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		<title>By: MWong</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-2/#comment-33188</link>
		<dc:creator>MWong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diaperhead, 

Ive to agree with u..(maybe except the part that m naive), coz i&#039;ve met many sons and daughters of the Menteri-menteri here in the UK...

Yes, that&#039;s y Msia has no time to wait..coz we&#039;re a NO future country under BN govt..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diaperhead, </p>
<p>Ive to agree with u..(maybe except the part that m naive), coz i&#8217;ve met many sons and daughters of the Menteri-menteri here in the UK&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s y Msia has no time to wait..coz we&#8217;re a NO future country under BN govt..</p>
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		<title>By: DiaperHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiaperHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MWong,


You sound so terribly naive for a 20-yr old! Do you think these guys are concerned about whether the country is going to the dogs? Hell no! All they care is make money while the sun shines. They already have prime properties scattered in London, Paris,  New York, San Francisco, Bahamas, Vancouver not to mention Perth, Sydney and Melbourne., Hong Kong and Macao. The world is their playground.

Malaysia? Who cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MWong,</p>
<p>You sound so terribly naive for a 20-yr old! Do you think these guys are concerned about whether the country is going to the dogs? Hell no! All they care is make money while the sun shines. They already have prime properties scattered in London, Paris,  New York, San Francisco, Bahamas, Vancouver not to mention Perth, Sydney and Melbourne., Hong Kong and Macao. The world is their playground.</p>
<p>Malaysia? Who cares.</p>
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		<title>By: MWong</title>
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		<dc:creator>MWong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the govt is still slackin&#039; away @ the costs of people&#039;s time, in another 20, 30, even 50 yrs to come , Msia will be still the same if not worse off..

The future for MALAYSIANS (be it bumi or non-Malays) are bleak. Im @ my mid-20&#039;s (given blessed with good health), time will prove me ( or many of us) right or wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the govt is still slackin&#8217; away @ the costs of people&#8217;s time, in another 20, 30, even 50 yrs to come , Msia will be still the same if not worse off..</p>
<p>The future for MALAYSIANS (be it bumi or non-Malays) are bleak. Im @ my mid-20&#8242;s (given blessed with good health), time will prove me ( or many of us) right or wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It got nothing to do with the age of a nation, it got more to do with the civilisation!!! Please dont always use the excuse that we are a young nation to justify ourselves to be rated third class in every thing!!! Look no further and you will see a vibrant young nation which is younger than Malaysia and rated first class in many things!!! Please dont always says that we are a big country and that&#039;s the reason why we have so much problems, we are no bigger than many many well managed/first world countries in the world!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It got nothing to do with the age of a nation, it got more to do with the civilisation!!! Please dont always use the excuse that we are a young nation to justify ourselves to be rated third class in every thing!!! Look no further and you will see a vibrant young nation which is younger than Malaysia and rated first class in many things!!! Please dont always says that we are a big country and that&#8217;s the reason why we have so much problems, we are no bigger than many many well managed/first world countries in the world!!!</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malaysia is not yet 50 years old compared to 200 years in the case of the  United States. Malaysia is very much still a young fart. Give her time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia is not yet 50 years old compared to 200 years in the case of the  United States. Malaysia is very much still a young fart. Give her time.</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Malaysia was not alone, it does not make her less wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Malaysia was not alone, it does not make her less wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thus, help should be based on needs, but not based on race or religion.&quot; Loh


Malaysia is not alone. The United States which is a 200 year old democracy is still struggling with the same issues - with all the legislation aimed at making racial discrimination illegal, racism is still a huge issue here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thus, help should be based on needs, but not based on race or religion.&#8221; Loh</p>
<p>Malaysia is not alone. The United States which is a 200 year old democracy is still struggling with the same issues &#8211; with all the legislation aimed at making racial discrimination illegal, racism is still a huge issue here.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The attempt by some readers to compare Malaysia to South Africa and its apartheid policies, if this is not a gross exaggeration of the facts and a distortion of the truth, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know what is.

Are there in Malaysia, race laws touching every aspect of social life, including a prohibition of marriage between Malays and non-Malays, an Act like the Population Registration Act of South Africa requiring that all Malaysians be racially classified into one of three categories: brown, yellow, black or mixed (of mixed descent). Classification into these categories being based on appearance, social acceptance, and descent. The Home Affairs Ministry responsible for the classification of the citizenry? Non-compliance with the race laws are dealt with harshly. All non-Malays are required to carry Ã¢â‚¬Å“pass booksÃ¢â‚¬Â containing fingerprints, photo and information on access when they enter Malay areas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The attempt by some readers to compare Malaysia to South Africa and its apartheid policies, if this is not a gross exaggeration of the facts and a distortion of the truth, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know what is.</p>
<p>Are there in Malaysia, race laws touching every aspect of social life, including a prohibition of marriage between Malays and non-Malays, an Act like the Population Registration Act of South Africa requiring that all Malaysians be racially classified into one of three categories: brown, yellow, black or mixed (of mixed descent). Classification into these categories being based on appearance, social acceptance, and descent. The Home Affairs Ministry responsible for the classification of the citizenry? Non-compliance with the race laws are dealt with harshly. All non-Malays are required to carry Ã¢â‚¬Å“pass booksÃ¢â‚¬Â containing fingerprints, photo and information on access when they enter Malay areas?</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loh wrote:
From the notes kept by Tun Dr. Ismail, it was clear that Artile 153 was meant to help Malays to catch up with the other races in the country, and it was his belief that Malays would in time forgo those provisions in Article 153. The special provisions was for 15 years, and subject to review. The review did not come. Assuming that after the first review in 1972, the majority considered it necessary to extend the Article for 2/3 of the original 15 years, then the next review should be held in 1982. Let us further assume that at every review, the extension would be for 2/3 of the previous period. By 2002, after numerous extensions, the Article would expire.

I think that as a country, there should not be any preferential treatment for any persons based on race or religion, just like in a family, the parent sould treat their children equally, good or bad. It is true that not every person irrespective of race or religion would be able to cope with the challenge in life. For them special assistance might be needed, and the government should be the first to provide such assisance. Thus, help should be based on needs, but not based on race or religion.

Political parties and associations of people are the normal organisations which channel the wishes of the people to establish modern governments of the people, by the people(their representatives), and for the people. Unfortunately the founders of Malaya who agreed among themselves of the give and take among the races were ousted before they could remove any provisions which could be abused by their successors. Today we see that Article 153 is looked upon as the right of Malays to enjoy position of Malay Ketuanan. Days after the May 13 incidents, Tun Razak who was earier appointed by the Tunku as the Director of National Operation to the NOC, but as announced by Tunku was to report to Tunku, announced that he as the Director reported to the King. That announcement was in fact a coup d&#039;etat fait accompli. The NEP was a convenient announcement to put the blame of the disturbances to economic disparity between the races. In fact between 1957 and 1969, apart from implementing Article 153, the government developed over a million acres of rubber and palm oil plantation, for the benefits of exclusively Malays settlers. Over 100,000 Malay households or 15% of Malays population had a direct benefit from the Felda scheme. The government claimed that the Malays had only 1.43% of equity share capital in 1970, but with the FELDA plantations, the Malays had a networth of not less than 15% in that year alone. The special assitance given to Malays in civil service employment, scholarships, as well as the FELDA schemes, and other assistance provided by MARA during Tunku&#039;s watch would have satisfied the fair thinking Malays about the special favour afforded them. But the coup d&#039;etat needed a cover-up. That crisis provided an opportunity seized upon by new Malays who expertly exploited the provson of article 160(2), in particular, Makmaks presented themselves as saviours of the Malay race.

We do not ask Malays to have special responsibility for the special right; since the constitution did not envisage special right for Malays. Yes, we ask Malays who have the majority in number to evaluate whether they are better now than they were before. If they were not, then they should let the opposition, PAS, PKR, and DAP has a chance to replace BN. 
26/06 05:11:06</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loh wrote:<br />
From the notes kept by Tun Dr. Ismail, it was clear that Artile 153 was meant to help Malays to catch up with the other races in the country, and it was his belief that Malays would in time forgo those provisions in Article 153. The special provisions was for 15 years, and subject to review. The review did not come. Assuming that after the first review in 1972, the majority considered it necessary to extend the Article for 2/3 of the original 15 years, then the next review should be held in 1982. Let us further assume that at every review, the extension would be for 2/3 of the previous period. By 2002, after numerous extensions, the Article would expire.</p>
<p>I think that as a country, there should not be any preferential treatment for any persons based on race or religion, just like in a family, the parent sould treat their children equally, good or bad. It is true that not every person irrespective of race or religion would be able to cope with the challenge in life. For them special assistance might be needed, and the government should be the first to provide such assisance. Thus, help should be based on needs, but not based on race or religion.</p>
<p>Political parties and associations of people are the normal organisations which channel the wishes of the people to establish modern governments of the people, by the people(their representatives), and for the people. Unfortunately the founders of Malaya who agreed among themselves of the give and take among the races were ousted before they could remove any provisions which could be abused by their successors. Today we see that Article 153 is looked upon as the right of Malays to enjoy position of Malay Ketuanan. Days after the May 13 incidents, Tun Razak who was earier appointed by the Tunku as the Director of National Operation to the NOC, but as announced by Tunku was to report to Tunku, announced that he as the Director reported to the King. That announcement was in fact a coup d&#8217;etat fait accompli. The NEP was a convenient announcement to put the blame of the disturbances to economic disparity between the races. In fact between 1957 and 1969, apart from implementing Article 153, the government developed over a million acres of rubber and palm oil plantation, for the benefits of exclusively Malays settlers. Over 100,000 Malay households or 15% of Malays population had a direct benefit from the Felda scheme. The government claimed that the Malays had only 1.43% of equity share capital in 1970, but with the FELDA plantations, the Malays had a networth of not less than 15% in that year alone. The special assitance given to Malays in civil service employment, scholarships, as well as the FELDA schemes, and other assistance provided by MARA during Tunku&#8217;s watch would have satisfied the fair thinking Malays about the special favour afforded them. But the coup d&#8217;etat needed a cover-up. That crisis provided an opportunity seized upon by new Malays who expertly exploited the provson of article 160(2), in particular, Makmaks presented themselves as saviours of the Malay race.</p>
<p>We do not ask Malays to have special responsibility for the special right; since the constitution did not envisage special right for Malays. Yes, we ask Malays who have the majority in number to evaluate whether they are better now than they were before. If they were not, then they should let the opposition, PAS, PKR, and DAP has a chance to replace BN.<br />
26/06 05:11:06</p>
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		<title>By: Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count Dracula, and dawsheng:

Thank you for your interest in my comments.

Yes, to do the wrong thing right would make it worse!

The NEP was needed to cover up the fact that a coup was undertaken. NEP was the government&#039;s answer when it pretended that May 13 was an economic issue when the government knew very well that it was the results of actions by a powerful character in Selangor who  needed &#039;something drastic&#039; to retain power.

NEP in its original language was to use a racial approach to make jobs, professions and economic functions not identified with race. That was not needed in 1969 when Article 153 was about to run its course in 1972. So, the win-win formula for the government which had stolen power was to put the blame of the riot on the  jealousy of the Malays at the success in economic field of the non-Malays. That explanation put the Malays in bad light, and that is why the Malays now would want to say that because they had been bullied since the 15th century, and so NEP should remain, as claimed by the DPM and his ilks.

A democratic government is by the people, for the people, and of the people. When it becomes a government for only some of the people, and by some of them, then these &#039;some of the people&#039; would act like a gang, and then use the power of the state to bully the minority. The gang would more easily get support from gang members, and they together when in majority can appear to be democratically elected. That is the effect of divide and rule. UMNO used Article 153, and NEP to stay in power, as a gang!

If the government is for all the people, NEP should not be in its policy consideration. Help and assistance to the people cannot be depended on the race and religion of the beneficiaries. All citizens belong the the same class, and they deserve equal opportunities. When they needed help then they are the unfortunate lot which the government is obliged to help. In fact in the developed world, there are also non government organizations which worked to assist the citizens. 

It appeared to be a short cut to provide assistance to people based on race and religion so that the different races would appear to be on the same footing. No two persons can be equal because there are too many characteristics that could not be assigned tangible value where the weighted average could be accepted as a measure for comparison. It is much worse when more persons, such as a community is involved.

The NEP set the figure of 30% of equity share as a target. Then statistics become the subject of manupulation. To begin with, if the networth of FELDA scheme alone with its million plus acres of palm oil and rubber plantation computed, just like networth of the estates of Harrison, and Sime Darby, which were then branches of foreign company whose net worth were included in the equity computation, the Malays&#039; share of equity would have been more than 18% in 1970 rather than the 1.43 per cent as quoted in official documents. And now the government is silent when ASLI&#039;s report said that the Malays had more than 30% of the equity which is the target of NEP, and NEP should end. 

It is UMNO&#039;s pledge to have NEP, and it acts like a gang. If the opposition follows UMNO way to have NEP, it is then also a gang. If the government is run by a gang, then we are finished. Yes we need to throw out UMNO and BN, and we should have this with the support of the Malays. It is the Malays who allowed UMNO the indulgence even when UMNO&#039;s action on NEP is not islamic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count Dracula, and dawsheng:</p>
<p>Thank you for your interest in my comments.</p>
<p>Yes, to do the wrong thing right would make it worse!</p>
<p>The NEP was needed to cover up the fact that a coup was undertaken. NEP was the government&#8217;s answer when it pretended that May 13 was an economic issue when the government knew very well that it was the results of actions by a powerful character in Selangor who  needed &#8216;something drastic&#8217; to retain power.</p>
<p>NEP in its original language was to use a racial approach to make jobs, professions and economic functions not identified with race. That was not needed in 1969 when Article 153 was about to run its course in 1972. So, the win-win formula for the government which had stolen power was to put the blame of the riot on the  jealousy of the Malays at the success in economic field of the non-Malays. That explanation put the Malays in bad light, and that is why the Malays now would want to say that because they had been bullied since the 15th century, and so NEP should remain, as claimed by the DPM and his ilks.</p>
<p>A democratic government is by the people, for the people, and of the people. When it becomes a government for only some of the people, and by some of them, then these &#8216;some of the people&#8217; would act like a gang, and then use the power of the state to bully the minority. The gang would more easily get support from gang members, and they together when in majority can appear to be democratically elected. That is the effect of divide and rule. UMNO used Article 153, and NEP to stay in power, as a gang!</p>
<p>If the government is for all the people, NEP should not be in its policy consideration. Help and assistance to the people cannot be depended on the race and religion of the beneficiaries. All citizens belong the the same class, and they deserve equal opportunities. When they needed help then they are the unfortunate lot which the government is obliged to help. In fact in the developed world, there are also non government organizations which worked to assist the citizens. </p>
<p>It appeared to be a short cut to provide assistance to people based on race and religion so that the different races would appear to be on the same footing. No two persons can be equal because there are too many characteristics that could not be assigned tangible value where the weighted average could be accepted as a measure for comparison. It is much worse when more persons, such as a community is involved.</p>
<p>The NEP set the figure of 30% of equity share as a target. Then statistics become the subject of manupulation. To begin with, if the networth of FELDA scheme alone with its million plus acres of palm oil and rubber plantation computed, just like networth of the estates of Harrison, and Sime Darby, which were then branches of foreign company whose net worth were included in the equity computation, the Malays&#8217; share of equity would have been more than 18% in 1970 rather than the 1.43 per cent as quoted in official documents. And now the government is silent when ASLI&#8217;s report said that the Malays had more than 30% of the equity which is the target of NEP, and NEP should end. </p>
<p>It is UMNO&#8217;s pledge to have NEP, and it acts like a gang. If the opposition follows UMNO way to have NEP, it is then also a gang. If the government is run by a gang, then we are finished. Yes we need to throw out UMNO and BN, and we should have this with the support of the Malays. It is the Malays who allowed UMNO the indulgence even when UMNO&#8217;s action on NEP is not islamic.</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Naaaah!Just throw it into the toilet and flush it away.&quot; Count Dracula

Great idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Naaaah!Just throw it into the toilet and flush it away.&#8221; Count Dracula</p>
<p>Great idea!</p>
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		<title>By: shaolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 03:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Not Need to go too far, our country also Practise
APARTHEID POLICY, More popularly known as &#039;Walking
Stick Policy&#039; Or WSP!!

New NEP Is Like Malays&#039; SOUL,
Without NEP Is Likened To Malays Without SOUL!

Monkeys Are Protected Species Inside Zoos,
Malays Are Protected Species Outside Zoos!!

IF We See Malays With &#039;Walking Sticks&#039;,
We Know They Are Protected Species;

IF We See Malays Without &#039;Walking Sticks&#039;,
We Know They Are Walking TALL!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Not Need to go too far, our country also Practise<br />
APARTHEID POLICY, More popularly known as &#8216;Walking<br />
Stick Policy&#8217; Or WSP!!</p>
<p>New NEP Is Like Malays&#8217; SOUL,<br />
Without NEP Is Likened To Malays Without SOUL!</p>
<p>Monkeys Are Protected Species Inside Zoos,<br />
Malays Are Protected Species Outside Zoos!!</p>
<p>IF We See Malays With &#8216;Walking Sticks&#8217;,<br />
We Know They Are Protected Species;</p>
<p>IF We See Malays Without &#8216;Walking Sticks&#8217;,<br />
We Know They Are Walking TALL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DarkHorse</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-1/#comment-32826</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkHorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time we forge a different coalition to run the government. Can we do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time we forge a different coalition to run the government. Can we do that?</p>
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		<title>By: pwcheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-1/#comment-32813</link>
		<dc:creator>pwcheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this NEP policy has got most Malaysians on their nerves including many BUMIS who have no UMNO connections and foreigners are not spared. That is why people are so fed up with it that even protocol can fly. 
   This policy had only benefited a few and rob off the opportunities of many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this NEP policy has got most Malaysians on their nerves including many BUMIS who have no UMNO connections and foreigners are not spared. That is why people are so fed up with it that even protocol can fly.<br />
   This policy had only benefited a few and rob off the opportunities of many.</p>
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		<title>By: Count Dracula</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-1/#comment-32793</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Dracula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To dismantle NEP will have to start from education in school.&quot; Dawsheng


Naaaah!Just throw it into the toilet and flush it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To dismantle NEP will have to start from education in school.&#8221; Dawsheng</p>
<p>Naaaah!Just throw it into the toilet and flush it away.</p>
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		<title>By: Count Dracula</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-1/#comment-32790</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Dracula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a clear and important difference between doing the right thing, and doing the thing right.&quot; Loh

Yep. &quot;Doing the right thing, and doing the thing right.&quot; How about doing the wrong thing right?

&quot;It is wrong to have NEP as interpreted by BN. &quot; Loh

How could they be wrong when they were the ones (at least UMNO-MCA-MIC) who  introduced the policy? You mean to say they don&#039;t what they are doing?! Of course, they knew  the policy they forged.


&quot;NEP was needed to cover up the coup of 1969.&quot; Loh

You confused the action from the reaction, the cause from what was caused. The coup if we could call it that was followed by a policy to enrich the Malays at the expense of the non-Malays, by a policy of robbing Paul to pay Peter.

Or was it the cause of Peter having nothing much to begin with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a clear and important difference between doing the right thing, and doing the thing right.&#8221; Loh</p>
<p>Yep. &#8220;Doing the right thing, and doing the thing right.&#8221; How about doing the wrong thing right?</p>
<p>&#8220;It is wrong to have NEP as interpreted by BN. &#8221; Loh</p>
<p>How could they be wrong when they were the ones (at least UMNO-MCA-MIC) who  introduced the policy? You mean to say they don&#8217;t what they are doing?! Of course, they knew  the policy they forged.</p>
<p>&#8220;NEP was needed to cover up the coup of 1969.&#8221; Loh</p>
<p>You confused the action from the reaction, the cause from what was caused. The coup if we could call it that was followed by a policy to enrich the Malays at the expense of the non-Malays, by a policy of robbing Paul to pay Peter.</p>
<p>Or was it the cause of Peter having nothing much to begin with?</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-1/#comment-32769</link>
		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If a new government needed NEP to come into power, then the government that can sleep with the devil cannot be trusted.&quot; Loh

Which govt is sleeping with the devil now? We have only one govt. Can you trust BN govt? I don&#039;t and I am sure my reasons are valid. Will you sack this govt for all their wrongdoings? Or can you? If you can than there will not be a Malaysian govt that dares to sleep with the devil. And like it or not, even if you are able to vote in a new govt, they will still needs the NEP. To dismantle NEP will have to start from education in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a new government needed NEP to come into power, then the government that can sleep with the devil cannot be trusted.&#8221; Loh</p>
<p>Which govt is sleeping with the devil now? We have only one govt. Can you trust BN govt? I don&#8217;t and I am sure my reasons are valid. Will you sack this govt for all their wrongdoings? Or can you? If you can than there will not be a Malaysian govt that dares to sleep with the devil. And like it or not, even if you are able to vote in a new govt, they will still needs the NEP. To dismantle NEP will have to start from education in school.</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-1/#comment-32764</link>
		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is wrong to have NEP as interpreted by BN. NEP was needed to cover up the coup of 1969.&quot; Loh

You said it yourself, NEP has fallen into the wrong hands. You can have the best formula but if BN have it, the formula will be working only for a few privilege members and not for those in which the policies were desined for. The problem is the govt, hence every workable or sound policies tend to be abuse, this is because there existed this thing called corruption culture in BN and it is the root of all problems in Malaysia. Let&#039;s stop argueing about the NEP, for all we know it has a noble agenda, that is to distribute the wealth of this country evenly so that every Malaysians are well taken care of. Vote for DAP and let see they can do a better job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is wrong to have NEP as interpreted by BN. NEP was needed to cover up the coup of 1969.&#8221; Loh</p>
<p>You said it yourself, NEP has fallen into the wrong hands. You can have the best formula but if BN have it, the formula will be working only for a few privilege members and not for those in which the policies were desined for. The problem is the govt, hence every workable or sound policies tend to be abuse, this is because there existed this thing called corruption culture in BN and it is the root of all problems in Malaysia. Let&#8217;s stop argueing about the NEP, for all we know it has a noble agenda, that is to distribute the wealth of this country evenly so that every Malaysians are well taken care of. Vote for DAP and let see they can do a better job.</p>
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		<title>By: If not for people like Rommel, South Africa would still have Apartheid &#171; selak lagi dan lagi dan lagi&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-1/#comment-32758</link>
		<dc:creator>If not for people like Rommel, South Africa would still have Apartheid &#171; selak lagi dan lagi dan lagi&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: art-upon-mu</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/06/26/if-not-for-people-like-rommel-south-africa-would-still-have-apartheid/comment-page-1/#comment-32752</link>
		<dc:creator>art-upon-mu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Thierry Rommel, for creating a little ripple and excitement that puts Malaysia in the world news. The national tourism board appreciates very much your effort in helping to promote Visit Malaysia 2007.

However, on the other hand, Umnoputras are not happy over your speech that threatens to disrupt their well-designed, easy-to-come, and perpetual self-enriching policy. Beware, Thierry Rommel, for very soon you will be shown the keris, together with the war cry: &quot;Get loss if you don&#039;t like it here!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Thierry Rommel, for creating a little ripple and excitement that puts Malaysia in the world news. The national tourism board appreciates very much your effort in helping to promote Visit Malaysia 2007.</p>
<p>However, on the other hand, Umnoputras are not happy over your speech that threatens to disrupt their well-designed, easy-to-come, and perpetual self-enriching policy. Beware, Thierry Rommel, for very soon you will be shown the keris, together with the war cry: &#8220;Get loss if you don&#8217;t like it here!&#8221;</p>
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