Well written observations. Though religion and racial traditions – can form structures that continue to bind woman to their positions in the society. With the rise of blogs, we can break these traditions and structures by raising awareness and dissent and breaking these structures or at least modernize them or allow the community to break free from them.

There should be total liberation to decide what one wants of his or her life.

I really hope that will be true; when BN fork out another few millions in the next GE campaign, I am 100% sure they will win AGAIN… and AGAIN… and AGAIN. There is very little DAP or other oppositions can do when it comes to money politics.

I am sure the vast majority wont mind getting that extra cash to cast a vote for BN — RM200 may mean little to u and me, but possibly a month’s salary for the majority in the suburbs.

So what plan is there to MAKE ppl start voting out BN in the upcoming GE? I see only a slim chance in the end of the tunnel.

It certainly is not going to win more votes from the Malay Muslim women or Muslims generally. They are not about to rebel against their religious values and tradition. There are feminists among them, mostly western educated and are mostly professionals. But even they do not see the wisdom of rising against old traditional conservative Muslim values.

Continued politicization of the issue will only serve to alienate them more from the DAP.

The behavior of the MPs concerned is unacceptable and must be censured. But that is as far as it should go.

“Male chauvinism” would be a misnomer if applied only to the Malays on the strength of their culture alone. There is no dearth of “male chauvinist pigs” for want of a better term among the other races. It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with religion and its impact on culture and tradition.

You can accuse, for example, the Jews and the Mormons of being the same. The Mormons look upon their women as less than their equals, as weak and needing protection from the men, depending on their men for leadership and be their teacher in life. The Jews look upon their women as being different from the men. Values such as these can be found among orthodox Jews who feel that the place of women is in the home, raising their families and educating them – working outside the home only when necessary.

In Jewish synagogues you find the women physically separated from the men. Muslims likewise treat their women “as not their equals” – for want of a better term. In mosques and suraus you see women praying in different parts of the hall physically separated from their male counterparts – much like the Jews do. They are not allowed to pray together with the men. The way they treat their women is the same way women have been treated through the ages – according to the teachings of the Old Testament.

The Mormons are polygamous taking on many wives, marrying under aged children of their wives who are not their daughters, and taking care of the wives who have lost their husbands etc.

As far as Jews and Muslims are concerned, it is not a matter just of culture and tradition but religion. Both believe in the Old Testament. The Torah is the first five chapters of the Christian Bible. In the chapter on ‘Genesis’ there are references that God did not create Eve to be Adam’s equal.

Chinese are none of the above i.e. neither Christians, Jewish nor Muslims. That does not mean they do not take on multiple women as their partners. They may marry only one wife but may have as many as a couple mistresses if they can afford it. This tends to be the norm among successful businessmen. Religion has no role here.

Confucianism, Buddhism and Hinduism and Taoism are not religions in the way Christianity, Judaism and Islam are. Christianity, Judaism and Islam share the same Old Testament prophets.

This equality of the sexes, some would say, is a fairly recent ‘invention’. Remember that women were never given the right to vote until the turn of the last century – in the 1920s in the U.K. That is very recent. Prior to that they are treated as less than equals.

Christians were marrying cousins until the last century – like Muslims today. Polygamous marriage is allowed in the Old Testament (Koran) and Jesus Christ in the New Testament did not say anything about monogamy or polygamy or women being equal to men.

It has nothing to do with race.

This is not true PureMalaysian. At least we do not get distorted or “re-packaged” information in regards to the on-going political scene of the nation. We are aware the next GE is near and since now we are better informed, not only me but my family and friends will know who their votes should go to. Tommorow will not just be another whole new day but a more meaningful day.

We shall see.

Thats why, all these written here are just merely a media to channel our anger, thats all. Tomorrow will still be another whole new day for all of us. Period.

1. Do Malays by tradition and custom plays women on a lower ground than men?

2. Do Malays by tradition find it funnier to raise gender insensitive jokes?

Since this is a topic of male treatment towards female, let us talk about tne comment about “typical Malay chauvinists”. The question is do Malays put women on equal grounds with men.

1. Are there women leaders in the mosque/surau?

2. Why do women cover their heads? What does that symbolise? Does it symbolise a lower position?

3. And if that is ingrained in Malay culture, what are Malay male response towards this culture especially in growing feminism trend throughout the world? If it is based on a culture and tradition, at least it takes modern minds to break out of this tradition and give women the equal grounds they deserve.

Maybe the female blogger made the remark about “typical Malay chauvinists” from experience. Let us hear from other bloggers.

ARE MALAY MALE MORE CHAUVINIST THAN OTHER RACES? This may seem like a racist discussion but how can we improve Malaysia if we do not think, discuss and share our opinions so that others may hear the opinions and buck up and make Malaysia a better place.

Dream on, i don’t think this will ever happen here……….

Just wait and see.

From the online petition that I have started on the 11th May, I have gathered about 480 signatures.

Only 479 have voted in the petition and out of that 96.2% (461) have voted for these two MPs to be sacked.

Petition available at http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/whymycountry/

Having this kind of gatherings and sending a petition will not help much. Go beyond that.. they will bow to pressure only to the international community.

Talk to the EU folks, talk to Women’s Right organizations in US, Australia, etc. Ask them to support your effort. Make it big at international level. Ask these groups to tell their respective country’s imigration department to revoke these people’s visa. Ban these people from entering their countries.

Make these guys a shame to their family and they will into history as badly brought up men with no common sense in dignity.

Therefore, a fine and an apology should suffice. More than that would render the pressure groups looked infantile.