Comments on: Power-sharing in BN? Press freedom in Malaysia? http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/ for Malaysia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:45:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Herald case: accepting similarities and differences « Shariah @ National Law http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-67171 Herald case: accepting similarities and differences « Shariah @ National Law Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:36:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-67171 [...] Posted on December 31, 2007. “Malaysia bukan Indonesia yang mengamalkan Panca Sila. Di Indonesia, rancangan agama selain Islam turut disiarkan televisyen, tapi kita tidak begitu. Kita juga bukan Iran yang tiada mahkamah sivil.” (Khairy Jamaluddin) [...] [...] Posted on December 31, 2007. “Malaysia bukan Indonesia yang mengamalkan Panca Sila. Di Indonesia, rancangan agama selain Islam turut disiarkan televisyen, tapi kita tidak begitu. Kita juga bukan Iran yang tiada mahkamah sivil.” (Khairy Jamaluddin) [...]

]]> By: AhPek http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-42429 AhPek Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:27:17 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-42429 Godfather, I totally agree with you that Marmitecrab has erred in thinking Malays are united. In fact PAS and UMNO are earnestly competing to impress the muslim community that one is more islamic than the other.The sad and sorry state of affairs that this country has descended into has to do with the fact that the non Malay communities as a whole are also crumb pickers, not just the MCA, GERAKAN or the MIC leaders. And also we keep on reminding ourselves that the Malays make up more than 50% of the population whilst the non Malays non Muslim make up to about 38%.The truth is that we do not see beyond our noses, get angry enough to say enough is enough and proceed to vent our disgust thro the ballot box.The fact is we are a down right corrupt nation. All UMNO has to do is to throw a few crumps and we get hooked line and sinker. On the flip side, take a look at the black americans.In the cotton fields of America, the blacks can be slapped, kicked and their women raped if the whites so wish for they think it is their goddamn right to do so.The Ku Klux clan whenever they like would lasso them,tie them to the back bumper of their cars and drag them thro the streets of Southern USA. Look at them today--many of them are in the seats of power particating in the affairs of America as equal partners.Barak Obama even has a fair chance to be the next US President and only 13% of Americans are black Americans according to 2005 US population census.Now don't tell me in America it is easier.The black Americans are angry enough to put up a fight to earn their place as rifgtful citizen of America. Godfather,
I totally agree with you that Marmitecrab has erred in thinking Malays are united. In fact PAS and UMNO are earnestly competing to impress the muslim community that one is more islamic than the other.The sad and sorry state of affairs that this country has descended into has to do with the fact that the non Malay communities as a whole are also crumb pickers, not just the MCA, GERAKAN or the MIC leaders.
And also we keep on reminding ourselves that the Malays make up more than 50% of the population whilst the non Malays non Muslim
make up to about 38%.The truth is that we do not see beyond our noses, get angry enough to say enough is enough and proceed to vent our disgust thro the ballot box.The fact is we are a down right corrupt nation. All UMNO has to do is to throw a few crumps and we get hooked line and sinker.
On the flip side, take a look at the black americans.In the cotton fields of America, the blacks can be slapped, kicked and their women raped if the whites so wish for they think it is their goddamn right to do so.The Ku Klux clan whenever they like would lasso them,tie them to the back bumper of their cars and drag them thro the streets of Southern USA. Look at them today–many of them are in the seats of power particating in the affairs of America as equal partners.Barak Obama even has a fair chance to be the next US President and only 13% of Americans are black Americans according to 2005 US population census.Now don’t tell me in America it is easier.The black Americans are angry enough to put up a fight to earn their place as rifgtful citizen of America.

]]> By: somaris http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-41067 somaris Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:37:10 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-41067 Well its so sad that all this MCA,MIC,Gerakan and PPP.say nothing and do nothing.Just like a dog when u ask them to sit they sit.hehehhe .Let me tell u all people soon its going to be to late if we all malaysian do nothing bout that .Show them who is the BOSS.vote them out.WE are MALAYSIAN FOR ALL. Well its so sad that all this MCA,MIC,Gerakan and PPP.say nothing and do nothing.Just like a dog when u ask them to sit they sit.hehehhe .Let me tell u all people soon its going to be to late if we all malaysian do nothing bout that .Show them who is the BOSS.vote them out.WE are MALAYSIAN FOR ALL.

]]> By: Utopia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-41017 Utopia Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:06:11 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-41017 I agree with Jan, UMNO = PAS anyway, both Islamic country... as for MCA = (M)alaysian (C)hicken/s (A)ssociation PS: Please preached this accronym to everyone you know! I agree with Jan, UMNO = PAS anyway, both Islamic country…

as for MCA = (M)alaysian (C)hicken/s (A)ssociation

PS: Please preached this accronym to everyone you know!

]]> By: Jan http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-41009 Jan Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:39:54 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-41009 Come to think of it voting PAS is not such a bad idea after all. Voting MCA, MIC or Gerakan is the same as voting UMNO and why should we keep on voting these people who keep discriminating against us and who bully us into submission and even try to change the spirit of the constitution to suit their agenda. Come to think of it voting PAS is not such a bad idea after all. Voting MCA, MIC or Gerakan is the same as voting UMNO and why should we keep on voting these people who keep discriminating against us and who bully us into submission and even try to change the spirit of the constitution to suit their agenda.

]]> By: pwcheng http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-41003 pwcheng Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:21:38 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-41003 The NEP policy is to divide the race and give them a blank check to plunder the country in the name of restructuring societies to deceive as many Malays as possible by making them believe that all Malays have special position in this country. In reality it is only UMNO and its cronies who are having all the special privileges. Now they are playing on The Islamic State cards to check the advancement of PAS which had been been a threat to them in the 1999 elections and after finding it as a useful tool by TDM, it has become now a flag bearer for UMNO to shout the "Islamic State" slogan every now and then to draw the attention of the Malays especially the extremist because UMNO has to appear more holy than PAS to be more appealing to the extremist group of Malays. UMNO knows they are playing a dangerous game and yet they choose to play with it. I am sure they can predict that PAS will up the ante on this and after a few ups on each others, Malaysia will end up like Pakistan which is currently undergoing a turmoil. The NEP policy is to divide the race and give them a blank check to plunder the country in the name of restructuring societies to deceive as many Malays as possible by making them believe that all Malays have special position in this country. In reality it is only UMNO and its cronies who are having all the special privileges.

Now they are playing on The Islamic State cards to check the advancement of PAS which had been been a threat to them in the 1999 elections and after finding it as a useful tool by TDM, it has become now a flag bearer for UMNO to shout the “Islamic State” slogan every now and then to draw the attention of the Malays especially the extremist because UMNO has to appear more holy than PAS to be more appealing to the extremist group of Malays. UMNO knows they are playing a dangerous game and yet they choose to play with it. I am sure they can predict that PAS will up the ante on this and after a few ups on each others, Malaysia will end up like Pakistan which is currently undergoing a turmoil.

]]> By: Utopia http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-41002 Utopia Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:17:15 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-41002 Malaysia is NO different from China now! It's very obvious that the government governs according to principle of a communist! Worse still, the government in Malaysia is obviously RACIST and RELIGIOUSLY EXTREME! They have no intention to live with the non-muslims and non-bumiputra! Declaring Malaysia as an Islamic country proves it all. Cmon, why yould one still vote for MCA, SUPP, Gerakan etc.? They are part of BN, means they endorse UMNO's claim!!! Malaysia is NO different from China now! It’s very obvious that the government governs according to principle of a communist! Worse still, the government in Malaysia is obviously RACIST and RELIGIOUSLY EXTREME!

They have no intention to live with the non-muslims and non-bumiputra! Declaring Malaysia as an Islamic country proves it all. Cmon, why yould one still vote for MCA, SUPP, Gerakan etc.? They are part of BN, means they endorse UMNO’s claim!!!

]]> By: blackacre http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-40995 blackacre Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:57:52 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40995 Dear Sotong, Hear Hear, however since when have they been bothered about responsibility and good governance? They are more worried about their pockets, it would serve them well to think about what others will remember them by, if they are remembered at all... Dear Sotong,

Hear Hear, however since when have they been bothered about responsibility and good governance? They are more worried about their pockets, it would serve them well to think about what others will remember them by, if they are remembered at all…

]]> By: sotong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-40970 sotong Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:04:07 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40970 Easy handouts/benefits, get rich quick NEP and exploiting fear and insecurity of race and religion are constantly used to get support/vote for the political parties. This is most narrow and irresponsible leadership and governance of the country. Easy handouts/benefits, get rich quick NEP and exploiting fear and insecurity of race and religion are constantly used to get support/vote for the political parties.

This is most narrow and irresponsible leadership and governance of the country.

]]> By: wizzerd http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-40962 wizzerd Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:36:58 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40962 Cheap votes for elections are up for grabs. And it's up to people like KJ, Hishamuddin and even minister-wannabe like Mat Taib to grab them fast. To an ordinary Malay/Muslim, they have been thinking that Malaysia is an Islamic country all along because Malaysia's population is predominantly Muslim. They couldn't care less about what was written in the Constitution. By reiterating the fact that it is a Islamic country is going to make those three chaps champions of the race and religion, and if that translates into precious votes..they will have the last laughs Cheap votes for elections are up for grabs. And it’s up to people like KJ, Hishamuddin and even minister-wannabe like Mat Taib to grab them fast. To an ordinary Malay/Muslim, they have been thinking that Malaysia is an Islamic country all along because Malaysia’s population is predominantly Muslim. They couldn’t care less about what was written in the Constitution. By reiterating the fact that it is a Islamic country is going to make those three chaps champions of the race and religion, and if that translates into precious votes..they will have the last laughs

]]> By: blackacre http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-40960 blackacre Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:28:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40960 Dear Hornbill, HAHAHa the sampan was never afloat, we are submarines from Russia Dear Hornbill,

HAHAHa the sampan was never afloat, we are submarines from Russia

]]> By: blackacre http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-2/#comment-40959 blackacre Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:26:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40959 Dear Toyol, We are in the twilight zone (by my definition at least) I say this because we as a country have lost our goals, what our forefathers set out to do 50 years ago have fallen by the wayside, plans hijacked by self serving individuals who got rich by promoting racial polarisation, even then there was still hope in the Mahathir Era when he envisaged Malaysia being a developed nation, alas Vision 2020 is now only an abandoned car project, half past six bakun dam, lots of office space in MMSC, a half bake soccer team and many more ( i wouln't want to bore you). We herefore are back to square one, with the loser politicians responsible for the calamities trying to convince their respective races that they are fighting hard!!! (for what?) Well the bottom line is this, we shall refuse to be baited and will speak loudly in voting such donkeys out, come the election Dear Toyol,

We are in the twilight zone (by my definition at least) I say this because we as a country have lost our goals, what our forefathers set out to do 50 years ago have fallen by the wayside, plans hijacked by self serving individuals who got rich by promoting racial polarisation, even then there was still hope in the Mahathir Era when he envisaged Malaysia being a developed nation, alas Vision 2020 is now only an abandoned car project, half past six bakun dam, lots of office space in MMSC, a half bake soccer team and many more ( i wouln’t want to bore you). We herefore are back to square one, with the loser politicians responsible for the calamities trying to convince their respective races that they are fighting hard!!! (for what?) Well the bottom line is this, we shall refuse to be baited and will speak loudly in voting such donkeys out, come the election

]]> By: Toyol http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-1/#comment-40948 Toyol Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:40:34 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40948 MCA is no longer relevant in BN. UMNO knows this, thats why they play the racial card all along. Malays comprise 65% of the population...thats close to two thirds. If all else fails, BN still have majority Malay support via UMNO. The last week of speeches is testament to this. The question is, what is MCA/MIC and the other component parties going to do about it. Are they just going to sit back and let UMNO do all the taliking? At the moment, the situation is tense. UMNO is calling for an Islamic State, against the fundamentals of our Constitution. The non-Islamic component parties are silent/divided but too timid to response. Are we heading into twilight zone? MCA is no longer relevant in BN. UMNO knows this, thats why they play the racial card all along. Malays comprise 65% of the population…thats close to two thirds. If all else fails, BN still have majority Malay support via UMNO. The last week of speeches is testament to this. The question is, what is MCA/MIC and the other component parties going to do about it. Are they just going to sit back and let UMNO do all the taliking?

At the moment, the situation is tense. UMNO is calling for an Islamic State, against the fundamentals of our Constitution. The non-Islamic component parties are silent/divided but too timid to response. Are we heading into twilight zone?

]]> By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-1/#comment-40924 ENDANGERED HORNBILL Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:59:17 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40924 The pigs of Animal FArm are all in the sinking sampan .... And all the King's horses and all the King's men could not put the sampan upright again! The pigs of Animal FArm are all in the sinking sampan ….

And all the King’s horses and all the King’s men could not put the sampan upright again!

]]> By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-1/#comment-40922 ENDANGERED HORNBILL Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:46:06 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40922 The sampan is sinking... The sampan is sinking…

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-1/#comment-40911 Jong Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:43:14 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40911 Where is the Prime Minister? Still with his Badawi-clan in ozzie land and running the country on auto-pilot when we are all so heated up back home? Perhaps he has 'sub-contract' his various ministries to the boys on the 4th floor! Where is the Prime Minister?

Still with his Badawi-clan in ozzie land and running the country on auto-pilot when we are all so heated up back home? Perhaps he has ‘sub-contract’ his various ministries to the boys on the 4th floor!

]]> By: sotong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-1/#comment-40909 sotong Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:31:23 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40909 Worsening religious intolerance in the last few decades is alarming and disturbing. BN leaders had betrayed a modern, progressive and multi religious country. Worsening religious intolerance in the last few decades is alarming and disturbing.

BN leaders had betrayed a modern, progressive and multi religious country.

]]> By: Jan http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-1/#comment-40906 Jan Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:16:47 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40906 All the keris wielding guy needs to do is growl "shaddup" and we see the so-called non malay leaders scampering all over with tails between their legs. These are the type of people who now represent the non malays. The future of this country and its minority people is very bleak indeed with the dominant race becoming more and more thuggish and arrogant. All the keris wielding guy needs to do is growl “shaddup” and we see the so-called non malay leaders scampering all over with tails between their legs. These are the type of people who now represent the non malays.
The future of this country and its minority people is very bleak indeed with the dominant race becoming more and more thuggish and arrogant.

]]> By: Godfather http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-1/#comment-40904 Godfather Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:10:53 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40904 Marmitecrab: No, the Malays are not united, which is why UMNO had to come up with the "Islamic State" statement in the first place. They have to compete with PAS on the Islamic front. Of course it is a calculated risk, and they know they risk alienating the Chinese, but like you said, they also know the Chinese are (a) not united and (b) worshippers of crumbs that UMNO can throw from the main dining table. They also know that MCA and Gerakan are so subservient that there will be no sqeaks from them, and even if there are, these can be extinguished very quickly with some sharp reprimands. So it is all a calculated risk, one which UMNO has taken to wrest some more Malay votes from PAS. Marmitecrab:

No, the Malays are not united, which is why UMNO had to come up with the “Islamic State” statement in the first place. They have to compete with PAS on the Islamic front. Of course it is a calculated risk, and they know they risk alienating the Chinese, but like you said, they also know the Chinese are (a) not united and (b) worshippers of crumbs that UMNO can throw from the main dining table. They also know that MCA and Gerakan are so subservient that there will be no sqeaks from them, and even if there are, these can be extinguished very quickly with some sharp reprimands.

So it is all a calculated risk, one which UMNO has taken to wrest some more Malay votes from PAS.

]]> By: Jong http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/comment-page-1/#comment-40902 Jong Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:58:48 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/07/22/power-sharing-in-bn-press-freedom-in-malaysia/#comment-40902 What power-sharing in this country when all along BN component parties eg MCA, MIC, Gerakan, PPP and many others have all along been thrown scraps to be content with, to keep them occupied and duduk diam-diam! Game's over. What power-sharing in this country when all along BN component parties eg MCA, MIC, Gerakan, PPP and many others have all along been thrown scraps to be content with, to keep them occupied and duduk diam-diam!

Game’s over.

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