Comments on: Hanif’s “40% senior cops corrupt” allegation – Cabinet should apologise for disregarding it and make amends tomorrow

By: lkp

lkp — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:30:00 +0000

refer to the corruption index published by those int’l org….you know that we are just trying very hard to fight corruption, from the PM to those on the street traffice policemen…but how effective, remain a topic during the tea time and election campaign…life goes on !!!!!

By: kaybeegee

kaybeegee — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:07:00 +0000

Musa, many years ago, if you remember your Polis diaRaja Malaysia solved the football match fixing saga in Malaysian football by recording statements and than condemning some footballers to restricted residence, thus without charging them in court and branding them as corrupt. Do the same for the men in your force who are corrupt. record statements and restrict them under the restricted residence act. Otherwise charge Haniff for defamation.You threaten ordinary citizens with ARREST, NOW GET YOUR MEN WHO ARE ALLEGED TO BE CORRUPT or forever hold your tongue. Why were you promoted IGP over others more senior and with far better paper qualifications than you?

By: kaybeegee

kaybeegee — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:14:50 +0000

This IGP became IGP because, the then PM thought he was fit for the post. First non university graduate IGP after Haniff.

By: Incredulity : Bolehland

Incredulity : Bolehland — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:48:10 +0000

[...] Lah, you promised us a less corrupt nation when you took over. Instead, we are more corrupt than ever, dropping a spot in international rankings for each year of your reign to 43rd this [...]

By: AhPek

AhPek — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:53:28 +0000

“No country can stem out corruption because it is the corollary of power.When there is power there is abuse of power otherwise referred to as corruption.” undergrad2.
And if I may add there are no countries that are absolutely free from corruptions and also that there are countries more corrupt than others.How corrupt a country is,can often be pretty accurately assessed when a person walks thro the customs and immigration sections upon arrival to that country.That is probably why corruption indices are drawn up as part of informations essential to help in the decision making process whether it is worth the risk of putting one’s money in a particular country.We used to be a place where FDI loves to seek its home in and Malaysia’s corruption could have been one of the main reosons why FDI is now taking flight with ever increasing speed.
What is most distressing for the ordinary Joe in the street is to read the response of our TOP POLICEMAN to Tun Haniff’s comment that 40% of our senior police officers can be arrested for corruptions without further investigation based simply on the lifestyles.Tun is not anybody,he is some prominent man in society and also a former IGP.His allegation is a damning indictment and it is inappropiately met by Musa’s ‘produce proof’ rebuttal.He thinks that Tun’s allegation has no grounds unless he proves them guilty otherwise they are innocent.It obviously did not occur to him that under such a situation it is vitally urgent for him to restore public’s confidence in his force. If it did Musa would have taken Haniff’s words by assuming those officers alleged to be guilty unless proven innocent.
But then again what do you expect from this IGP who rejects IPCMC?Tells a story more about him than anybody else.

By: badak

badak — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:03:49 +0000

Corruption to the B.N goverment is nothing new,because there is no real affort in getting rid of it,The B.N .GOVERMENT can only stay in power because of corruption,just look at the way they used their corrupt ways to win the election,yes we always fall for it. Please dont blame the E.C because we are talking of their bread and butter here,they know if they stand up they will be out of a job,during by – election we all can see for ourself the corrupt ways they use to win,but what can i do mine is only one vote may god help us all

By: Rocky

Rocky — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:35:31 +0000

tun hanif has a very high standing among the people and his words are given lots of weight. Now current IGP ask him to show proof. What is IGP standing among the people? he has admitted he can’t even control his people. Tun Hanif has served with distinction and the police force under his leadership was much better and the crime rate was much lower and we Malaysian never lived under current type of fear under Tun Hanif leadership.

So my message is IGP,why don’t you show us that 40% of your force, okay make it 20% of your force is not corrupt.You show it lo!!!!

Daulat Tuanku!!!

By: dawsheng

dawsheng — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:39:08 +0000

There are first class, second and third class citizen, among these they are separated by race, Malay, Chinese, Indian and the others, policeman in our country treat them differently.

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:21:48 +0000

“..are the majority of those who rant criticise and condemn corruption prepared to repudiate it if offerred the opportunity? ” Jeffrey QC

Yet to be seen, Jeffery. Yet to be seen. Power corrupts. It is easy for those without power to talk against the abuse of power. It is not that easy when you have that power yourself.

Having said, the fact that corruption can never be stemmed out completely, is no reason why we should not take steps to make those responsible for the mess, accountable for their actions. Billions are being lost and taxpayers are left to pick up the tab. It is not right.

By: ktteokt

ktteokt — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:47:36 +0000

The Malaysian policemen can be seen wearing a tag with these words on it “SAYA ANTI-RASUAH”. Shame on them, this is as good as slapping their own faces when the police are still rampant on accepting bribes. I think if at all they claim to be anti-corruption, they should tattoo these words on their forehead to show each and every Malaysian they mean what they say!

By: AntiRacialDiscrimination

AntiRacialDiscrimination — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:12:39 +0000

Please give them a break.
They need all the manpower and resources to deal with Wee Meng Chee, that is the TOP priority.
Corruption in police force? It is just a small matter. Don’t expect the Prime Minister to look at it, he is busy sleeping, zzzzzzzzzzzz………..

By: madmix

madmix — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:10:50 +0000

Have you ever noticed that most criminals convicted and sent to prison are penniless people with no connections. There are many criminals out there who are well off and most of their crimes can be “kowtim” with money.

By: Cinapek

Cinapek — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:59:15 +0000

All these revelations shows how small minded all these people are. Now that they have been bypassed, they feel slighted and start making all kinds of allegations. If you really think that there is such widespread corruption in the PDRM (and I believe there is) then with the position you enjoy, you should be able to push for action more forcefully. Telling the public is useless. What can we do to force Pak Lah’s hands? He of the “elegant silence” and “tak tau” culture? If you are a citizen with concience and have the means to make changes, then you should do it and not stop at talking only.

But I have to concede that this has succeeded to force more worms out of the woodwork when the current IGP himself said that there are also a lot of corrupted civil servants. And I have the same quesation for the IGP. At your level, you can do the right thing to correct this so why aren’t you doing sometthing instead of just talking?

And my question to Pak Lah. Both the former IGP and the current IGP has gone public with the information that there is widespread corruption in the PDRM and the civil service. So what are you doing about it? Burying your head in the sand won’t help and your dereliction of duty would be your lasting legacy.

By: Jimm

Jimm — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:40:28 +0000

He was part of the system too…
His family members are enjoying well now from the system too…
His current involvement with the business world also benefitted from the system too…
His title saves him from any form of execution against his past doings also because of the system too…

Please, TUN … Please
Don’t share anymore of your ‘concerned’ opinion with the public because of another propaganda plan in making to make changes in the current government structure, just to safeguard your and your fellow team interest in wealth and power game.

Don’t share that you are doing it for the sake of this country future and certain corrective measures are needed now.
You are part of that system that brought you to where you are now.
Don’t you learn from all the wrong doings that you opted for in the name of the game back then.
Don’t you regain yourself in religion dignity and practice the faith accordingly to repend.
Don’t share anymore of the truth in you that you have been denying when you supposed to uphold during yor tenure in the system.

Enough is enough…
Your time have been well spent and rewarded.
Don’t make a comeback as you have already dwelled in the system.
No amount of pardon will cleansed them in the eyes of Almighty.
Safe your thoughts and pray more often to lessen your punishment from Almighty in your remaining days.
God Bless.

By: Woody

Woody — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:31:54 +0000

Only 40%?????

Target not reach yet, should be at least 70% to reflect the racial composition.

Still have 30% to go.

By: Libra2

Libra2 — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:26:53 +0000

What prove does he want? “Corruption” is written on the faces of every policeman, UMNO politicians and civil servants.
It is in their blood. It is written in their bank accounts. It is written on the walls of their homes. It is written on their souls.

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:51:07 +0000

What I am saying is that is there a point to condemn and criticise this UMNO politician and that if we’re going to shut up if given same opportunity personally to plunder and rich fopr ourselves? Where is the moral standard here? I agree that there may be a few who are exceptional in moral standards and would resist the blandishment of power and money but necessarily they must be the smallest of minority. Taking the general picture however, are the majority of those who rant criticise and condemn corruption prepared to repudiate it if offerred the opportunity? Do the majority have a higher moral standard than those they criticise or is itnot a dog in the manger situation?

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:44:46 +0000

That’s absolutely correct but most adopt holier-than-thou attitude. Corruption is condemned because SOMEONE ELSE is making money based on unfair advantage of power at one’s expense but would this condemnation equally apply as a standard if one is placed in vantage position (due to connections and power relations) to partake in corruption (without getting caught) and get rich for one’s ownself and family members at the expense of OTHERS?

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:12:49 +0000

No country can stem out corruption because it is the corollary of power. Where there is power there is abuse of power otherwise referred to as ‘corruption’.

By: undergrad2

undergrad2 — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:08:44 +0000

There was corruption in the police force long before the time of Haniff. It is regrettable that Hanif failed to mention the extent of corruption even then. Today corruption has become so endemic that it threatens whatever public confidence that still remains of these men in blue who have been entrusted to maintain public order aided by a judiciary dedicated to enforcing the rule of law.

Who executed the IGP before Haniff? Why? Who wanted him dead? Don’t tell me it is the Communists. The Emergency ended a decade earlier.