Comments on: Seven shouts of “Merdeka” in Parliament this morning without support from a single BN MP — does it mean BN MPs disloyal, anti-national and unpatriotic? http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/ for Malaysia Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:43:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: ktteokt http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-47482 ktteokt Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:38:50 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-47482 I thought BN only differentiated Islam into BN Islam and PAS Islam, but now it looks like they have differentiated our Malaysian Independence into BN Independence and Opposition Independence!!! I thought BN only differentiated Islam into BN Islam and PAS Islam, but now it looks like they have differentiated our Malaysian Independence into BN Independence and Opposition Independence!!!

]]> By: Lee Chee Lek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-47074 Lee Chee Lek Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:42:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-47074 Since when did Parliament became Stadium Merdeka. Maybe next year all the YBs should attend celebration in Stadium Merdeka and shout all they want, show all they want so that soon TAB will be forgotten and those who shout the loudest will be remembered forever. Can I also shout in the train, bus, school, mosque, temple, road, police station, fire station, hospital etc and all those who don't stand and shout are considered not sane and unpatriotic. Also not racists and religious enough? Since when did Parliament became Stadium Merdeka. Maybe next year all the YBs should attend celebration in Stadium Merdeka and shout all they want, show all they want so that soon TAB will be forgotten and those who shout the loudest will be remembered forever.
Can I also shout in the train, bus, school, mosque, temple, road, police station, fire station, hospital etc and all those who don’t stand and shout are considered not sane and unpatriotic. Also not racists and religious enough?

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46948 undergrad2 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:49:20 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46948 The MPAJA became the military arm of the Malayan Communist Party (MCP) when the MCP was banned. By walking out of the Baling Peace Talks, and by refusing to lay down their arms Chin Peng cast doubts on his loyalty to an independent government. The rest is history. The MPAJA became the military arm of the Malayan Communist Party (MCP) when the MCP was banned. By walking out of the Baling Peace Talks, and by refusing to lay down their arms Chin Peng cast doubts on his loyalty to an independent government.

The rest is history.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46946 undergrad2 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:44:46 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46946 Of course, many Malays collaborated with the Japanese against the colonial power "in return for their country's liberation." The Japanese have been fighting the Chinese for centuries; and before the outbreak of the 2WW in 1941, they have been fighting the Chinese in China in the late 1930s. They have always looked down on the Chinese, regarding them as sub-humans unfit to walk in their presence - useful only as guinea pigs. The Jews had their Auschwitz; the Chinese had theirs long before that. Thousands of innocent Chinese were brutally murdered during the Japanese occupation of Malaya in Singapore. To survive the Japanese indiscriminate killing, the men had to hide in the jungles and soon formed the para military force which later came to be known as the MPAJA (Malayan People Anti-Japanese Army). So it is not a simple of "who supported, who collaborated and who fought the Japanese" - but rather why? Of course, many Malays collaborated with the Japanese against the colonial power “in return for their country’s liberation.” The Japanese have been fighting the Chinese for centuries; and before the outbreak of the 2WW in 1941, they have been fighting the Chinese in China in the late 1930s. They have always looked down on the Chinese, regarding them as sub-humans unfit to walk in their presence - useful only as guinea pigs. The Jews had their Auschwitz; the Chinese had theirs long before that.

Thousands of innocent Chinese were brutally murdered during the Japanese occupation of Malaya in Singapore. To survive the Japanese indiscriminate killing, the men had to hide in the jungles and soon formed the para military force which later came to be known as the MPAJA (Malayan People Anti-Japanese Army).

So it is not a simple of “who supported, who collaborated and who fought the Japanese” - but rather why?

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46945 undergrad2 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:29:52 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46945 To the Japanese "Jap" is a derogatory term. Please don't use it! To the Japanese “Jap” is a derogatory term. Please don’t use it!

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46905 k1980 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:02:54 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46905 <b>To know who the patriots really are, open your history books on the Jap invasion of Malaya and find out for yourselves who collaborated with the invaders and who took up arms to resist them</b> To know who the patriots really are, open your history books on the Jap invasion of Malaya and find out for yourselves who collaborated with the invaders and who took up arms to resist them

]]> By: chloo http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46902 chloo Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:39:41 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46902 Just "tutup satu mata", then all will be ok, if still cannot then " tutup dua mata" lor... Shouting MERDEKA, i don't think the feel good factor is there anymore. A few years back, you use to see most cars flying the flag, but this year, maybe only 1 in 10. Just “tutup satu mata”, then all will be ok, if still cannot then ” tutup dua mata” lor…

Shouting MERDEKA, i don’t think the feel good factor is there anymore. A few years back, you use to see most cars flying the flag, but this year, maybe only 1 in 10.

]]> By: anakbaram http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46841 anakbaram Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:57:36 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46841 If outward expression, like shouting "Merdeka" seven times is a measure of one's patriotism then, a lot of us are not patriots. But we are the real movers and shakers who brought prosperity and quality to this nation. We do it by our contribution in our places of works and our homes. But the "Mat Rempits" of Malaysia on the other hand go around with giant Malaysian flag on their stupid machine while they race around town. They shout "Mardeka" even more than seven times. Are we saying that these brats are patriots than??? If outward expression, like shouting “Merdeka” seven times is a measure of one’s patriotism then, a lot of us are not patriots. But we are the real movers and shakers who brought prosperity and quality to this nation. We do it by our contribution in our places of works and our homes. But the “Mat Rempits” of Malaysia on the other hand go around with giant Malaysian flag on their stupid machine while they race around town. They shout “Mardeka” even more than seven times. Are we saying that these brats are patriots than???

]]> By: BNseedell http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46837 BNseedell Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:23:04 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/09/03/seven-shouts-of-%e2%80%9cmerdeka%e2%80%9d-in-parliament-this-morning-without-support-from-a-single-bn-mp-%e2%80%93-does-it-mean-bn-mps-disloyal-anti-national-and-unpatriotic/#comment-46837 Dear YB Lim, I agree with YoutubePower's suggestion. The YouTube application is a powerful campaigning tool which you and members of the DAP should fully utilised or explored. I have watched you and others (such as Jeff Ooi and your beloved and brave son) speaking in the Chinese Assembly Hall (KL) in defence of Wee Meng Chee via YouTube from overseas. I really enjoy the speeches and images of all the speakers. Even American presidential aspirants are using YouTube to help in campaigning. Why not DAP and other opposition parties? This is one way of holding cyber ceramah -- wihtout the need to apply for any permit from the police. Right? I suggest that all opposition parties unite under the single name of Barisan Bangsa Malaysia (BBM) for the next general election. Make use of YouTube networking -- many people like me will help in designing pro-opposition parties' messages and making similar slideshows and video clips and posting them in YouTube and SlideShare applications and blogs. The wind is blowing toward the opposition front. Don't overlook this reality. Get prepared early for the next general election -- get involved actively with YouTube's networking. It will work well for your great party. Please let us have the opportunity to see more of DAP's video clips via YouTube. Post your activities and speeches in YouTube for the benefits of those who are unable to attend your forums or ceramah.Don't forget thosue of your supporters who are living and working overseas -- thay can influence their friends, relatives and family members in Malaysia. Well, this time around, BNseedell ..... Dear YB Lim, I agree with YoutubePower’s suggestion. The YouTube application is a powerful campaigning tool which you and members of the DAP should fully utilised or explored.

I have watched you and others (such as Jeff Ooi and your beloved and brave son) speaking in the Chinese Assembly Hall (KL) in defence of Wee Meng Chee via YouTube from overseas. I really enjoy the speeches and images of all the speakers. Even American presidential aspirants are using YouTube to help in campaigning. Why not DAP and other opposition parties? This is one way of holding cyber ceramah — wihtout the need to apply for any permit from the police. Right?

I suggest that all opposition parties unite under the single name of Barisan Bangsa Malaysia (BBM) for the next general election. Make use of YouTube networking — many people like me will help in designing pro-opposition parties’ messages and making similar slideshows and video clips and posting them in YouTube and SlideShare applications and blogs.

The wind is blowing toward the opposition front. Don’t overlook this reality. Get prepared early for the next general election — get involved actively with YouTube’s networking. It will work well for your great party.

Please let us have the opportunity to see more of DAP’s video clips via YouTube. Post your activities and speeches in YouTube for the benefits of those who are unable to attend your forums or ceramah.Don’t forget thosue of your supporters who are living and working overseas — thay can influence their friends, relatives and family members in Malaysia.

Well, this time around, BNseedell …..

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