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	<title>Comments on: Ijok by-election &#8211; BN &#8220;kiasu&#8221; despite worst electoral corruption and most undemocratic campaigning in 50 yrs</title>
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		<title>By: Is democracy alive or dead? &#171; Thinking Aloud</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-12121</link>
		<dc:creator>Is democracy alive or dead? &#171; Thinking Aloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 00:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said. The Opposition parties had a huge opportunity to campaign and no one tried to stop them. Their top leaders were assembled there too,&#8221; the Deputy Prime Minister [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said. The Opposition parties had a huge opportunity to campaign and no one tried to stop them. Their top leaders were assembled there too,&#8221; the Deputy Prime Minister [...]</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10744</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Approach the nearest Malaysian embassy/High Commission for the answer. You are an absentee voter and you need to acquaint yourself  with the rules. Every vote counts.

First you need to put your name on the rolls. Otherwise you cannot vote. Being 21 merely qualifies you to vote - not the right to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Approach the nearest Malaysian embassy/High Commission for the answer. You are an absentee voter and you need to acquaint yourself  with the rules. Every vote counts.</p>
<p>First you need to put your name on the rolls. Otherwise you cannot vote. Being 21 merely qualifies you to vote &#8211; not the right to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: slashed</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10713</link>
		<dc:creator>slashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of voting, how can a malaysian student studying in a foreign country like myself vote? I&#039;m turning 21 (that&#039;s the voting age I think.. :/ ) and I really would like to vote. Can someone tell me how it&#039;s done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of voting, how can a malaysian student studying in a foreign country like myself vote? I&#8217;m turning 21 (that&#8217;s the voting age I think.. :/ ) and I really would like to vote. Can someone tell me how it&#8217;s done?</p>
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		<title>By: wong fp</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10703</link>
		<dc:creator>wong fp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was wrong! What the police did was too much. what can we do? 
Do we want this, even a simple, fundamental right to be taken away?
When the police stop a ceramah like that, the situation can turn chaotic. The opponents can also sabbotage the situation.
It ended peacefully. That was excellent! If not, the next day the opponents will accuse the oppositions for being unrulely. The general public will some how perceive negatively toward the oppositions. When the mass media is under the ruling parties control, they are so clever to creat that impression.
Helplessness is the feeling you get when the police is not acting fairly. 50 years a regime had been in power, what fairness do you want to talk about? Of course they want to perpetuate their rule!
I am looking forward to the day, one day, the people power will prevail. Then we will has a new Malaysia!
Folks, keep up the good works! Do our parts and don&#039;t forget to pray for a new Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was wrong! What the police did was too much. what can we do?<br />
Do we want this, even a simple, fundamental right to be taken away?<br />
When the police stop a ceramah like that, the situation can turn chaotic. The opponents can also sabbotage the situation.<br />
It ended peacefully. That was excellent! If not, the next day the opponents will accuse the oppositions for being unrulely. The general public will some how perceive negatively toward the oppositions. When the mass media is under the ruling parties control, they are so clever to creat that impression.<br />
Helplessness is the feeling you get when the police is not acting fairly. 50 years a regime had been in power, what fairness do you want to talk about? Of course they want to perpetuate their rule!<br />
I am looking forward to the day, one day, the people power will prevail. Then we will has a new Malaysia!<br />
Folks, keep up the good works! Do our parts and don&#8217;t forget to pray for a new Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: lakshy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10699</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said and well done a-malaysian.  I do the same, but that does not seem to be enough!  More needs to be done, when the masses are being misinformed and brainwashed by the mainstream media.  

Not many read the blogs and not many have access to internet in the rural areas.  And thats where umno&#039;s strength lies.

I say the same thing you do.....vote for any opposition, even if it&#039;s PAS!  

Malaysia needs an alternative group capable of forming a credible government.  That is the only way to keep the excesses of any political party in check.  Only when they have to outdo each other to please the rakyat will they be true wakil rakyat!  Otherwise with the existing ruling party, all excesses go unpunished.  We dont know how much more is being swept under the carpet!

I will vote for PAS if they stand in my constituency.  I say this because I personally know of cases of Indian and Chinese temples in Kelantan and Trengganu that had tried to obtain titles over the TOL lands they were built on from BN governemnts and did not succeed.  But PAS gave it to them.

The mainstream press highlights the logging in Kelantan, reaches the masses, but it fails to mention the same thing happening in Trengganu, Perak, etc.  All with political connections no doubt.  

Here in Ipoh we have parties taking the state government to court for granting a green lung to a developer.  And nobody questions how that particular land...which has been promised by the goverment (during a previous alienation exercise)to be gazetted as a green lung could end up being alienated for development.

By the way, from this case we also found out that the polo grounds, DR Park etc are all not gazetted as green luings or open spaces.  This is probably done so that someone can someday make huge sums by alienating this land for development.  I hope you dont have the same problems in your own areas and tamans.  Dont be surprised if everything disdappears .....for a fee.  As they say... Malaysia Boleh.  We will soon be like Indonesia which says....Bisa Pak.

Or we could chose to be like Kerala which votes in a new government in each election.  If we do the same, we can be sure that each government will expose the excesses of the previous one and take the culprits to court.  That will help clean up our politics, and we get good governance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said and well done a-malaysian.  I do the same, but that does not seem to be enough!  More needs to be done, when the masses are being misinformed and brainwashed by the mainstream media.  </p>
<p>Not many read the blogs and not many have access to internet in the rural areas.  And thats where umno&#8217;s strength lies.</p>
<p>I say the same thing you do&#8230;..vote for any opposition, even if it&#8217;s PAS!  </p>
<p>Malaysia needs an alternative group capable of forming a credible government.  That is the only way to keep the excesses of any political party in check.  Only when they have to outdo each other to please the rakyat will they be true wakil rakyat!  Otherwise with the existing ruling party, all excesses go unpunished.  We dont know how much more is being swept under the carpet!</p>
<p>I will vote for PAS if they stand in my constituency.  I say this because I personally know of cases of Indian and Chinese temples in Kelantan and Trengganu that had tried to obtain titles over the TOL lands they were built on from BN governemnts and did not succeed.  But PAS gave it to them.</p>
<p>The mainstream press highlights the logging in Kelantan, reaches the masses, but it fails to mention the same thing happening in Trengganu, Perak, etc.  All with political connections no doubt.  </p>
<p>Here in Ipoh we have parties taking the state government to court for granting a green lung to a developer.  And nobody questions how that particular land&#8230;which has been promised by the goverment (during a previous alienation exercise)to be gazetted as a green lung could end up being alienated for development.</p>
<p>By the way, from this case we also found out that the polo grounds, DR Park etc are all not gazetted as green luings or open spaces.  This is probably done so that someone can someday make huge sums by alienating this land for development.  I hope you dont have the same problems in your own areas and tamans.  Dont be surprised if everything disdappears &#8230;..for a fee.  As they say&#8230; Malaysia Boleh.  We will soon be like Indonesia which says&#8230;.Bisa Pak.</p>
<p>Or we could chose to be like Kerala which votes in a new government in each election.  If we do the same, we can be sure that each government will expose the excesses of the previous one and take the culprits to court.  That will help clean up our politics, and we get good governance.</p>
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		<title>By: a-malaysian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10673</link>
		<dc:creator>a-malaysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 07:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lakshy, for your information I had voted for the DAP for the past six elections. I am not a member of DAP but I spread the words individually to all my relatives and friends to vote for the oppositions wherever their constituency is.

But what you say is simply true, just express your thoughts in blogs and not really taking the right action will not help.

My statement:
&lt;b&gt;Act upon it, not just tell ourselves. You know who to vote comes the next GE, so lets walk together for change.&lt;/b&gt; still stands and I am calling everyone of you reading Kit&#039;s Blog to really have the heart for change and not being afraid.

This is not for ourselves but think about our future generations, what will happen to them if bn continue being racist, corruptions and non malays still treated as second class citizens, lack of University education for non malays and many more things that hurt us.

Fellow Malaysian, think hard and think very hard again.

&lt;b&gt;50 years is ENOUGH&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Vote For A Change&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Vote For Any Opposition&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Give Them A Chance To Change For A Better Malaysia&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Remember bn Is A Useless Grouping Of Self Serving, Corrupt, Dictator, Power Crazy, Racist, Kris waving, etc, etc type of parties.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lakshy, for your information I had voted for the DAP for the past six elections. I am not a member of DAP but I spread the words individually to all my relatives and friends to vote for the oppositions wherever their constituency is.</p>
<p>But what you say is simply true, just express your thoughts in blogs and not really taking the right action will not help.</p>
<p>My statement:<br />
<b>Act upon it, not just tell ourselves. You know who to vote comes the next GE, so lets walk together for change.</b> still stands and I am calling everyone of you reading Kit&#8217;s Blog to really have the heart for change and not being afraid.</p>
<p>This is not for ourselves but think about our future generations, what will happen to them if bn continue being racist, corruptions and non malays still treated as second class citizens, lack of University education for non malays and many more things that hurt us.</p>
<p>Fellow Malaysian, think hard and think very hard again.</p>
<p><b>50 years is ENOUGH</b><br />
<b>Vote For A Change</b><br />
<b>Vote For Any Opposition</b><br />
<b>Give Them A Chance To Change For A Better Malaysia</b><br />
<b>Remember bn Is A Useless Grouping Of Self Serving, Corrupt, Dictator, Power Crazy, Racist, Kris waving, etc, etc type of parties.</b></p>
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		<title>By: lakshy</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10663</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do pray Libra2 as Ijok will go to BN.  With all the goodies going theer, and all the ehavy weights campaining there, Ijok will definately vote for BN.  Lots of developmnent has been promised and some delivered, at what cost God only knows.

And with all this, by hook, (and most probably ) or by crook, BN will win at Ijok.  It will be a showcase of the support for TPM and that malaysians do not vote along racial lines.

It will be a sad 50th anniversary.

a-malaysian, we are all to blame.  We hide behind our computers and complain and criticise.  How many of us here are willing to put our money where our mouth is?  How many have voted for opposition before?  Christ, how many have even bothered to vote or even register to vote?

How many are DAP or PKR or PAS members.  If you feel so strongly about it, why dont we (myself included) join the opposition and do our part.

All this cheering &quot;bravo uncle Lim&quot;, is of not much use, if we dont do something about  it.

Or else we could all wait for it to get worse, and then try to leave.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do pray Libra2 as Ijok will go to BN.  With all the goodies going theer, and all the ehavy weights campaining there, Ijok will definately vote for BN.  Lots of developmnent has been promised and some delivered, at what cost God only knows.</p>
<p>And with all this, by hook, (and most probably ) or by crook, BN will win at Ijok.  It will be a showcase of the support for TPM and that malaysians do not vote along racial lines.</p>
<p>It will be a sad 50th anniversary.</p>
<p>a-malaysian, we are all to blame.  We hide behind our computers and complain and criticise.  How many of us here are willing to put our money where our mouth is?  How many have voted for opposition before?  Christ, how many have even bothered to vote or even register to vote?</p>
<p>How many are DAP or PKR or PAS members.  If you feel so strongly about it, why dont we (myself included) join the opposition and do our part.</p>
<p>All this cheering &#8220;bravo uncle Lim&#8221;, is of not much use, if we dont do something about  it.</p>
<p>Or else we could all wait for it to get worse, and then try to leave&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: gedebenavy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gedebenavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 05:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never stop admiring you for your courage to stand up to the might of the authority in defence of the rakyat and the country. However, to achieve the change of government, one must strategise and prepare for the next GE. Sit down with like minded parties and forge a united front to present to malaysian of a viable alternative. Stop refering to your party as opposition, it should read alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never stop admiring you for your courage to stand up to the might of the authority in defence of the rakyat and the country. However, to achieve the change of government, one must strategise and prepare for the next GE. Sit down with like minded parties and forge a united front to present to malaysian of a viable alternative. Stop refering to your party as opposition, it should read alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10651</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 05:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How can voters in a small town even contemplate voting for a party that draws its support from mat rempits dressed in black, with scorpion insignias, with sunglasses and who shout obscenities?&quot;

Well, this is what  freedom of expression is all about. The freedom to express our views however wrong they may be, however that is done is still freedom - with one caveat. That freedom of expression must not be at the expense of the freedom of others to express themselves.

These bouncers may shout and scream all the obscenities they like. In return you can shout your share although I do not believe you would want to do that. So long as no law is broken.

Intimidating behaviour has its effect only when one allows oneself to be intimidated. When a voter chooses  not to exercise his right to vote in fear of his own personal safety, it is a choice he makes. Isn&#039;t that what democracy is all about i.e. freedom of choice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How can voters in a small town even contemplate voting for a party that draws its support from mat rempits dressed in black, with scorpion insignias, with sunglasses and who shout obscenities?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, this is what  freedom of expression is all about. The freedom to express our views however wrong they may be, however that is done is still freedom &#8211; with one caveat. That freedom of expression must not be at the expense of the freedom of others to express themselves.</p>
<p>These bouncers may shout and scream all the obscenities they like. In return you can shout your share although I do not believe you would want to do that. So long as no law is broken.</p>
<p>Intimidating behaviour has its effect only when one allows oneself to be intimidated. When a voter chooses  not to exercise his right to vote in fear of his own personal safety, it is a choice he makes. Isn&#8217;t that what democracy is all about i.e. freedom of choice?</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10645</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How  can voters in a small town even contemplate voting for a party that draws its support from mat rempits dressed in black, with scorpion insignias, with sunglasses and who shout obscenities ?  The pictures of these hooligans ranting and raving and intimidating the Opposition are scary and should be a reminder to the people that at this day and age, we don&#039;t have to cower in fear or break into cold sweat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How  can voters in a small town even contemplate voting for a party that draws its support from mat rempits dressed in black, with scorpion insignias, with sunglasses and who shout obscenities ?  The pictures of these hooligans ranting and raving and intimidating the Opposition are scary and should be a reminder to the people that at this day and age, we don&#8217;t have to cower in fear or break into cold sweat.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10644</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not talk about justice now.  Justice will take care of itself when we have recovered the country from the bunch of thieves and change the way things are being done.  The concept of &quot;No change&quot; which is what the BN is telling the voters is one which needs to be ditched - and quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not talk about justice now.  Justice will take care of itself when we have recovered the country from the bunch of thieves and change the way things are being done.  The concept of &#8220;No change&#8221; which is what the BN is telling the voters is one which needs to be ditched &#8211; and quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10642</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have no choice but to look at &#039;change&#039; in the face and say, &quot; Let&#039;s roll!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have no choice but to look at &#8216;change&#8217; in the face and say, &#8221; Let&#8217;s roll!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10635</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Godfather

I think I can understand where you are going with that point, but my point is that how does anybody pick and choose who should face justice? 

That is precisely the way things have been going today. The small fish get picked but the big ones let go - because their possible destabilizing effect??

We sure do not want to replace somebody who plays God with our lives with another who plays God with our lives!

It ain&#039;t progress to replace one set of people who tell us what justice is, what we should be happy with and what we should not - and what justice is not. That would put us back where we begin i.e. on the slippery slopes to political Armageddon.


We cannot bring back the rule of law unless we bring back the rule  of law.

But that&#039;s just one issue.

I cannot speak for all you folks here but I can only speak for myself. 

We cannot have a limited float of the ringgit unless we first float the ringgit. We cannot free the interest rates unless we  free the interest  rates. We cannot make our central bank independent of interference by MoF until we make central bank independent of all interferences. We cannot revert to meritocracy until we abandon discrimination. We cannot stem corruption  unless we stem corruption and demonstrate to all and sundry i.e from the very powerful to the very least powerful e.g. the police constable patrolling our streets be they night or day, that it does not pay to be corrupt!


I expect changes where there should be changes. There should be changes in our monetary and fiscal policies to reduce M2 and stem inflation and revise the tax structure  taxing the rich so that the working class could have more to spend, make corporate Malaysia pay more so that that the working class among us pay less.

Ã¢â‚¬ËœChangeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ brings with it some tension, some uncertainty and instability because thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s the nature of Ã¢â‚¬ËœchangeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s what Ã¢â‚¬ËœchangeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Godfather</p>
<p>I think I can understand where you are going with that point, but my point is that how does anybody pick and choose who should face justice? </p>
<p>That is precisely the way things have been going today. The small fish get picked but the big ones let go &#8211; because their possible destabilizing effect??</p>
<p>We sure do not want to replace somebody who plays God with our lives with another who plays God with our lives!</p>
<p>It ain&#8217;t progress to replace one set of people who tell us what justice is, what we should be happy with and what we should not &#8211; and what justice is not. That would put us back where we begin i.e. on the slippery slopes to political Armageddon.</p>
<p>We cannot bring back the rule of law unless we bring back the rule  of law.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just one issue.</p>
<p>I cannot speak for all you folks here but I can only speak for myself. </p>
<p>We cannot have a limited float of the ringgit unless we first float the ringgit. We cannot free the interest rates unless we  free the interest  rates. We cannot make our central bank independent of interference by MoF until we make central bank independent of all interferences. We cannot revert to meritocracy until we abandon discrimination. We cannot stem corruption  unless we stem corruption and demonstrate to all and sundry i.e from the very powerful to the very least powerful e.g. the police constable patrolling our streets be they night or day, that it does not pay to be corrupt!</p>
<p>I expect changes where there should be changes. There should be changes in our monetary and fiscal policies to reduce M2 and stem inflation and revise the tax structure  taxing the rich so that the working class could have more to spend, make corporate Malaysia pay more so that that the working class among us pay less.</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬ËœChangeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ brings with it some tension, some uncertainty and instability because thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s the nature of Ã¢â‚¬ËœchangeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s what Ã¢â‚¬ËœchangeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ does.</p>
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		<title>By: Godfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My learned friend Undergrad2:  

Sometimes in the course of reconciliation, we may take the view that what is done is done, and that dredging up the past may not necessarily be the best thing to do.   I wouldn&#039;t go all out to bring corrupt leaders to justice.   I may let them retire in their own community in Perth.   However, I would go all out to change the way that things are done.  That, my friend, is not necessarily destabilizing.  The threat of instability is what the ruling elite would use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My learned friend Undergrad2:  </p>
<p>Sometimes in the course of reconciliation, we may take the view that what is done is done, and that dredging up the past may not necessarily be the best thing to do.   I wouldn&#8217;t go all out to bring corrupt leaders to justice.   I may let them retire in their own community in Perth.   However, I would go all out to change the way that things are done.  That, my friend, is not necessarily destabilizing.  The threat of instability is what the ruling elite would use.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/25/ijok-by-election-bn-kiasu-despite-worst-electroal-corruption-and-most-undemocratic-campaigning-in-50-yrs/comment-page-1/#comment-10610</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t agree that regime change necessarily results in social unrest, political instability or economic chaos. &quot; Godfather

The term &quot;regime change&quot; suggests that  &#039;change&#039; is forced. None of the smooth transition that you get to see. So there would necessarily  be  some amount of uncertainty, tension and, if not widespread social unrest, pockets of social unrest etc the effect of which will be destabilizing on the system. This is the characteristic of  &#039;change&#039; and more so in the case of &#039;regime change&#039; since  it will be externally initiated and internally resisted.

I expect to see changes in monetary and fiscal policies. I expect to see the floating  of the Malaysian Ringgit. I expect to see changes in our foreign policy with none of the anti-U.S. sentiment we now hear from BN leaders. I expect to see the end of quotas and closed tenders and none of the cronyism that we now see. 

I expect too to see corrupt leaders brought to justice. This includes the early retirement of certain members of the judiciary - and the prosecution of others where there is evidence of corruption.

The effect of all these changes would necessarily be destabilizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t agree that regime change necessarily results in social unrest, political instability or economic chaos. &#8221; Godfather</p>
<p>The term &#8220;regime change&#8221; suggests that  &#8216;change&#8217; is forced. None of the smooth transition that you get to see. So there would necessarily  be  some amount of uncertainty, tension and, if not widespread social unrest, pockets of social unrest etc the effect of which will be destabilizing on the system. This is the characteristic of  &#8216;change&#8217; and more so in the case of &#8216;regime change&#8217; since  it will be externally initiated and internally resisted.</p>
<p>I expect to see changes in monetary and fiscal policies. I expect to see the floating  of the Malaysian Ringgit. I expect to see changes in our foreign policy with none of the anti-U.S. sentiment we now hear from BN leaders. I expect to see the end of quotas and closed tenders and none of the cronyism that we now see. </p>
<p>I expect too to see corrupt leaders brought to justice. This includes the early retirement of certain members of the judiciary &#8211; and the prosecution of others where there is evidence of corruption.</p>
<p>The effect of all these changes would necessarily be destabilizing.</p>
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		<title>By: smeagroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>smeagroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle Kit

May I suggest all opposition parties to boycott GE. By doing so they will deprive the rakyat from getting goodies thrown in by the scum of scums. If till now the rakyat still wont wake up then they will never will coupled with the scare tactics employed by the scums. Instead of receiving rm36mil of goodies, let them be just contented with a mere rm200k worth of community hall every 5years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Kit</p>
<p>May I suggest all opposition parties to boycott GE. By doing so they will deprive the rakyat from getting goodies thrown in by the scum of scums. If till now the rakyat still wont wake up then they will never will coupled with the scare tactics employed by the scums. Instead of receiving rm36mil of goodies, let them be just contented with a mere rm200k worth of community hall every 5years.</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democracy is dead for UMNO buried it, the party has lost its struggles, principles and ideologies, UMNO has lost touch with reality, not only to the malay, but to every Malaysians. We witnessed how desperate UMNO had became in order to cling on to power, and subject Malaysians to further abuse and torture, finally we saw the country is sinking to oblivion, where it doesn&#039;t matter whether you are malay, chinese or indian, we are all in deep shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democracy is dead for UMNO buried it, the party has lost its struggles, principles and ideologies, UMNO has lost touch with reality, not only to the malay, but to every Malaysians. We witnessed how desperate UMNO had became in order to cling on to power, and subject Malaysians to further abuse and torture, finally we saw the country is sinking to oblivion, where it doesn&#8217;t matter whether you are malay, chinese or indian, we are all in deep shit.</p>
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		<title>By: slashed</title>
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		<dc:creator>slashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. If the ceramah was not an illegal assembly, on what grounds are the police basing their actions on? Surely if Uncle Kit is right, then he had no need to budge. The police officer had an obligation to identify himself, and to show cause. If not, he cannot touch anyone or even trying to take the mike. In this case, even if the police had legitimate reasons to stop the talk, there is still the matter of misconduct and the guilty should be punished.

Also, Anwar&#039;s ceramah was stopped on the basis of security. Yet there was no justification in my view as to why his ceramah was the one that had to be stopped; The matter may be different if BN chose the location first, and Keadilan knowingly and purposely chose the same but if not, then BN&#039;s ceramah should equally be stopped! Did the police is (wrongly) assume that Keadilan supporters are prone to attacking BN supporters/members - surely the same can be said about BN&#039;s ppl!

Am I missing something here? I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. If the ceramah was not an illegal assembly, on what grounds are the police basing their actions on? Surely if Uncle Kit is right, then he had no need to budge. The police officer had an obligation to identify himself, and to show cause. If not, he cannot touch anyone or even trying to take the mike. In this case, even if the police had legitimate reasons to stop the talk, there is still the matter of misconduct and the guilty should be punished.</p>
<p>Also, Anwar&#8217;s ceramah was stopped on the basis of security. Yet there was no justification in my view as to why his ceramah was the one that had to be stopped; The matter may be different if BN chose the location first, and Keadilan knowingly and purposely chose the same but if not, then BN&#8217;s ceramah should equally be stopped! Did the police is (wrongly) assume that Keadilan supporters are prone to attacking BN supporters/members &#8211; surely the same can be said about BN&#8217;s ppl!</p>
<p>Am I missing something here? I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: japankiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>japankiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope Malay can start to reliase that, not a chinese  or indian playing the racial card, but it use by BN as to gain their vote in the election.

Malay, Chinese, and indian are in united but BN are the one trying to seperate us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope Malay can start to reliase that, not a chinese  or indian playing the racial card, but it use by BN as to gain their vote in the election.</p>
<p>Malay, Chinese, and indian are in united but BN are the one trying to seperate us.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a load of shit!!! Is this a start that police is going to prevent Malaysians their rights during an election to hear all views?Well BN actually, not the police. Guess they only want us to hear BN views. Screw the idiots.

Ijok please teach them a lesson, please.

Wong Chun Wai - go fly kite. Not all of us are racist thinking like you.What if Ijok people like Khalid. Who did you vote for in last election? A chinese? 

May the best man stand and be elected. And win fair and square but that will be too much for BN to play fair. BN bukan JANTAN, Takut dan Kiasu!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a load of shit!!! Is this a start that police is going to prevent Malaysians their rights during an election to hear all views?Well BN actually, not the police. Guess they only want us to hear BN views. Screw the idiots.</p>
<p>Ijok please teach them a lesson, please.</p>
<p>Wong Chun Wai &#8211; go fly kite. Not all of us are racist thinking like you.What if Ijok people like Khalid. Who did you vote for in last election? A chinese? </p>
<p>May the best man stand and be elected. And win fair and square but that will be too much for BN to play fair. BN bukan JANTAN, Takut dan Kiasu!!</p>
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