WE HAVE READ BOTH THE PARTIES FOR AND AGAINST THE UNIVERSITY OF SABAH.

AND IN ANY DEBATES, IT STARTS WITH RESPECTING ALL HUMAN BEING AS ONE OF GOD’S CREATION. REGARDLESS OF NATIONALITITIES AND OR RACES. THIS WILL THAN BE A GOOD FOCAL POINT.

LIKE UMS GIRL NOTED: ‘ you dont have to be rude”

we will never know that she will make a better doctor than any other graduates of other varsity.

we will never know that one day, my life may hinge on her at the hospital.

show a little respect. a little bit of kindness goes a long long way.

thank you.

“By the way, what is the cut-off points for entry into the Medical Course in UMS? It is also possible the students themselves may not be of the quality required.”

this is totally untrue.. my batch, all of us scored 4.00 in our matriculation and STPM exam. It’s not the school who decides who goes in and who will not but the ministry of education. this is not a private university. at least all of us here did well in exam before. Even some private universities oversea recruit students who failed in exam and not even from science stream. Please don’t be rude.

The fact is, UMS medical student nowadays put lot of effort even more than the others to cope with their enviroment and learn as lot as they could to achieve the quality of standard to become a good and safe doctors.

Learning medicine is not like learning at school where teachers come and teach, learning medicine is learning by oneself guided by the lecturer. The process of learning by this way is the one that create a good and safe doctor. We are independence and we use our precious brain to achieve that goal to become a doctor.

In fact, when we enter the clinical years, the one who are teaching us the most in the Specialist doctor from HQE. Most of our bed side teaching were done with HQE lecturer. Learning medicine is all about bed side teaching. And we learn a lot from them. It’s not right when this article reflect our school like we are only teach by the burmist lecturer.

For the claim of unqualified burmist lecturer, i as a student did not know about the administration politics or whatsoever but what i know is that the burmist lecturer were actually good because they have lots of clinical experience and they sure know a lot. They are actually a good doctors. Most of them speak good english.

This article is not fair. We as the student who are the one struggling here and search and learn a lot to become a doctor. We are the one experiencing the learning in medicine. So for me, UMS medical school student will not become doctors if they were not ready or safe. What our lecturer said to us is, ‘ you will not be a doctor, until we and the community feel that you are a safe doctors. and for that, we are training you all to become a safe doctor’. We will not be a doctor if the burmist did not teach us good. And we have enough hard time studying medicine, no other political pressure needed.

We admit that we have our own limitations and weaknesses, just as any other medical school, BUT, this does not mean that we are incompetent. Learning medicine is very much dependent on one’s own initiatives and hard work. At university level, we cannot expect lecturers to continue “spoon-feeding” the students. What we can do is to strive for excellence and work even harder.

No one can ensure that all the apples in one basket are perfect. We all have our differences and that makes this world so colourful. There are still a lot of good doctors from Myanmar and also other countries.

In a family, when the parents quarrel, the children will be the ones who are caught in the middle. This is our situation!

Instead of blaming each other, why don’t we unite together and fight for our future? Give us a chance to grow.

In a way I agree with Mr. Adam Yong that the writer’s comment about hiring Myanmar lecturers has a little racist tone in it. Regardless of whether he is a staff at UMS or a staff of Queen Elizabeth Hospital, I reckon that he is (or was) a doctor. It is quite sad to see that a person of such a position can have such a narrow vision towards fellow colleagues and also the education system of his own country.

I’m an expatriate and I have been teaching at UMS Medical School as a specialist for quite some time now. Prior to joining UMS, I’ve been a specialist in Myanmar as well as a few countries and I have seen quite a number of medical institutions along the way. From what I see, UMS Medical School does not differ so much from various medical schools that I have seen locally and overseas.

All of us expatriate clinicians at UMS MUST be registered by MMC. MMC is NOT a body under UMS, so its decision is NOT relied on the interest of the university. To say that MMC gives special treatment to university staff is NOT true at all because our applications took about 4 months to be approved.

As I read through the paragraphs, I found out that the writer very much sounds like someone who is so frustrated with the system he is in at the moment. Someone close to him, (or is it himself?…), was barred from clinical practice by Queen Elizabeth Hospital one year ago (he said this himself). The hospital will not sack someone without any valid reason. Myanmar doctors from UMS have started clinical practice at two major hospitals in Kota Kinabalu and so far none of us has encountered any problem. It is NOT the issue of so many Myanmar doctors in UMS. It is because he is upset with something or someone at the workplace. This is so sad indeed.

To say that university can hire people regardless of their qualification does not hold any truth. Otherwise, the university would not face a shortage of staff because it can hire one person today and another one the next morning, everyday. Temporary appointment in UMS is issued so that specialists do not go anywhere else after having passed the interview. Our application to work in Malaysia then goes through the same long process of evaluation and assessment through the relevant authorities. I was informed that it’s a bit difficult to attract Malaysian to move in because they demand very high position and salary. The university has to resort to recruiting trainee lecturer for that matter.

I can assure you, I found that UMS medical students are as good as other students from other medical schools. You can argue that I am biased, but the report from external examiners about the excellent achievement of UMS medical students doing Medical Elective (locally and overseas) speaks volume of the true reality here.

In my opinion, although UMS Medical School is only on the 5th year of operation, it already has all the basic necessities to function as a full pledge medical school. I am ashamed to hear that you as a doctor yourself think that all those equipments, all the clinical skills labs, is still not sufficient to train students to become good doctors. As for the Clinical Block at HQE, if you keep your head down, smile and greet people, they will share with you that it’s been decided that UMS will continue using that place for a long time to come. If you keep your head down, smile and greet people, they will also share with you that UMS and MOH did sign an agreement back in 2003.

We expatriate will eventually be gone from this country one day. What worries me is people like you who belittles your own kind whereas you should be the one helping to plan for the future of medical education in your country. Thank you sir, and good luck to you.

Like the restaurants with foreign workers, they do not speak english, do not understand what you want and the food taste yaky.. then what do you expect of the lecturers in the UNI?????

too many universities built (lots of infrastructure, development, purchase of equipment = lots of commission money to be pocketed) – and we still lack of manpower to teach?

OK. just lower the standards. Make it easier to become lecturer / teacher. So many unemployed grads who can’t make it in the private sector … rope them in. get them in as teachers / lecturers.

don’t bother about the Taiwan grads. their degree and qualification not recognized. Standard is lower than our minimum requirement here.

I’m still amazed the Higher Education Minister said he would want to check whether the Wong-fella has got his scholarship sponsored by government. This is really a laughing stock in the Chinese community. Dream on. Taiwan certification, not recognized.

just continue on with what we’re doing. Some day, these taiwan, US, UK grads will come up with inventions and Intellectual Properties for the big MNCs of the world. And we shall end up buying from them la.

No need be sour over this. It is us who said, “Kalau tidak suka Malaysia, boleh keluar”. This is uttered in the parliament. And it is not even seditious. and not chargeable under ISA.

Maybe there is immunity for monkeys in the zoo.

There is a difference between teaching real life lessons and lessons from the books only. In the case of a doctor, the book can tell you one thousand and one treatments for one particular disease. When he goes to the ward, he discovers through experience that only one treatment works and this treatment is not mentioned in the books. Foreign lecturers or doctors should be given a period of attachment in the hospital to familiarise themselves with real life situations. From there, they will be able to tell the medical students what to look out for. Local doctors who are attached to the hospital should be utilized and be given the chance to teach the medical students in the universities and to share their real life experiences. It does not have to be the consultant or the specialist to give the lectures because they are always so busy. Even the medical officers and the housemen can do so.

University students who major in medicine should have the heart, soul and spirit to want to help the sick. Not because they want the powerful title. Not because their parents want them to. Not because it makes them look great. Once they have the correct attitude, I believe they will search for all the correct answers and they will not settle for anything less. Genuine medical students are very hardworking. They would not behave like the typical youngsters who lepak their time away. Therefore both the ones who teach and the ones who learn are very important. One can’t do without the other.

my chinese partner in suzhou in china helps build hospitals for the poor in the villages.

so not all are factory labourers. this is my point.

if it differs from yours. i apologise.

blame the voters who vote for the government they deserved.

i only appeal that we respect each other despite our differences.

in any nationalities or race- there are the good and the not so good.

generalization is uncouth.

my sri lankan friend is an engineer working for microsoft .

POINT THE FINGERS SQUARELY AT THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS.

THE PROBLEMS ARISED FROM THE APPROVING AUTHORITIES.

THE PROBLEMS ARISED FROM THE UNIVERSITY ITSELF.

THE PROBLEMS ARISED FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY.

NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY NATIONALITIES PLEASE.

same parallel with the barisan nasional government./opposition party.

why blame lim kit siang who is a chinese.?
why blame karpal singh who is a sikh.?
why blame najib who is a malay .?
why blame samy vellu who is an indian.?
why blame kitingan who is a kadazan?

BECAUSE MALAYSIANS VOTE BARISAN TO BE THE GOVERNMENT.

BECAUSE MALAYSIANS ARE EASILY TEMPTED AND GULLIBLE BY MATERIAL INDUCEMENT . eg by election in machap and ijok. by removing the ht tower, by donation of money to chinese school, by repairing the roads- Barisan nasional had the day.

YB LIM,
THE SYSTEM FAILED. ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS.
OPPOSITION will fail if it does not see the bigger picture.

MALAYSIANS DESERVE THIS, BECAUSE THEY VOTED FOR BN.

but unfortunately, this will not change in this coming election,but at least get the point across, that a credible opposition in numbers are ABLE to check and balance any abuse of the system.

even private university hired foreign lecturers. BUT, their selection criteria is good. any foreign lecturers of asian nationalities in limkokwing university ?

lim kit siang can do a check.