals have gotten free for crimes which were obviously committed by them? There is always an interesting twist to it all – in the beginning there is always evidence to prove that they did it, then towards the end something will happen that they will get away free because of insubstantial evidence, etc. etc. Sure that tells of our current CJ’s incompetence and crooked ways. Many of us are already skeptical whether Altantuya’s case will be fairly treated. The criminal may get off scot-free and poor Altantuya will turn in her grave, whatever that is left of her!! Then of course, there is this Islamic Law that the CH was talking about – a typical machine of the UMNO propoganda to turn Malaysia into an Islamic country, with total denial of the original constitution of Malaysia’s independence. This country belongs to us – the Malays, the Indians and the Chinese. We are born and bred here and have every right to its offerings – rich or poor, as all our ancestors fought blood for it. Don’t let the UMNOputras win the next GE and let us stand united in knowing what cause of action we should take to ensure the well-being of our future generations. Not all of us can afford to migrate and leave the country – we are masters of our children’s future and it is only in the upcoming GE that we show our powers as the rakyat, who shall stand for fairness and justice.
If we do not do something about it soon, our beloved country will fall. TDM, he is the engineer of the gradual fall of our country, and which will continue to fall even after his death only to be watched open-mouthed and powerless by a weak Pak Lah with Jeanne at his side.
#41 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 10:11 pm
Is that enough?? No.
We want to see more heads roll. Bring out the guillotine.
#42 by izrafeil on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 10:23 pm
Uncle Kit,
Valiant efforts, but we know the outcome already, like so many TUTUP BOTH EYES…. best we vote them out coming election, each of us must tell the truth to our friends, them to their friends and so and and so forth….lets save MALAYSIA
#43 by ktteokt on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 10:24 pm
If five high court judges can be removed on the same day by the executive, what justice is there? Where is the separation of powers? What is the executive doing with its hand in the judiciary?
#44 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 10:37 pm
This case brings to mind the appointment of Zaki Tun Azmi of Sharizat, Rashid & Lee to federal court judge. Zaki has been doing work for UMNO pro bono in all the election cases for decades – challenging the results of the elections when UMNO lost, declaring them void for purported infringements of the Election Act. It was always before Eusoff Chin when he was High Court judge.
What has Zaki, Mahathir, Daim, Tajuddin Ramli, Megat Junid and the Lord President who succeeded Salleh Abas who was unceremoniously booted out, got in common? Their alma mater. Vincent Tan follows.
Zaki is unsuitable to be even a judge let alone a federal court judge. His reputation as sugar daddy has been well known among the female lawyers and his staff.
Zaki like many others are part of a wider plot by UMNO to put sympathisers or UMNO loyalists to positions of power and influence on the bench. They act as foot soldiers for the UMNO leadership and UMNO heavyweights to protect their interests – including business interests.
V.K. Lingam is clearly the power broker.
#45 by undergrad2 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 10:43 pm
“What is the executive doing with its hand in the judiciary?” ktteokt
Rephrased. For far too long Mahathir has had his fingers up the ass of the judiciary. It is time to let go!
#46 by art-upon-mu on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 10:58 pm
Our screwed up country has been done in for a long, long time. And the beauty is we had top leaders yelling ‘bersih’, ‘cemerlang’ at their top voice to the entire nation and the world – while they were/are the ones screwing up everyone. TDM is the best – always slogans/speeches and actions were/are at opposite ends. He did them so well that our voters continued to support him for more than 20 years.
#47 by cherasusie on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 11:04 pm
i wonder how many people were wrongfully judged?
i cry for u, malaysia!
#48 by RealWorld on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 11:19 pm
Why is so many here jumping the gun? Firstly, the Lingam tape needs to be authenticated first to see if it was doctored.
Thats the rule of law.
#49 by RealWorld on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 11:23 pm
“You think the average voter worries about the independence of the judiciary ?” – Godfather
You think the average voter buys that so-called marriage of convenience deal between PKR DAP PAS?
You are right, the next GE will indeed be your Waterloo.
#50 by k1980 on Thursday, 20 September 2007 - 11:35 pm
Below is the transcript (draft) of the conversation between lawyer VK Lingham and current Chief Justice Tun Ahmad Fairuz (then Dato Fairuz and Chief Judge of Malaya – no. 3 in the hierarchy). Courtesy http://elizabethwong.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/map-of-a-dirty-judiciary/
The CJ said he is relative to now Agong, so he wants to stay on to 68, so, Tengku Adnan, I told Tengku Adnan, yesterday I had a meeting with him.
He said PM is already very angry with him, he said no problem he is going to make you acting err.. confirm your position as PCA, working very hard then working very hard to get Tan Sri Mokhtar as CJM.
Ah, we just keep it confidential. I am working very hard on it. Then there is a letter, according to Tengku, I am going to see him tomorrow, there is a letter sent to CJ, I mean Tan Sri Dzaiddin, that Datuk Heliliah, Datuk Ramli, Datuk Ramli and Datuk Ma’roop be made judges, and he rejected Dr Andrew Chui and apa itu Zainuddin Ismail lah. Because Zainuddin Ismail condemned your appointment and Tan Sri Mokhtar’s appointment.
And then you also, you seems to wrote a letter for the remaining five be confirmed as judges. As per our memo I discuss with Tun Eusoff Chin and we sent the same memo to PM.
I just want to get a copy letter that that has been done.
And then Tan Sri Dzaiddin said he is going to recommend six people for the court of appeal, but until today the letter hasn’t come to PM. He never discuss, but neither he has sent the letter to PM. Yes he has not sent. I know it is under the constitution for judges all that is your job Datuk to send, but we don’t want to make it an issue now.
Ah. Ok Actually I told Tengku Adnan to inform PM, PM to call you for a meeting. I organize it so that Tengku Adnan will call you directly. And then I got your number, I will tell him to call you directly to for you to meet PM lah. So should be ok, then ar.. correct correct, it is very important that the key players must be there.
Correct x3. correct x2. You know that the same problem that Tun Eusoff Chin has. He tried to do all this and yet he has run out of soldiers. He couldn’t do it because many are from the other camp. Last time was unfortunate because Tun Daim was doing everything sabotaging, otherwise how are things with you – everything is ok?. No, don’t worry. You know sometimes Tan Sri Vincent that half the time they are talking about judiciary rather than doing the work. But if I don’t do this part my work will be useless.
Ha ha ha. Ah yes.Correct x5, right x3 correct. Ah right susah. You see he has now up for six court of appeal judges, so that he can put his men before he retires.
Correct x3, ah and then ah, correct. But never-mind, I will do this, I will get Tengku Adnan to arrange for PM to call you and Tan Sri Vincent Tan for PM to call you. And you know why, actually, I am very grateful with Tan Sri Vincent Tan you know why, I brainwash you so much even I quarrel with him. One day I went to Vincent Tan house, I fire him at the night in his house. I said very hell if you don’t do this who will do it?
All these people Tun Eusoff Chin, Datuk Ahmad Fairuz, Tan Sri Zainon all fought for that. Then he called Tengku Adnan. Tengku Adnan he said, saya bukan Perdana Menteri Malaysia lah, you know. If the old man doesn’t want to listen to me, go to hell.
He quarreled with me. I said nevermind, nevermind, you talk to PM again tomorrow morning to put Datuk Ahmad Fairuz to CJM. So next day morning he went and he called me back 9.30 that he said PM has already agreed. So I said nevermind, we hope for the best. So I said no harm trying, the worst that it can happen is that you lose. Being the old man, he is 76 years old, he gets whispers everywhere, and then you don’t whisper, he get taken away by the other side. But, now PM is very alert because every time he gets letters from Tan Sri Zaidin, he called Tengku Adnan, he said discuss with Vincent, come and discuss.
Yes yes, ya. Correct x2, ya, but you see although I know PM, I am a lawyer in practice my views are.. I go through them, I go through them lah. Ah x4.
And then Zaidin will call them telling that you went saw PM and you make a big issue out of it. Oh ya, I think so, I think so.
Ok, fine x4 ok x4
Ah x2 correct x2. Now I heard Raja Aziz, Raja Aziz huh, spoke to my lawyer Thayalan, and another lawyer Ailan, in the high court, they have a case each other. So, Thayalan and Ailan asked Raja Aziz, how is Tan Sri Wan Adnan?
He said he is on his way down. But you know what is the shocking thing he said? Datuk Fairuz became CJM. He overruled everybody, in three months time, he is going be made VCA, and 6 months time he is going to be CJ. He said he cant think he shocked. He told us.
Ha, it seems that they are going to organize a campaign to run you down. But you just keep quite don’t say anything. Even the press asked, you said I leave it to God, that’s all. Don’t say. I really like your message. You said you work very hard, what can I do? I leave it to God.
That’s the best answer datuk that you can ever be.
Ah… I will also get Tan Sri to remind PM to put a Tan Sri ship this year lah. This will elevate you, you know.
Oh yes x4. ha. XX got so fast, Tan Sri Chong waited for whole year to get Tan Sri ship.
Ah.. My god that’s why, ah. Correct x4, ya x4 right x3 correct x2
Don’t worry, we organize this. If Tan Sri Vincent and Tengku Adnan want to meet you privately, they will, I will call you. We organize in a private arrangement, in a very unusual place.
No don’t worry, Datuk, I know how much you suffer for Tun Eusoff Chin. And Tun said Datuk Ahmad Fairuz 110% loyalty. We want to make sure our friends are there for the sake of the PM and the sake of the country.
Not for our own interest, not for our own interest. We want to make sure the country come first. Well, you suffered so well, so much you have done. For the election, Wee Choo Keong, everything. How much, no body would have done all these.
Yes, you know. Good lah. Don’t worry. I am constantly working on this.
Ya ya, don’t worry x2. We work hard on this. And Datuk, and then if Tan Sri Vincent and Tengku Adnan want to see you, I will organize it in such a confidential place.
Ok Datuk very best. God bless you and your family.
Ok. Thank you thank you. Bye.