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	<title>Comments on: Open Invitation to Malaysians - August 10 Parliamentary Roundtable to reaffirm 50-year nation-building principle that Malaysia a secular state with Islam as official religion</title>
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		<title>By: PAS KELUAR DARI PR [AT] TRANUNGKITE ONLINE &#171; Baca &#38; Guna Hati &#38; Minda Sebelum Percaya !</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/01/open-invitation-to-malaysians-august-10-parliamentary-roundtable-to-reaffirm-50-year-nation-building-principle-that-malaysia-a-secular-state-with-islam-as-official-religion/#comment-110688</link>
		<dc:creator>PAS KELUAR DARI PR [AT] TRANUNGKITE ONLINE &#171; Baca &#38; Guna Hati &#38; Minda Sebelum Percaya !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1. Tentangan DAP secara terang2an berkenaan Negara Islam. Rujuk di sini  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sobnation</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/01/open-invitation-to-malaysians-august-10-parliamentary-roundtable-to-reaffirm-50-year-nation-building-principle-that-malaysia-a-secular-state-with-islam-as-official-religion/#comment-43035</link>
		<dc:creator>sobnation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Nation must adopt TAR Policies - Ã¢â‚¬ËœTransparency, Accountability &#38; ResponsibilityÃ¢â‚¬â„¢. 

http://sobnation.wordpress.com/2007/08/02/nation-must-adopt-tar-policies-transparency-accountability-responsibility/#more-36</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Nation must adopt TAR Policies - Ã¢â‚¬ËœTransparency, Accountability &amp; ResponsibilityÃ¢â‚¬â„¢. </p>
<p><a href="http://sobnation.wordpress.com/2007/08/02/nation-must-adopt-tar-policies-transparency-accountability-responsibility/#more-36" rel="nofollow">http://sobnation.wordpress.com/2007/08/02/nation-must-adopt-tar-policies-transparency-accountability-responsibility/#more-36</a></p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/01/open-invitation-to-malaysians-august-10-parliamentary-roundtable-to-reaffirm-50-year-nation-building-principle-that-malaysia-a-secular-state-with-islam-as-official-religion/#comment-42952</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I salute Tan Sri Bernard Dompok for his courage to stand up openly and said what he must and need to say without fear or favour!!! All those who are in high places should make their stand known and not just keep quiet!! (quote for President Bush: "If you are not with me, you are against me (even if you keep quiet!!)" for what ever I said may not carry any weight but those who are Tengku, RAJA, TUN, TAN SRI, DATUK, MPs, Cabiner Ministers etc.. what they say means a lot to all Malaysians...if you dont do it openly, at least write or call the PM, DPM to express your views immediately!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I salute Tan Sri Bernard Dompok for his courage to stand up openly and said what he must and need to say without fear or favour!!! All those who are in high places should make their stand known and not just keep quiet!! (quote for President Bush: &#8220;If you are not with me, you are against me (even if you keep quiet!!)&#8221; for what ever I said may not carry any weight but those who are Tengku, RAJA, TUN, TAN SRI, DATUK, MPs, Cabiner Ministers etc.. what they say means a lot to all Malaysians&#8230;if you dont do it openly, at least write or call the PM, DPM to express your views immediately!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MALAYSIAKINI: 
"Minister breaks rank on Islamic state "
Aug 2, 07 12:04pm Adjust font size:   
 
A senior cabinet minister broke ranks today on the Islamic state issue by arguing that the nationÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s founders did not have that in mind when the Federation of Malaysia was formed in 1963. 

Ã¢â‚¬Å“I hope my colleagues in the government can forgive me for saying that I do not agree that we are an Islamic state,Ã¢â‚¬Â said Minister in the Prime MinisterÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Department Bernard Dompok, who hailed from Sabah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MALAYSIAKINI:<br />
&#8220;Minister breaks rank on Islamic state &#8221;<br />
Aug 2, 07 12:04pm Adjust font size:   </p>
<p>A senior cabinet minister broke ranks today on the Islamic state issue by arguing that the nationÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s founders did not have that in mind when the Federation of Malaysia was formed in 1963. </p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“I hope my colleagues in the government can forgive me for saying that I do not agree that we are an Islamic state,Ã¢â‚¬Â said Minister in the Prime MinisterÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Department Bernard Dompok, who hailed from Sabah.</p>
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		<title>By: lauwengsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>lauwengsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all,

Please be informed that you can enter the Parliament house and park your car inside to attend the Parliamentary Roundtable to reaffirm Malaysia is a secular state and not an  Islamic State.

The Security Department of the Parliament House is informed of the event. After parking your vehicles in the Parliament House, please proceed to the main entrance at the Chamber.

Once you arrive at the main entrance, you will be asked to scan your body for security purpose. After that, please exchange for a visitor pass. Our staffs will lead you to Bilik Taklimat. Signage will be set up in different places.

Please call me at 016-3231563 for any queries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>Please be informed that you can enter the Parliament house and park your car inside to attend the Parliamentary Roundtable to reaffirm Malaysia is a secular state and not an  Islamic State.</p>
<p>The Security Department of the Parliament House is informed of the event. After parking your vehicles in the Parliament House, please proceed to the main entrance at the Chamber.</p>
<p>Once you arrive at the main entrance, you will be asked to scan your body for security purpose. After that, please exchange for a visitor pass. Our staffs will lead you to Bilik Taklimat. Signage will be set up in different places.</p>
<p>Please call me at 016-3231563 for any queries.</p>
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		<title>By: sotong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/01/open-invitation-to-malaysians-august-10-parliamentary-roundtable-to-reaffirm-50-year-nation-building-principle-that-malaysia-a-secular-state-with-islam-as-official-religion/#comment-42928</link>
		<dc:creator>sotong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a long expired leader at that time claimed the country is an Islamic state to achieve his narrow, short sighted and personal agendas, political and religious opportunists and extremists took full advantage of the weak and bad leadership to implement their damaging and hidden agendas.

Like many other issues, religion is an excuse to gain power and wealth at the great expense of a multi religious country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a long expired leader at that time claimed the country is an Islamic state to achieve his narrow, short sighted and personal agendas, political and religious opportunists and extremists took full advantage of the weak and bad leadership to implement their damaging and hidden agendas.</p>
<p>Like many other issues, religion is an excuse to gain power and wealth at the great expense of a multi religious country.</p>
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		<title>By: sotong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/01/open-invitation-to-malaysians-august-10-parliamentary-roundtable-to-reaffirm-50-year-nation-building-principle-that-malaysia-a-secular-state-with-islam-as-official-religion/#comment-42922</link>
		<dc:creator>sotong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the country is an Islamic state or becoming one, BN leaders had betrayed the country and her ordinary people - Muslims and non Muslims alike.

How could they face the non Malays, in particular bumi non Malays who had been in the country for thousands of years? Islam is very young in the country...about 450 years old. 

The problem is not the religion but its militancy, extremism, fundamentalism and political aspects which are causing a lot of problems all around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the country is an Islamic state or becoming one, BN leaders had betrayed the country and her ordinary people - Muslims and non Muslims alike.</p>
<p>How could they face the non Malays, in particular bumi non Malays who had been in the country for thousands of years? Islam is very young in the country&#8230;about 450 years old. </p>
<p>The problem is not the religion but its militancy, extremism, fundamentalism and political aspects which are causing a lot of problems all around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: kaki.ayam</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaki.ayam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi uncle lim, 

so you mean we can walk in to parliament on that day at that time? our cars are not suppose to enter isn't it? so we should park somewhere further? any suggestion on place to park? i am not lazy to walk, but just can't seems to know of any parking place except the roadside (which is open to summon)...

give us more of the details...let us put it on our blog and spread the word around...give us more of the details...maybe someone could just make some posters....hehe

&lt;strong&gt;[Please register by Wednesday 8th August 2007, giving the necessary particulars,  if you wish to attend the Parliamentary Roundtable to get parliamentary security clearance. Contact persons Lau Weng San 016-3231563, 03-79578022; Wong Chow Onn 016-2681483. Kit]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi uncle lim, </p>
<p>so you mean we can walk in to parliament on that day at that time? our cars are not suppose to enter isn&#8217;t it? so we should park somewhere further? any suggestion on place to park? i am not lazy to walk, but just can&#8217;t seems to know of any parking place except the roadside (which is open to summon)&#8230;</p>
<p>give us more of the details&#8230;let us put it on our blog and spread the word around&#8230;give us more of the details&#8230;maybe someone could just make some posters&#8230;.hehe</p>
<p><strong>[Please register by Wednesday 8th August 2007, giving the necessary particulars,  if you wish to attend the Parliamentary Roundtable to get parliamentary security clearance. Contact persons Lau Weng San 016-3231563, 03-79578022; Wong Chow Onn 016-2681483. Kit]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/08/01/open-invitation-to-malaysians-august-10-parliamentary-roundtable-to-reaffirm-50-year-nation-building-principle-that-malaysia-a-secular-state-with-islam-as-official-religion/#comment-42919</link>
		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yellowkingdom says:
"IsnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t there a gag order not to debate Ã¢â‚¬Å“NajibÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s 717 declarationÃ¢â‚¬Â? "

No surprise. UMNO's principle of administration is 'Do what I say, don't do what I do!'

Since when has UMNO's words been trustworthy (i.e.dependable), truthful (i.e. no giddy spin-mongering), transparent (i.e. not an opaque mixture of half-baked truths, half-baked lies and over-cooked yucky mess!).

Some people swear that UMNO is a den of thieves. I would be a little less disparaging. I'd just say there is not a speck of honour amongst thieves. And should Malaysians trust the nation's weal and coffers to men we would not trust with our mother's purses.

So, let's vote BN out! 

Vote DAP/PKR in the next GE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yellowkingdom says:<br />
&#8220;IsnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t there a gag order not to debate Ã¢â‚¬Å“NajibÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s 717 declarationÃ¢â‚¬Â? &#8221;</p>
<p>No surprise. UMNO&#8217;s principle of administration is &#8216;Do what I say, don&#8217;t do what I do!&#8217;</p>
<p>Since when has UMNO&#8217;s words been trustworthy (i.e.dependable), truthful (i.e. no giddy spin-mongering), transparent (i.e. not an opaque mixture of half-baked truths, half-baked lies and over-cooked yucky mess!).</p>
<p>Some people swear that UMNO is a den of thieves. I would be a little less disparaging. I&#8217;d just say there is not a speck of honour amongst thieves. And should Malaysians trust the nation&#8217;s weal and coffers to men we would not trust with our mother&#8217;s purses.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s vote BN out! </p>
<p>Vote DAP/PKR in the next GE.</p>
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