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This religion- ISxxM is synonym with TERRORISME

Only after that are they seperated, divided, scattered and made to difference each other.

Other races come into the picture, other religion and other languages.

The objective of the secondary religion, races and languages are to only improvise, not to contracdict the fundamental value of humanity.

Is something that seperates a healthy, sensible and caring mother from her infant called religion?
Is something that forces people to eat what they have learned to respect called religion?

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Truly the fact that there are many types of muslims – moderates, extremists, religious etc – as there are many denominations in that religion we can already presume that there is no humanly correct way of understanding what the texts truly mean for if we can know what the words truly mean, the existence of multiple schools of thought is illogical. It is Man, not religion, nor words, that kill; It is Man that ‘interprets’ and ‘understand’, not religion nor words; As such the problem with religion is the Man who Thinks he Knows.

Therefore, the correct direction to point the finger is at the people behind the ideas (and indeed it is ‘ideas’ for unless we are God, may we presume to know the Truth?). But there you see, even by pointing at them, I have presumed to judge them as wrong.

The problem with this country is that religion has been infused into our system of governance. A clear separation of ‘Church’ and State is fundamental for the preservation of peace, justice and tolerance. For who can the ppl turn to but the State in times of trouble? But if that State pledges allegiance to one side, who then? When religion is the justification for Law, then any interpretation of the Law is flawed for the reasons I have mentioned above.

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Anyway, my two cents on the apostate issue is that the civil courts/parliament should take this jurisdiction away from the syariah courts. It is illogical, unconstitutional, as well as unconscionable that a group gets to decide whether or not a member may leave it. While it may dictate the terms of its entry, it should not be left to decide how one may leave it. It’s like a bad Chinese Triad movie.

has the religion substituted your conscience with masochistic urges?

the sight of our PM touting islam hadhari in russia while this happens undeterred in his own country fills me with disgust. He fits the description of a hypocrite quite nicely.

*** If you are selective in interpreting the holy books and not fully understand the circumtances at that time and its relevancy to the present, it could be a destructive and violent source of reference. ***

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Oh, I tell you that those verses I quoted are very much relevent for all time, place & circumstances. Islam @ the “religion of peace” is perpetually at war with the infidels. Islam has separated the world into darul Islam (house of Islam) & darul Harb (house of war).

So the Quranic verses are supposed to be Allah’s own words. As such, verses 9:5 & 9:29 are still applicable in this modern times, as much as it was more than 1400 years ago in Arabia.

The reason these Quranic laws are NOT applied to us non-Muslims in all Islamic countries is because the Islamic caliphate has NOT been reestablished yet.

And yet even you (a Muslim) admit that these verses are very destructive & violent. It’s these verses (ayats) that give inspiration to jihadists, alongside other verses & hadiths.

I wonder how a “religion of peace” can actually look upon such verses for inspiration & still call itself the “religion of peace”.

On the other hand, back in Malaysia, I went into a shop selling Levi Jeans. Tried a few pairs and not to my satisfaction, I went out witout buying any. No one stopped or force me to buy. Why? Because Levi is a popular and high quality product. It does not fear losing any customer. For any one customer who rejected the jean, there would be thousand clamouring to own one.

Similarly, if a religion is a true one, it must not fear any one walking out of it. Being a Christian, our church does not stop any one leaving us. Because we know that there are thousand more who would want to joing us!!! We know that we have the truth.

And to have a ruling made as in the case of Revathi is another of the way things seem to be moving for the state of the religion in Malaysia. The Syariah court reigns supreme over the constitution and civil law in the country. Little wonder that an act of renouncing Islam is now considered “treacherous”. Islam, to those who want to make capital out of it, in Malaysia equals Country and Government. What cockamammy!

With due respect to Islam, its followers are not doing justice to its teachings. And that leads to the question of are these followers true followers of the faith and religion? Or more alarmingly, are they really for political capital? By such actions and activities taken of late, Islam is being subjected to a kind of bashing that does not warrant its true callings. As one of the comments givers said, this stems from an insecurity from the lack of conviction towards and strength in the faith by the so-called followers. The religion is practised by strong-armed tactics and bullying rather than by the willing and accepting minds – in true form of the belief – and the practice is therefore reprehensible. Who in his right mind would want to follow a practice that is made on earth and not in heaven!