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	<title>Comments on: Parliamentary Roundtable - reaffirm Malaysia a secular state with Islam as the official religion and not an Islamic State</title>
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		<title>By: ktteokt</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-48467</link>
		<dc:creator>ktteokt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sitting on the fence - When they want non-Malay votes, it is secular, when they want Malay votes, it is Islamic. Double-headed snake!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sitting on the fence - When they want non-Malay votes, it is secular, when they want Malay votes, it is Islamic. Double-headed snake!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Accommodations Abroad</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-44232</link>
		<dc:creator>Accommodations Abroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Accommodations Abroad...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...] Ã¯Â»Â¿noble site now redraft this snippet  http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/05/03/189/ and give comments [...]...</description>
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<p>[...] Ã¯Â»Â¿noble site now redraft this snippet  <a href="http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/05/03/189/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/05/03/189/</a> and give comments [...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-42982</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undergrad2:  Be careful what you wish for.  You might end up in the capable hands of the katoey i.e. the lady-boys.  Then you'd wish you had gone to your original destination !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undergrad2:  Be careful what you wish for.  You might end up in the capable hands of the katoey i.e. the lady-boys.  Then you&#8217;d wish you had gone to your original destination !</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-42959</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 06:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops sorry, one senior minister just found his  "bola"  ie Bernad Dompok, Minister in the PM Dept. At last he picked up courage to speak his mind. In his speech at the launching of  'The Merdeka Statement' in KL today, Dompok said, " For all intents and purposes, I think Malaysia was not meant to be an Islamic stateÃ¢â‚¬Â .  

Good for you Dompok! At least you can sleep well tonight., I am sure of that.  Malaysiakini.com has a full report on his speech.

Anymore "Jantans"  around?  Speak out and be counted. If you don't, just remember that when they come for you, there will be no one left to speak out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops sorry, one senior minister just found his  &#8220;bola&#8221;  ie Bernad Dompok, Minister in the PM Dept. At last he picked up courage to speak his mind. In his speech at the launching of  &#8216;The Merdeka Statement&#8217; in KL today, Dompok said, &#8221; For all intents and purposes, I think Malaysia was not meant to be an Islamic stateÃ¢â‚¬Â .  </p>
<p>Good for you Dompok! At least you can sleep well tonight., I am sure of that.  Malaysiakini.com has a full report on his speech.</p>
<p>Anymore &#8220;Jantans&#8221;  around?  Speak out and be counted. If you don&#8217;t, just remember that when they come for you, there will be no one left to speak out.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-42511</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I don't  mind about being stranded in Bangkok. If ever I find myself stranded in Bangkok I'd visit my favourite "No hands restaurant" and if Phatpong is still the place it once was for foreign visitors, I'd would like a piece of that action too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I don&#8217;t  mind about being stranded in Bangkok. If ever I find myself stranded in Bangkok I&#8217;d visit my favourite &#8220;No hands restaurant&#8221; and if Phatpong is still the place it once was for foreign visitors, I&#8217;d would like a piece of that action too.</p>
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		<title>By: AhPek</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-42508</link>
		<dc:creator>AhPek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to art-upon-mu's and trashed's comments on the seemingly infallible parties like KMT of Taiwan,LDP of Japan and Congress Party of India, those countries are not mired in race and religion issues.Here these issues top the list in their election agenda.Besides the political parties are not formed along racial lines like here.Thus under this unfortunately unique situation in Malaysia I honestly think even to deny BN a two thirds majority is an impossible task given the current political climate prevailing here.The opposition parties don't see the need to form a united opposition front against the mighty machinery of the BN.Also the general populace are not angry enough to show their anger thro the ballot box.They are quite happy getting the crumps thrown off the UMNO table.We are likely to get another 50 years of UMNO era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to art-upon-mu&#8217;s and trashed&#8217;s comments on the seemingly infallible parties like KMT of Taiwan,LDP of Japan and Congress Party of India, those countries are not mired in race and religion issues.Here these issues top the list in their election agenda.Besides the political parties are not formed along racial lines like here.Thus under this unfortunately unique situation in Malaysia I honestly think even to deny BN a two thirds majority is an impossible task given the current political climate prevailing here.The opposition parties don&#8217;t see the need to form a united opposition front against the mighty machinery of the BN.Also the general populace are not angry enough to show their anger thro the ballot box.They are quite happy getting the crumps thrown off the UMNO table.We are likely to get another 50 years of UMNO era.</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-42506</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 04:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys, there are no "jantans" left in UMNO, BN for that matter. Find them in the cemeterys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys, there are no &#8220;jantans&#8221; left in UMNO, BN for that matter. Find them in the cemeterys!</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-42505</link>
		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should read as "It takes statesmen to say, Ã¢â‚¬ËœHeck, we canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t put a leg each on two different boats in two different streams that are ideologically drifting and pushing further and further apartÃ¢â‚¬â„¢.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should read as &#8220;It takes statesmen to say, Ã¢â‚¬ËœHeck, we canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t put a leg each on two different boats in two different streams that are ideologically drifting and pushing further and further apartÃ¢â‚¬â„¢.</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/27/424/#comment-42494</link>
		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no true statesman in BN who would stand up to Najib's nonsensical declaration that Malaysia is an Islamic state and not a secular state. 

What UMNO and BN is trying to do is just to change the label and still remain secular, hoping to please everybody - the Islamists and the secularists. BN's silly attempt is akin to calling a lemon a papaya. The problem is a new crop of BN leaders can easily forget (and Tun Mahathir will promptly attest to the short memories of all UMNO followers!) and will forget why a lemon was called a papaya. Then when extremism and intolerance breeds in the backyards of parochialism, the nation will slip very fast into an Afghan-PAkistan milieu.

It takes statesmen to say, 'Heck, we can't put a leg each on a boat that's ideologically drifting further and further apart'. A lemon by any other name will be just as acidic. And there is no stateman in UMNO, MCA, MIC, PPP, GERAKAN etc... And all BN'ers seem to have lost their mind at the same time their pants are splitting from the drift!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no true statesman in BN who would stand up to Najib&#8217;s nonsensical declaration that Malaysia is an Islamic state and not a secular state. </p>
<p>What UMNO and BN is trying to do is just to change the label and still remain secular, hoping to please everybody - the Islamists and the secularists. BN&#8217;s silly attempt is akin to calling a lemon a papaya. The problem is a new crop of BN leaders can easily forget (and Tun Mahathir will promptly attest to the short memories of all UMNO followers!) and will forget why a lemon was called a papaya. Then when extremism and intolerance breeds in the backyards of parochialism, the nation will slip very fast into an Afghan-PAkistan milieu.</p>
<p>It takes statesmen to say, &#8216;Heck, we can&#8217;t put a leg each on a boat that&#8217;s ideologically drifting further and further apart&#8217;. A lemon by any other name will be just as acidic. And there is no stateman in UMNO, MCA, MIC, PPP, GERAKAN etc&#8230; And all BN&#8217;ers seem to have lost their mind at the same time their pants are splitting from the drift!</p>
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