Comments on: Merdeka Dialogue: Whither Bangsa Malaysia? http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/ for Malaysia Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:03:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Malaysia BERSIH Rally - Page 2 - Political Forum - US & World Political Discussion Forums http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-56121 Malaysia BERSIH Rally - Page 2 - Political Forum - US & World Political Discussion Forums Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:29:28 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-56121 [...] Mahathir's Prescriptions for Malaysia Winter97 Being Unreasonable: KJ John: Whither Malaysia? Lim Kit Siang » Blog Archive » Merdeka Dialogue: Whither Bangsa Malaysia? [...] [...] Mahathir’s Prescriptions for Malaysia Winter97 Being Unreasonable: KJ John: Whither Malaysia? Lim Kit Siang » Blog Archive » Merdeka Dialogue: Whither Bangsa Malaysia? [...]

]]> By: ReformMalaysia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44731 ReformMalaysia Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:21:42 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44731 Bangsa Malaysia? Bangsa Malaysia means: **all Malaysian citizen must be treated equally **Let the best people lead the country regardless of the race and religion **there should be equal opportunity in education, economy & politics **Freedom of speech and expression **religious freedom **Same standard of Law applicable to everyone **We can have a Chinese, Indian , Iban, Kadazan, Senoi or Jakun prime minister if he/she is the best person to lead the country **civil services position should not be 'reserved' for certain race only... or else, Bangsa Malaysia never exist Bangsa Malaysia?

Bangsa Malaysia means:

**all Malaysian citizen must be treated equally
**Let the best people lead the country regardless of the race and religion
**there should be equal opportunity in education, economy & politics
**Freedom of speech and expression
**religious freedom
**Same standard of Law applicable to everyone
**We can have a Chinese, Indian , Iban, Kadazan, Senoi or Jakun prime minister if he/she is the best person to lead the country
**civil services position should not be ‘reserved’ for certain race only…

or else, Bangsa Malaysia never exist

]]> By: wtf2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44614 wtf2 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:25:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44614 Bangsa Malaysia???? When Umno stop exhorting race, religion into every sentence during election and their "supreme council meeting". Maybe the dialogue should discuss if this can happen??? Bangsa Malaysia????
When Umno stop exhorting race, religion into every sentence during election and their “supreme council meeting”. Maybe the dialogue should discuss if this can happen???

]]> By: St0rmFury http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44560 St0rmFury Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:49:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44560 Mr. Lim, I'm only 22 so I hope I won't be out of place at this dialogue. I have already reserve a place but I would like to ask this in advance. Can I take a picture with you at the event? I would love to add it to my friendster account. And how should I address you? I'm still wet behind the ears when it comes to formalities like this. Sincerely, William Leong Mr. Lim, I’m only 22 so I hope I won’t be out of place at this dialogue. I have already reserve a place but I would like to ask this in advance. Can I take a picture with you at the event? I would love to add it to my friendster account. And how should I address you? I’m still wet behind the ears when it comes to formalities like this.

Sincerely,
William Leong

]]> By: Mr. http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44545 Mr. Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:44:12 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44545 Mr. Speaker err Blogger Mr. Lim! What can we expect from this dialogue? Is there a clear cut agenda behind it from which affirmative action can be followed up with? Or is it more of a general dialogue... for expression of ideas/grouses ? Personally do prefer if there is a set agenda, that the attendees can be guided on ... specific issues that we can work together on/towards. I think what i meant was we need a leader . . . how can we come together as one and effectively be a force (besides casting votes) how can we exert pressure and get our msg through and acknowledged & leading towards a compromise ? Mr. Speaker err Blogger Mr. Lim! What can we expect from this dialogue? Is there a clear cut agenda behind it from which affirmative action can be followed up with?
Or is it more of a general dialogue… for expression of ideas/grouses ?
Personally do prefer if there is a set agenda, that the attendees can be guided on … specific issues that we can work together on/towards.
I think what i meant was we need a leader . . .
how can we come together as one and effectively be a force (besides casting votes) how can we exert pressure and get our msg through and acknowledged & leading towards a compromise ?

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44493 k1980 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:40:13 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44493 There's something Rotten in the State of Denmark, errr... Malaysia Hamlet creates a parallel between the diseased state of Denmark and a diseased body. His thesis seems to be that Claudius' usurpation is an offense against God and that this brings a disease to the whole nation. Dr Mahathir renewed his attack on Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad's administration and his mainstream media today, telling bloggers, web-site owners and on-line writers in Putrajaya during a 3-hour meeting that, paraphrasing Shakespeare, "There is something rotten in the state of Malaysia." "If you read the mainstream media, everything smells like roses ... but there's a definite stench from the rot in the current administration, in politics, social as well as economic matters. "Take the crime rate, for example. There are people who will not leave the safety of their homes. And according to former chief of police Tun Haniff Omar in his column in the Star, the police force is divided into two: - one led by the IGP & the other by a police director and a deputy minister." On the economy, Dr M said the media have painted an extremely optimistic picture of Malaysia, with the announcement of mega projects and economic corridors. "But on the ground, nothing is happening." http://rockybru.blogspot.com/2007/08/there-is-something-rotten-in-state-of.html VW offer to buy Proton's stake for RM1? http://rockybru.blogspot.com/2007/08/did-vw-offer-to-buy-protons-stake-for.html There’s something Rotten in the State of Denmark, errr… Malaysia
Hamlet creates a parallel between the diseased state of Denmark and a diseased body. His thesis seems to be that Claudius’ usurpation is an offense against God and that this brings a disease to the whole nation.
Dr Mahathir renewed his attack on Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad’s administration and his mainstream media today, telling bloggers, web-site owners and on-line writers in Putrajaya during a 3-hour meeting that, paraphrasing Shakespeare, “There is something rotten in the state of Malaysia.”
“If you read the mainstream media, everything smells like roses … but there’s a definite stench from the rot in the current administration, in politics, social as well as economic matters. “Take the crime rate, for example. There are people who will not leave the safety of their homes. And according to former chief of police Tun Haniff Omar in his column in the Star, the police force is divided into two: - one led by the IGP & the other by a police director and a deputy minister.”
On the economy, Dr M said the media have painted an extremely optimistic picture of Malaysia, with the announcement of mega projects and economic corridors. “But on the ground, nothing is happening.”
http://rockybru.blogspot.com/2007/08/there-is-something-rotten-in-state-of.html

VW offer to buy Proton’s stake for RM1?
http://rockybru.blogspot.com/2007/08/did-vw-offer-to-buy-protons-stake-for.html

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44473 undergrad2 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:47:03 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44473 Whither Bangsa Malaysia?? Bangsa Malaysia has long withered. Whither Bangsa Malaysia?? Bangsa Malaysia has long withered.

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44437 k1980 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:29:29 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44437 Bought at RM2 psf, and sold at RM25 psf. Who's the Bangsa Menipu and who's the Bangsa Tertipu? http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/index.php?itemid=7277 In the early 90s, the Selangor state government gifted 405 hectares of land to some fishermen's co-operative. The co-op sold the land to some company (whose current chairman is the treasurer of UMNO) for an average price of RM2 per square foot..This same company sold that land to the Port Klang Authority for RM25 per square foot. PKA also granted this company a contract to develop that same land. PKA is now in debt to the tune of RM5 billion. With no source of revenue to pay off this amount, it goes to the government to pay off its loans. This isn't an isolated event. Almost every other day scandals like this break. But still, not everyone cares about this. I mean, maybe the government is just so stupid that they keep investing in projects that are bound to fail, right? Let's not kid ourselves, folks. This is not a government that is just a bunch of nice bumbling fools...I really don't see how you can attribute these disasters, these scandals, to just government ignorance. Bought at RM2 psf, and sold at RM25 psf. Who’s the Bangsa Menipu and who’s the Bangsa Tertipu?
http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/index.php?itemid=7277
In the early 90s, the Selangor state government gifted 405 hectares of land to some fishermen’s co-operative. The co-op sold the land to some company (whose current chairman is the treasurer of UMNO) for an average price of RM2 per square foot..This same company sold that land to the Port Klang Authority for RM25 per square foot. PKA also granted this company a contract to develop that same land. PKA is now in debt to the tune of RM5 billion. With no source of revenue to pay off this amount, it goes to the government to pay off its loans.

This isn’t an isolated event. Almost every other day scandals like this break. But still, not everyone cares about this. I mean, maybe the government is just so stupid that they keep investing in projects that are bound to fail, right? Let’s not kid ourselves, folks. This is not a government that is just a bunch of nice bumbling fools…I really don’t see how you can attribute these disasters, these scandals, to just government ignorance.

]]> By: k1980 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44424 k1980 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:48:55 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/15/merdeka-dialogue-whither-bangsa-malaysia/#comment-44424 <b>Mirror, mirror on the wall Who is the poorest of 'em all?</b> It is said that despite Indian Malaysians making up about 8% of the country’s population, they own less than 2% of its national wealth. The community also faces severe problems of hardcore poverty and crime. Thousands of our Indian-Malaysian brethren grouped under the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) wanted to see the PM last Sunday. Hindraf chairperson P Waytha Moorthy later read out the content of the resolution, which was drawn up in a forum on July 30, where some 1,000 people unanimously supported the move to submit the resolution to Abdullah. Among the points that were highlighted in the resolution are: * End Malay privileges on the 50th Independence celebration * Call for affirmative action plans for all poor Malaysians * Pass Protection of Ethnic Minority Malaysian Indian Act 2007 * All Tamil schools to be made fully government-aided schools * All homeless are to be provided affordable homes and not low-cost flats by law * Call for a minimum wage of RM1,000 for each and every Malaysian * To initiate a Royal Commission of Inquiry on the violation of Federal Constitution by the government. Source: http://www.jeffooi.com/ Mirror, mirror on the wall
Who is the poorest of ‘em all?
It is said that despite Indian Malaysians making up about 8% of the country’s population, they own less than 2% of its national wealth. The community also faces severe problems of hardcore poverty and crime. Thousands of our Indian-Malaysian brethren grouped under the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) wanted to see the PM last Sunday. Hindraf chairperson P Waytha Moorthy later read out the content of the resolution, which was drawn up in a forum on July 30, where some 1,000 people unanimously supported the move to submit the resolution to Abdullah.
Among the points that were highlighted in the resolution are:
* End Malay privileges on the 50th Independence celebration
* Call for affirmative action plans for all poor Malaysians
* Pass Protection of Ethnic Minority Malaysian Indian Act 2007
* All Tamil schools to be made fully government-aided schools
* All homeless are to be provided affordable homes and not low-cost flats by law
* Call for a minimum wage of RM1,000 for each and every Malaysian
* To initiate a Royal Commission of Inquiry on the violation of Federal Constitution by the government.

Source: http://www.jeffooi.com/

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