Comments on: Three responses to Najib’s “717 Declaration” - “Malaysia is an Islamic state and had never been a secular state” http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/ for Malaysia Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:26:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: zioburosky13 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-41451 zioburosky13 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:45:51 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-41451 They keep telling us not to play the religion card but now they are doing it. They keep telling us not to play the religion card but now they are doing it.

]]> By: pwcheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40955 pwcheng Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:03:08 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40955 UMNO is hell bent to stay in power and not even by the ballot as many Malaysians think. Even if you can vote them out they will tear up the country and instill fear and misery as what happened to May13 and then they will say that it is the work of the opposition and this this the end result of electing an opposition. Whichever way you look at it, the people especially the non-Bumis and the poor ignorant Bumis will suffer. The NEP had obviously served them extremely well politically so much so they will do everything to defend it, and tearing up the country will be child's play to them to defend the NEP. Why the NEP had served them so well is easy to understand. i)It had decisively divide the races and because of the lure of the NEP there is no way the Malays will unite with the other races to kick them out for whatever misfeasance or wrongdoings UMNO commit. Because of the widespread ideology of the NEP for the Malays, any Malays who has benefited from it will hope to get more from it and for those who has got nothing the hope is there. ii)The NEP has achieved the aim of UMNO to deform the brains of the Malays because things seems to be falling from the sky and they need not use their brains, need not be competitive, need not be intelligent or needless to use your intelligence, need not work hard, need not repay loans if you cannot pay, need not worry if your business fail as UMNO and Petronas is at standby except you only need to support UMNO come what may and until Kingdom comes. Hence this make the majority mentally weak and became subservient to UMNO as they had too depend on UMNO for survival. Anything short of that they they will be in trouble. They just need protection and UMNO can do any damn things a long as they are seen to protect them through NEP or any other form of affirmative action. They are constantly "reminded, that they will Regress, (http://politics101malaysia.blogsome.com/2007/07/20/bumis-will-regress-without-nep/) they will be dominated, they will be marched backwards and all the singing like as though they will even die of hunger if there is no NEP. All these are subtlety done so as to trap the Malays to be forever with ’crutch mentality’ that will disallow them to be truly competent, competitive and enterprising. Truly give themselves the opportunity to practice their survival instincts. Hence they will forever have to depend on UMNO for the tongkat as their means of survival. The divide line is clearly and cleverly drawn by UMNO and this line had helped them to survive since independence and they will use the same line until kingdom comes because with it they can keep on plundering the nation until it becomes dry and everybody will be a looser (except UMNO and their cronies) during their process of squeezing and at the end of the day the country will go to the dogs as there are already indication of it. It is obvious that the NEP and Islam is their favorite and most reliable weapons to stay in power. Having emplaced NEP through shuffling it through the throats of the non-Bumis they are now playing the Islam cards to checkmate PAS. That is why they are remaining very silent on the various nuisance activities of Jakim, which some had brought bad reputation and impression to the country even while they are shouting "Visit Malaysia". As long as it suits their political interests, UMNO will not care what will happen to the people or the country. This is very clear and we can only hope the Malays will see it too. UMNO is hell bent to stay in power and not even by the ballot as many Malaysians think. Even if you can vote them out they will tear up the country and instill fear and misery as what happened to May13 and then they will say that it is the work of the opposition and this this the end result of electing an opposition. Whichever way you look at it, the people especially the non-Bumis and the poor ignorant Bumis will suffer.

The NEP had obviously served them extremely well politically so much so they will do everything to defend it, and tearing up the country will be child’s play to them to defend the NEP.

Why the NEP had served them so well is easy to understand.
i)It had decisively divide the races and because of the lure of the NEP there is no way the Malays will unite with the other races to kick them out for whatever misfeasance or wrongdoings UMNO commit. Because of the widespread ideology of the NEP for the Malays, any Malays who has benefited from it will hope to get more from it and for those who has got nothing the hope is there.
ii)The NEP has achieved the aim of UMNO to deform the brains of the Malays because things seems to be falling from the sky and they need not use their brains, need not be competitive, need not be intelligent or needless to use your intelligence, need not work hard, need not repay loans if you cannot pay, need not worry if your business fail as UMNO and Petronas is at standby except you only need to support UMNO come what may and until Kingdom comes. Hence this make the majority mentally weak and became subservient to UMNO as they had too depend on UMNO for survival. Anything short of that they they will be in trouble. They just need protection and UMNO can do any damn things a long as they are seen to protect them through NEP or any other form of affirmative action. They are constantly “reminded, that they will Regress, (http://politics101malaysia.blogsome.com/2007/07/20/bumis-will-regress-without-nep/) they will be dominated, they will be marched backwards and all the singing like as though they will even die of hunger if there is no NEP.

All these are subtlety done so as to trap the Malays to be forever with ’crutch mentality’ that will disallow them to be truly competent, competitive and enterprising. Truly give themselves the opportunity to practice their survival instincts. Hence they will forever have to depend on UMNO for the tongkat as their means of survival. The divide line is clearly and cleverly drawn by UMNO and this line had helped them to survive since independence and they will use the same line until kingdom comes because with it they can keep on plundering the nation until it becomes dry and everybody will be a looser (except UMNO and their cronies) during their process of squeezing and at the end of the day the country will go to the dogs as there are already indication of it.

It is obvious that the NEP and Islam is their favorite and most reliable weapons to stay in power. Having emplaced NEP through shuffling it through the throats of the non-Bumis they are now playing the Islam cards to checkmate PAS. That is why they are remaining very silent on the various nuisance activities of Jakim, which some had brought bad reputation and impression to the country even while they are shouting “Visit Malaysia”. As long as it suits their political interests, UMNO will not care what will happen to the people or the country. This is very clear and we can only hope the Malays will see it too.

]]> By: ethnicmalaysian http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40947 ethnicmalaysian Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:40:16 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40947 I believe Raja Petra has illustrated how the NEP is against the teaching of Islam in his articles on the said matter. So clearly, if Malaysia is an Islamic state, then the NEP is a grievous sin and should be discontinued. Perhaps the Islamic scholars would care to analyse the NEP since it's such a fundamental bedrock of this country, and issue a fatwa on the legality of the NEP under Islamic law. I believe Raja Petra has illustrated how the NEP is against the teaching of Islam in his articles on the said matter. So clearly, if Malaysia is an Islamic state, then the NEP is a grievous sin and should be discontinued. Perhaps the Islamic scholars would care to analyse the NEP since it’s such a fundamental bedrock of this country, and issue a fatwa on the legality of the NEP under Islamic law.

]]> By: witoutprejudice http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40917 witoutprejudice Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:04:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40917 When come to voting, yeah, UMNO will said ISLAMIC STATE to buy vote. After the voting, especially those collecting "above-table" and "under-table" will said, where got ISLAMIC STATE? MONEY STATE lar... Badawi/Najib, pls keep telling to yourself and your kuncu-kuncu that you all are Muslim and GOD-fearing people. Those who know it is a sin but still committing the sin will commit an even bigger sin. When come to voting, yeah, UMNO will said ISLAMIC STATE to buy vote. After the voting, especially those collecting “above-table” and “under-table” will said, where got ISLAMIC STATE? MONEY STATE lar…

Badawi/Najib, pls keep telling to yourself and your kuncu-kuncu that you all are Muslim and GOD-fearing people. Those who know it is a sin but still committing the sin will commit an even bigger sin.

]]> By: TalkisCheap http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40916 TalkisCheap Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:04:09 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40916 DON'T LOSE FOCUS!! Whether Malaysia is an Islamic state or a Secular state, future of Malaysia will always be in a LOSING STATE with Barisan Notorious in power. Take a look at our LOSING STATE track records: 1. Singapore Malaysia Crooked Bridge Cancellation- RM200m 2. Broga incinerator Cancellation- RM15m to RM200m?? 3. “Bocor” Buildings Inspection- RM20m 4. FAX aircraft repairment- RM40m 5. Altantuya Murder Trial Sues- RM100m ?? 6. Squatgate Sues- RM10m?? and mamy many more…… To all Malaysian who truly love our beautiful homeland. Talk is Cheap. Don’t fall for this non-sense and lose our focus- Time to whip these “hopeless-brainless-useless-spineless-all-time-parasite” with our VOTE. DON’T LOSE FOCUS!!

Whether Malaysia is an Islamic state or a Secular state, future of Malaysia will always be in a LOSING STATE with Barisan Notorious in power.

Take a look at our LOSING STATE track records:
1. Singapore Malaysia Crooked Bridge Cancellation- RM200m
2. Broga incinerator Cancellation- RM15m to RM200m??
3. “Bocor” Buildings Inspection- RM20m
4. FAX aircraft repairment- RM40m
5. Altantuya Murder Trial Sues- RM100m ??
6. Squatgate Sues- RM10m??

and mamy many more……

To all Malaysian who truly love our beautiful homeland.

Talk is Cheap.
Don’t fall for this non-sense and lose our focus- Time to whip these “hopeless-brainless-useless-spineless-all-time-parasite” with our VOTE.

]]> By: awesome http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40903 awesome Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:09:08 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40903 You know I think we are just barking up the wrong tree. Don't know if the leaders even care to read this blog and hear all the grievances. By right they should, if they care to know how the grassroots feel. During election, you know what to do..all the silly irresponsible leaders who cause strive by their words namely those who take the keris and swore a lie and distort history be voted out. We Malaysians, wants peace and harmony and respect for all races and beliefs. If one is insenstive and cause chaos by their attitude and words he/she should be held under Internal Security Act...right? By declaring this is country is an Islamic State and distorting history and constitution is a crime. Can't the leaders just read all these comments and be wise with their words. Not all Malays and Muslims agree with their actions too. So if you ever read...change or get booted out!! You know I think we are just barking up the wrong tree. Don’t know if the leaders even care to read this blog and hear all the grievances.

By right they should, if they care to know how the grassroots feel. During election, you know what to do..all the silly irresponsible leaders who cause strive by their words namely those who take the keris and swore a lie and distort history be voted out.

We Malaysians, wants peace and harmony and respect for all races and beliefs. If one is insenstive and cause chaos by their attitude and words he/she should be held under Internal Security Act…right?

By declaring this is country is an Islamic State and distorting history and constitution is a crime. Can’t the leaders just read all these comments and be wise with their words. Not all Malays and Muslims agree with their actions too.

So if you ever read…change or get booted out!!

]]> By: sotong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40858 sotong Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:01:00 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40858 BN leaders had betrayed a promising, modern, progressive and multi religious country. BN leaders had betrayed a promising, modern, progressive and multi religious country.

]]> By: slashed http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40740 slashed Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:11:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40740 The Islamization of Malaysia would have its own limits - the modern malays in the West coast of Malaysia would not easily tolerate radicalization so the burqa-wearing fear etc is unfounded. He who has tasted freedom is unlikely to give it up so easily. Islamization may or may not - but based on current events is very likely if not certain to - affect the liberties of Muslims and non-Muslims alike. That a secular state may be 'changed' into an Islamic state, not via a proper constitutional change, nor even thru any parliamentary procedure but via a cowardly press statement, ie dirty politics, represents a new low for Malaysia. ISA, 1988 Judicial crisis, and now 717 - what next? Perhaps Najib should declare that Malaysia was never a democracy at all but a caliphate with HIM as Caliph! The Islamization of Malaysia would have its own limits - the modern malays in the West coast of Malaysia would not easily tolerate radicalization so the burqa-wearing fear etc is unfounded. He who has tasted freedom is unlikely to give it up so easily. Islamization may or may not - but based on current events is very likely if not certain to - affect the liberties of Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

That a secular state may be ‘changed’ into an Islamic state, not via a proper constitutional change, nor even thru any parliamentary procedure but via a cowardly press statement, ie dirty politics, represents a new low for Malaysia. ISA, 1988 Judicial crisis, and now 717 - what next? Perhaps Najib should declare that Malaysia was never a democracy at all but a caliphate with HIM as Caliph!

]]> By: democrate http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40713 democrate Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:54:01 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/three-responses-to-najib%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9c717-declaration%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%9cmalaysia-is-an-islamic-state-and-had-never-been-a-secular-state%e2%80%9d/#comment-40713 Comeon Najib, Hishamudin and KJ ,put down your position and join me to stay in Pakistan for one month without special treatment being given ok? If the three stooges are really so interested to declare this country as Islamic State. The three stooges will understand what is meant by Islamic State.after the one month stay in Pakistan ! all of you will say sorry . Comeon Najib, Hishamudin and KJ ,put down your position and join me to stay in Pakistan for one month without special treatment being given ok? If the three stooges are really so interested to declare this country as Islamic State.
The three stooges will understand what is meant by Islamic State.after the one month stay in Pakistan ! all of you will say sorry .

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