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	<title>Comments on: Caucus public hearing becomes &#8220;closed session&#8221; &#8211; Police not prepared to be responsive</title>
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		<title>By: UTAR student murdered</title>
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		<dc:creator>UTAR student murdered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] weeks ago I was at the MBPJ civic Hall for the Parliamentary Caucus on Human Rights and Good Governance on Ã¢â‚¬Å“Fight Rising CrimeÃ¢â‚¬Â. Never in life had I ever felt so hopeful for a safe and secured society Ã¢â‚¬â€œ with more than 14 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] weeks ago I was at the MBPJ civic Hall for the Parliamentary Caucus on Human Rights and Good Governance on Ã¢â‚¬Å“Fight Rising CrimeÃ¢â‚¬Â. Never in life had I ever felt so hopeful for a safe and secured society Ã¢â‚¬â€œ with more than 14 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jimm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the top brass can always get away with corruptions, imagine those down the grade at grassroot level.
Remember, the law enforcers eventually are the only one that breaks the law most without getting captured once.
That&#039;s why we need to outsourced the currency printing contract to a local company so that we can overprint the quantity to &#039;feed&#039; the people.
Well, data entry are carried by human. Human does make error. 
As long as the error is meant to be there then there are no error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the top brass can always get away with corruptions, imagine those down the grade at grassroot level.<br />
Remember, the law enforcers eventually are the only one that breaks the law most without getting captured once.<br />
That&#8217;s why we need to outsourced the currency printing contract to a local company so that we can overprint the quantity to &#8216;feed&#8217; the people.<br />
Well, data entry are carried by human. Human does make error.<br />
As long as the error is meant to be there then there are no error.</p>
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		<title>By: Libra2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libra2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cinapek said &quot;citing the higher percentage of crime solved by the PDRM compared to Interpol standards.&quot;

This is how crimes are solved. They catch one guy or a small gang and then go on to say, &quot;With this arrest, we have solved about 30 cases committed by them.&quot;
Going by this, they could just a few arbitrary arrests of some foreigners and bingo hundreds of cases are solved. Better then interpol. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cinapek said &#8220;citing the higher percentage of crime solved by the PDRM compared to Interpol standards.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is how crimes are solved. They catch one guy or a small gang and then go on to say, &#8220;With this arrest, we have solved about 30 cases committed by them.&#8221;<br />
Going by this, they could just a few arbitrary arrests of some foreigners and bingo hundreds of cases are solved. Better then interpol.</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PDRM - the People&#039;s Police? Tell me a better joke.

PDRM is a law unto itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PDRM &#8211; the People&#8217;s Police? Tell me a better joke.</p>
<p>PDRM is a law unto itself.</p>
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		<title>By: WFH</title>
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		<dc:creator>WFH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To both the IGP and Deputy IGP, &quot;PDRM&quot; means &quot;Please-Don&#039;t-Rubbish-Me&quot;

Central to all the faults of Malaysian politics and power structures,  is the complete absence of the all-important virtue of HUMILITY. 

Me, a simple rakyat, only seek within the powerful, the courage to admit to themselves that they are  not infallible, that they should in all HUMILITY accept that weaknesses exist within themselves. If they seriously want to improve, they must put themselves down, from where they can only climb. No one can seriously and honestly claim to want to improve when they have already put themselves so high that there is no more room to move upwards.

If there is no longer room to go up, they can only fall. If that is to be it, I say then, let them. I&#039;ll be cheering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To both the IGP and Deputy IGP, &#8220;PDRM&#8221; means &#8220;Please-Don&#8217;t-Rubbish-Me&#8221;</p>
<p>Central to all the faults of Malaysian politics and power structures,  is the complete absence of the all-important virtue of HUMILITY. </p>
<p>Me, a simple rakyat, only seek within the powerful, the courage to admit to themselves that they are  not infallible, that they should in all HUMILITY accept that weaknesses exist within themselves. If they seriously want to improve, they must put themselves down, from where they can only climb. No one can seriously and honestly claim to want to improve when they have already put themselves so high that there is no more room to move upwards.</p>
<p>If there is no longer room to go up, they can only fall. If that is to be it, I say then, let them. I&#8217;ll be cheering.</p>
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		<title>By: jp23</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the 2nd Public Hearing, I am sure that by now ALL ON THE CAUCUS IS THOROUGHLY ACQUAINTED WITH what is happening on the ground  I fail to understand how elected REPRESENTATIIVES  have allowed things to reach this far.  It is time now for a plan of action Ã¢â‚¬â€œ there is enough of  information, suggestions and even accusations leveled at relevant authorities and the MPs especially of the Ruling Party. YOU DONÃ¢â‚¬â„¢T HAVE TO WAIT TILL YOU HEAR FROM THE WHOLE COUNTRY!
People of Malaysia RE-ELECTION should be on DELIVIERY OF PROMISES MADE AT THE TIME OF ELECTION NOT  on  WHAT IS DONE 6 -12 MONTHS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION.
Thank you YB Lim Kit Siang and all responsible for the Public Hearing but please DO NOT STOP THERE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the 2nd Public Hearing, I am sure that by now ALL ON THE CAUCUS IS THOROUGHLY ACQUAINTED WITH what is happening on the ground  I fail to understand how elected REPRESENTATIIVES  have allowed things to reach this far.  It is time now for a plan of action Ã¢â‚¬â€œ there is enough of  information, suggestions and even accusations leveled at relevant authorities and the MPs especially of the Ruling Party. YOU DONÃ¢â‚¬â„¢T HAVE TO WAIT TILL YOU HEAR FROM THE WHOLE COUNTRY!<br />
People of Malaysia RE-ELECTION should be on DELIVIERY OF PROMISES MADE AT THE TIME OF ELECTION NOT  on  WHAT IS DONE 6 -12 MONTHS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION.<br />
Thank you YB Lim Kit Siang and all responsible for the Public Hearing but please DO NOT STOP THERE.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinapek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cinapek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is no surprise that the PDRM still has this hangup.

Just look at the recalcitrant attitude of the Deputy IGP when he tried to shift the blame for the worsening crime situation to the public in his response to the hearing in JB a few days ago.

This denial syndrome is symtomatic of the top brass in the PDRM and going forward, the menace posed by this regressive thinking does not bode well for the country. His statement to the press completely misses the point. His head-in-the-sand attitude refuses to accept the fact that the absolute number of violent crimes committed in the country has gone up. He tries to justify that the PDRM is successful in crime prevention by citing the higher percentage of crime solved by the PDRM compared to Interpol standards. Even if they have solved a higher rate of crimes committed, the increase in crime rates means more members of the public are potential victims of crime and it is no consolation to a victim or their families after they have been robbed, raped or killed. The public are not a statistic but real human beings with parents, brothers, children, sisters, in short, families who will all be scarred for life should  a family member become a victim of crime. 

Instead of coming out with positive suggestions of how the public can help the police to reduce the crime rate, they instead resort to blaming the public for their failures. For every &quot;tak tahu&quot; there are probably tens if not hundreds who are prepared to help. In the two attempted burglaries of my neighbours&#039; homes  over the last one month, on both occassion, it was the public who came out to investigate and surround the houses before the police arrive. And in one of them, it was a member of the public who, though foolhardy, had the guts to enter the house to check if the burglars were still inside while two patrolmen and two detectives stood outside watching and entered only when they know it was safe. I know because I witnessed this.

As long as they are not prepared to accept their shortcomings, no improvements will happen. Until the day when they have enlightened leadership, the rot will stay and get worse. What can you say when they do not even have the simple discipline to ensure that the traffic policemen turn up without fail to control the traffic at the seriously congested junctions. As they say, 85% of an organization&#039;s problems are created by the management and this cannot be truer in the case of the PDRM. The management includes the Minister of Internal Security under whose ministry the responsibility for public security lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is no surprise that the PDRM still has this hangup.</p>
<p>Just look at the recalcitrant attitude of the Deputy IGP when he tried to shift the blame for the worsening crime situation to the public in his response to the hearing in JB a few days ago.</p>
<p>This denial syndrome is symtomatic of the top brass in the PDRM and going forward, the menace posed by this regressive thinking does not bode well for the country. His statement to the press completely misses the point. His head-in-the-sand attitude refuses to accept the fact that the absolute number of violent crimes committed in the country has gone up. He tries to justify that the PDRM is successful in crime prevention by citing the higher percentage of crime solved by the PDRM compared to Interpol standards. Even if they have solved a higher rate of crimes committed, the increase in crime rates means more members of the public are potential victims of crime and it is no consolation to a victim or their families after they have been robbed, raped or killed. The public are not a statistic but real human beings with parents, brothers, children, sisters, in short, families who will all be scarred for life should  a family member become a victim of crime. </p>
<p>Instead of coming out with positive suggestions of how the public can help the police to reduce the crime rate, they instead resort to blaming the public for their failures. For every &#8220;tak tahu&#8221; there are probably tens if not hundreds who are prepared to help. In the two attempted burglaries of my neighbours&#8217; homes  over the last one month, on both occassion, it was the public who came out to investigate and surround the houses before the police arrive. And in one of them, it was a member of the public who, though foolhardy, had the guts to enter the house to check if the burglars were still inside while two patrolmen and two detectives stood outside watching and entered only when they know it was safe. I know because I witnessed this.</p>
<p>As long as they are not prepared to accept their shortcomings, no improvements will happen. Until the day when they have enlightened leadership, the rot will stay and get worse. What can you say when they do not even have the simple discipline to ensure that the traffic policemen turn up without fail to control the traffic at the seriously congested junctions. As they say, 85% of an organization&#8217;s problems are created by the management and this cannot be truer in the case of the PDRM. The management includes the Minister of Internal Security under whose ministry the responsibility for public security lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle Lim

What Human Rights and Good Governance are you talking about.

Abdullah&#039;s national unity panel only consist of 11 non-bumis out of 55.

NEP masih ada......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Lim</p>
<p>What Human Rights and Good Governance are you talking about.</p>
<p>Abdullah&#8217;s national unity panel only consist of 11 non-bumis out of 55.</p>
<p>NEP masih ada&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Libra2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libra2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will be celebrating our 50th anniversary&quot;.. said izrafeil

What celebrations? What is there to celebrate? To me there is no celebration. 
This country is run by scumbags and it is going down the drain or rather into a bottomless pit. 
The administration, all the way down is one of impunity and arrogance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will be celebrating our 50th anniversary&#8221;.. said izrafeil</p>
<p>What celebrations? What is there to celebrate? To me there is no celebration.<br />
This country is run by scumbags and it is going down the drain or rather into a bottomless pit.<br />
The administration, all the way down is one of impunity and arrogance.</p>
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		<title>By: sotong</title>
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		<dc:creator>sotong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest loser from bad leadership and gross mismanagement of the country will be the bumi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest loser from bad leadership and gross mismanagement of the country will be the bumi.</p>
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		<title>By: Toyol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toyol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing will come out of this...nothing new here. If the report in Malaysia Kini is right which I think it is, how do we expect the crooks to protect us. The hearing is just for show. Time and time again we have been proven that this administration is just useless. Just how much more must we tolerate.

The trial of the poor Mongolian girl&#039;s murder has highlighted very serious mismanagement in the police force. Isn&#039;t this under the purview of the Internal Ministry or Defence Ministry!!! Who is in charge? PM or DPM?

To take out weapons and ammunition from the police force or military is not a problem, it seems, judging from the poor internal control procedures they have. Now you wonder who is running around our country with loaded weapons bearing police registration numbers! No wonder crime is prevalent here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing will come out of this&#8230;nothing new here. If the report in Malaysia Kini is right which I think it is, how do we expect the crooks to protect us. The hearing is just for show. Time and time again we have been proven that this administration is just useless. Just how much more must we tolerate.</p>
<p>The trial of the poor Mongolian girl&#8217;s murder has highlighted very serious mismanagement in the police force. Isn&#8217;t this under the purview of the Internal Ministry or Defence Ministry!!! Who is in charge? PM or DPM?</p>
<p>To take out weapons and ammunition from the police force or military is not a problem, it seems, judging from the poor internal control procedures they have. Now you wonder who is running around our country with loaded weapons bearing police registration numbers! No wonder crime is prevalent here.</p>
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		<title>By: izrafeil</title>
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		<dc:creator>izrafeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will be celebrating our 50th anniversary soon, yet we are still unable to discuss or have healthy debate on many issues, the discussion on Islam for example, or the mature debate on NEP/bumi rights, all with ISA undertone for harbringer to public discussions, we cannot even have live telecast of our Parliament sessions. Its time the Government comes clean and be more transparent, healthy public debate must be allowed, I am sure with this we can forge ahead as one nation, one Malaysia as we rise above ethnocentricty perpetuated by existing regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will be celebrating our 50th anniversary soon, yet we are still unable to discuss or have healthy debate on many issues, the discussion on Islam for example, or the mature debate on NEP/bumi rights, all with ISA undertone for harbringer to public discussions, we cannot even have live telecast of our Parliament sessions. Its time the Government comes clean and be more transparent, healthy public debate must be allowed, I am sure with this we can forge ahead as one nation, one Malaysia as we rise above ethnocentricty perpetuated by existing regime.</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When IGP Musa suspected corruption practices was published by RPK in Malaysia Today website, the whole of police force is a big question mark. He must step down for the police force to function again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When IGP Musa suspected corruption practices was published by RPK in Malaysia Today website, the whole of police force is a big question mark. He must step down for the police force to function again.</p>
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		<title>By: silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand their reason for not attending the caucus. They fear that it will turn into a police bashing session knowing how low they are in the public&#039;s esteem. If they have their gut some representative would have attended to hear what the public have to say about achieving some form of public security. Such is the condition of the force&#039;s public relations that they prefer to keep away from such an initiative to help them to perform better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand their reason for not attending the caucus. They fear that it will turn into a police bashing session knowing how low they are in the public&#8217;s esteem. If they have their gut some representative would have attended to hear what the public have to say about achieving some form of public security. Such is the condition of the force&#8217;s public relations that they prefer to keep away from such an initiative to help them to perform better.</p>
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		<title>By: pwcheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>pwcheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole country is in a mess, looks like we have no leader to give proper direction. Everything is just &quot;Tak Tahu&quot; and that is why the police who is being pampered with a special pay increase just could not be bothered about the plight of the people.
 
   Within the police force themselves, everything is also in a mess as judging from evidences from The Mongolian beauty trail which reveal a lot of mismanagement occurring within the police force. So if they cannot hold responsibilities among themselves how can we expect them to be responsible for the safety of the citizens. 

   The only thing the police can show is their power mostly towards the innocent. Most of them are just corrupted to the core. It is a very difficult disease to cure as the government itself are not willing to wage an all out war against the police to weed out the corrupted and compelled them to move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole country is in a mess, looks like we have no leader to give proper direction. Everything is just &#8220;Tak Tahu&#8221; and that is why the police who is being pampered with a special pay increase just could not be bothered about the plight of the people.</p>
<p>   Within the police force themselves, everything is also in a mess as judging from evidences from The Mongolian beauty trail which reveal a lot of mismanagement occurring within the police force. So if they cannot hold responsibilities among themselves how can we expect them to be responsible for the safety of the citizens. </p>
<p>   The only thing the police can show is their power mostly towards the innocent. Most of them are just corrupted to the core. It is a very difficult disease to cure as the government itself are not willing to wage an all out war against the police to weed out the corrupted and compelled them to move.</p>
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