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		<title>By: Jimm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why he is a Tan Sri and most of us are not .... Welcome to Malaysia ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why he is a Tan Sri and most of us are not &#8230;. Welcome to Malaysia &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mwt</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BN has always been flexing its muscles and do things to their advantage. The use of the Police to disrupt ceremahs without permit is the tip of the iceberg.  A Ã¢â‚¬Å“police sourceÃ¢â‚¬Â was also used to quash rumors that the 4 year old kid of the murdered Altantuya is not fathered by any Malaysians in response to the hammering of this point in Ijok.  This is another new twist Ã¢â‚¬â€œ the end justifying the means in trying to stop the opposition from influencing the voters. It has dawned upon the BN that this Ijok seat is fast slipping away with the passing of Sivalingam. In every election on record the BN has abused the government machineries and facilities and use them in furthering the interest of BN. 

And the latest - Abuse of Airtime over TV1 - 5.00 pm Berita Negeri News by the MIC President on Monday 23rd April 2007.  He was caught Ã¢â‚¬Å“red handedÃ¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a recorded 3 mins 5.38 s video clip of his desperate campaign attempt to introduce the candidate and announcing more goodies (a highway from Selayang to Ijok and Ijok to Assam Jawa) in a veiled political MIC initiated campaign (of course with the blessing of Zam, the Info Minister) under the guise of Ã¢â‚¬Å“lintas langsung dari IjokÃ¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬â€œ (live telecast from Ijok).  For more details and enhanced extracted video images (with elapsed time) check it out at:

http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2007/04/ijok-bn-abuse-tv1-airtime-samy-vellu.html
- an exclusive documented evidence you donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t find in any blog or the print media.
PKR should demand a similar airtime as compensation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BN has always been flexing its muscles and do things to their advantage. The use of the Police to disrupt ceremahs without permit is the tip of the iceberg.  A Ã¢â‚¬Å“police sourceÃ¢â‚¬Â was also used to quash rumors that the 4 year old kid of the murdered Altantuya is not fathered by any Malaysians in response to the hammering of this point in Ijok.  This is another new twist Ã¢â‚¬â€œ the end justifying the means in trying to stop the opposition from influencing the voters. It has dawned upon the BN that this Ijok seat is fast slipping away with the passing of Sivalingam. In every election on record the BN has abused the government machineries and facilities and use them in furthering the interest of BN. </p>
<p>And the latest &#8211; Abuse of Airtime over TV1 &#8211; 5.00 pm Berita Negeri News by the MIC President on Monday 23rd April 2007.  He was caught Ã¢â‚¬Å“red handedÃ¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a recorded 3 mins 5.38 s video clip of his desperate campaign attempt to introduce the candidate and announcing more goodies (a highway from Selayang to Ijok and Ijok to Assam Jawa) in a veiled political MIC initiated campaign (of course with the blessing of Zam, the Info Minister) under the guise of Ã¢â‚¬Å“lintas langsung dari IjokÃ¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬â€œ (live telecast from Ijok).  For more details and enhanced extracted video images (with elapsed time) check it out at:</p>
<p><a href="http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2007/04/ijok-bn-abuse-tv1-airtime-samy-vellu.html" rel="nofollow">http://powerpresent.blogspot.com/2007/04/ijok-bn-abuse-tv1-airtime-samy-vellu.html</a><br />
- an exclusive documented evidence you donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t find in any blog or the print media.<br />
PKR should demand a similar airtime as compensation</p>
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		<title>By: readme</title>
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		<dc:creator>readme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a computer geek.. I dont understand politics...

This is my &lt;a href=&quot;http://hundredone.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; explanation of the scenario in Ijok&lt;/a&gt;

Can YOU translate that to politic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a computer geek.. I dont understand politics&#8230;</p>
<p>This is my <a href="http://hundredone.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> explanation of the scenario in Ijok</a></p>
<p>Can YOU translate that to politic?</p>
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		<title>By: ihavesomethingtosay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihavesomethingtosay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FROM BERNAMA.COM.MY:

Ã¢â‚¬Å“Fighting Corruption Is A National Mission, Says DPMÃ¢â‚¬Â


Spot on Mr DPM, can we start with the Sukoi jets and the submarine deals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FROM BERNAMA.COM.MY:</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“Fighting Corruption Is A National Mission, Says DPMÃ¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Spot on Mr DPM, can we start with the Sukoi jets and the submarine deals?</p>
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		<title>By: TheWrathOfGrapes</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheWrathOfGrapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 03:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>// This time even a foolÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s words would speak truthfully for what is good for the people at large. //

Endangered Hornbill - spot on.  Even a broken-down clock will tell the correct times twice a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>// This time even a foolÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s words would speak truthfully for what is good for the people at large. //</p>
<p>Endangered Hornbill &#8211; spot on.  Even a broken-down clock will tell the correct times twice a day.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10369</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 03:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And the fact that the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ is prepared to give, under these circumstance, makes the Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ continue to expect, as well as legitimize his expectation, as a matter of course. So the vicious cycle is perpetuated.&quot; Jeffrey

Spot on!

So any effort at eradication of corruption has to be two-pronged. We should not apportion blame between the two as one cannot exist independently of the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the fact that the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ is prepared to give, under these circumstance, makes the Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ continue to expect, as well as legitimize his expectation, as a matter of course. So the vicious cycle is perpetuated.&#8221; Jeffrey</p>
<p>Spot on!</p>
<p>So any effort at eradication of corruption has to be two-pronged. We should not apportion blame between the two as one cannot exist independently of the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Lim Kit Siang &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ijok - BN transforms into &#8220;Bribery Nasional&#8221; with cornucopia of corrupt electoral practices</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10351</link>
		<dc:creator>Lim Kit Siang &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ijok - BN transforms into &#8220;Bribery Nasional&#8221; with cornucopia of corrupt electoral practices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yesterday, I asked why is the Election Commission Chairman keeping totally silent about the worst case of money politics and electoral corruption in 50 years of elections in the Ijok by-election? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday, I asked why is the Election Commission Chairman keeping totally silent about the worst case of money politics and electoral corruption in 50 years of elections in the Ijok by-election? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10349</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is in response to Undergrad2Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s comments as per posting on April 24th, 2007 at 5:01 am .

Of course, as a matter of law, both Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ and Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ are guilty of corruption: it takes two hands to clap! For without Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢, no Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ will be induced. But it is also true that if the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ does not expect the favour and uses his position to delay or obstruct what the giver wants and is lawfully entitled, why would the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ give? And the fact that the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ is prepared to give, under these circumstance, makes the Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ continue to expect, as well as legitimize his expectation, as a matter of course. So the vicious cycle is perpetuated.

 Why is it, in practice, the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ is lesser prosecuted just like the Ã¢â‚¬ËœclientÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ whose patronage is solicited by a prostitute?

Maybe it is due to the knowledge deep within, but seldom openly admitted, that although both parties are guilty for complicity in a socially disapproved and an unlawful activity, yet between the two, the public official taking the bribe - and in the other context, the prostitute soliciting Ã¢â‚¬â€œ is the Ã¢â‚¬ËœmoreÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ guilty.

What is the justification for this line of thinking? The difference lies in oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s position and station as prescribed by society.

Now we all know that activities like corruption and prostitution have a tendency to be prevalent unless otherwise checked by social and legal sanctions because their roots lie in human nature, or shall we say, the frailty thereof : as in the case of the takerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s desire to use an official position for an unfair gain over others and the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s desire to Ã¢â‚¬ËœbuyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ this public officialÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s favour in unfair advantage over the rest in the case of corruption; and in the case of prostitution, the desire of the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ to have sex without problems and costs other than quantifiable financial outlay, and the Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ for,  money.

Now in such situations in which both sides are, as a natural human tendency, inclined towards a socially and legally sanctioned activity, the onus and burden of restraint is shifted and imposed on that side whose Ã¢â‚¬ËœpositionÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ is such that the expectation is greater on him or her to exercise greater restraint to check, stop and discourage the prohibited activity.

In the case of corruption the greater burden is imposed on the Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ because of his official position being that of trust and guardianship of public welfare, funded as it were, by public/tax payers money.

In the case of prostitution, that onus and burden, perhaps of greater unfairness, is imposed on the female gender, which is supposedly the gatekeeper against unbridled sexual libidinousness and profligacy. As to why that it so, is a different story for another day, too long to expound here.

It suffices to say that if one goes further and compare the situation of the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ (public official) being held more accountable for corruption with that of the other Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ (Ã¢â‚¬ËœprostituteÃ¢â‚¬â„¢) being held more accountable for prostitution, the former deserves more punishment because of the gravity of his crime.

The public officialÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s corrupt act is graver because its perpetration undermines the very fabric and orderly functioning of government and society, as it affects public welfare!

The same however is not comparable to the oldest profession which inflicts comparatively less harm on society and has more Ã¢â‚¬ËœmitigatingÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ factors.

The religious and morally rectitude amongst us will object in voices stentorian that the harm is greater in prostitution: it weakens the moral fiber of men/women and undermines the very institution of monogamous marriage based on sexual exclusivity and fidelity between spouses.

I of course beg to disagree even at risk of being adjudged less morally upright. First of all I have no idea whatsoever the meaning of this nebulous term Ã¢â‚¬Å“moral fiberÃ¢â‚¬Â used in this context. I suppose it means restraint from what is desired based on moral principles but here we must ask what moral principles that are at stake here.

To which we are invariably dragged to evaluate the marriage institution based on principles of sexual exclusivity and loyalty between spouses, which have been dealt a blow.

Let me just say that this institution, which plays a vital and important role in contributing to many benefits to society and the orderly bringing up of children to perpetuate our species, is not entirely free of fiction: that the natural biological imperative for sex may be successfully restrained all the time and confine to oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s spouse without extension to others. That it cannot be so restrained all the time and for all people leads me to the irresistible inference that prostitution provides the safety valve by which excessive libido could be released harmlessly to protect the integrity of familial unity and maintain fiction of sexual fidelity that is necessary for the one man one wife and happily ever after one lifetime arrangement called monogamy with which prostitution is, but glove is to hand, and horse is to carriage!

The objection of Ã¢â‚¬Å“harmÃ¢â‚¬Â from point of view of sexually transmittable diseases is also less convincing if clients wear Polyplastic condoms, prostitutes being not criminalized and made to go for regular medical checkups. In these days casual sex of an initially non commercial nature bears the greater risks of passing HIV!

Let me further say that the prostituteÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s soliciting a non interested party inflicts no greater harm that mere public nuisance that must be balanced against her engagement in this trade as an expression of private entrepreneurship that is consistent with the highest ideals of a capitalistic society Ã¢â‚¬â€œ of which the clientsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ payment is but another form of redistribution of wealth.

The prostitute works hard and often hazardously to his/her physical and emotional well being for money. None of these mitigating factors avail to a public official who ought to have been reasonably remunerated from his salaries, bonuses and pensions but whose desire and greed are not satiated by comparison to his/her political masters who enrich and aggrandize themselves more by virtue of their more powerful position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in response to Undergrad2Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s comments as per posting on April 24th, 2007 at 5:01 am .</p>
<p>Of course, as a matter of law, both Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ and Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ are guilty of corruption: it takes two hands to clap! For without Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢, no Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ will be induced. But it is also true that if the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ does not expect the favour and uses his position to delay or obstruct what the giver wants and is lawfully entitled, why would the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ give? And the fact that the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ is prepared to give, under these circumstance, makes the Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ continue to expect, as well as legitimize his expectation, as a matter of course. So the vicious cycle is perpetuated.</p>
<p> Why is it, in practice, the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ is lesser prosecuted just like the Ã¢â‚¬ËœclientÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ whose patronage is solicited by a prostitute?</p>
<p>Maybe it is due to the knowledge deep within, but seldom openly admitted, that although both parties are guilty for complicity in a socially disapproved and an unlawful activity, yet between the two, the public official taking the bribe &#8211; and in the other context, the prostitute soliciting Ã¢â‚¬â€œ is the Ã¢â‚¬ËœmoreÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ guilty.</p>
<p>What is the justification for this line of thinking? The difference lies in oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s position and station as prescribed by society.</p>
<p>Now we all know that activities like corruption and prostitution have a tendency to be prevalent unless otherwise checked by social and legal sanctions because their roots lie in human nature, or shall we say, the frailty thereof : as in the case of the takerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s desire to use an official position for an unfair gain over others and the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s desire to Ã¢â‚¬ËœbuyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ this public officialÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s favour in unfair advantage over the rest in the case of corruption; and in the case of prostitution, the desire of the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ to have sex without problems and costs other than quantifiable financial outlay, and the Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ for,  money.</p>
<p>Now in such situations in which both sides are, as a natural human tendency, inclined towards a socially and legally sanctioned activity, the onus and burden of restraint is shifted and imposed on that side whose Ã¢â‚¬ËœpositionÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ is such that the expectation is greater on him or her to exercise greater restraint to check, stop and discourage the prohibited activity.</p>
<p>In the case of corruption the greater burden is imposed on the Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ because of his official position being that of trust and guardianship of public welfare, funded as it were, by public/tax payers money.</p>
<p>In the case of prostitution, that onus and burden, perhaps of greater unfairness, is imposed on the female gender, which is supposedly the gatekeeper against unbridled sexual libidinousness and profligacy. As to why that it so, is a different story for another day, too long to expound here.</p>
<p>It suffices to say that if one goes further and compare the situation of the Ã¢â‚¬ËœgiverÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ (public official) being held more accountable for corruption with that of the other Ã¢â‚¬ËœtakerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ (Ã¢â‚¬ËœprostituteÃ¢â‚¬â„¢) being held more accountable for prostitution, the former deserves more punishment because of the gravity of his crime.</p>
<p>The public officialÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s corrupt act is graver because its perpetration undermines the very fabric and orderly functioning of government and society, as it affects public welfare!</p>
<p>The same however is not comparable to the oldest profession which inflicts comparatively less harm on society and has more Ã¢â‚¬ËœmitigatingÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ factors.</p>
<p>The religious and morally rectitude amongst us will object in voices stentorian that the harm is greater in prostitution: it weakens the moral fiber of men/women and undermines the very institution of monogamous marriage based on sexual exclusivity and fidelity between spouses.</p>
<p>I of course beg to disagree even at risk of being adjudged less morally upright. First of all I have no idea whatsoever the meaning of this nebulous term Ã¢â‚¬Å“moral fiberÃ¢â‚¬Â used in this context. I suppose it means restraint from what is desired based on moral principles but here we must ask what moral principles that are at stake here.</p>
<p>To which we are invariably dragged to evaluate the marriage institution based on principles of sexual exclusivity and loyalty between spouses, which have been dealt a blow.</p>
<p>Let me just say that this institution, which plays a vital and important role in contributing to many benefits to society and the orderly bringing up of children to perpetuate our species, is not entirely free of fiction: that the natural biological imperative for sex may be successfully restrained all the time and confine to oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s spouse without extension to others. That it cannot be so restrained all the time and for all people leads me to the irresistible inference that prostitution provides the safety valve by which excessive libido could be released harmlessly to protect the integrity of familial unity and maintain fiction of sexual fidelity that is necessary for the one man one wife and happily ever after one lifetime arrangement called monogamy with which prostitution is, but glove is to hand, and horse is to carriage!</p>
<p>The objection of Ã¢â‚¬Å“harmÃ¢â‚¬Â from point of view of sexually transmittable diseases is also less convincing if clients wear Polyplastic condoms, prostitutes being not criminalized and made to go for regular medical checkups. In these days casual sex of an initially non commercial nature bears the greater risks of passing HIV!</p>
<p>Let me further say that the prostituteÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s soliciting a non interested party inflicts no greater harm that mere public nuisance that must be balanced against her engagement in this trade as an expression of private entrepreneurship that is consistent with the highest ideals of a capitalistic society Ã¢â‚¬â€œ of which the clientsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ payment is but another form of redistribution of wealth.</p>
<p>The prostitute works hard and often hazardously to his/her physical and emotional well being for money. None of these mitigating factors avail to a public official who ought to have been reasonably remunerated from his salaries, bonuses and pensions but whose desire and greed are not satiated by comparison to his/her political masters who enrich and aggrandize themselves more by virtue of their more powerful position.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;LetÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s just make it a mere teh tarik somewhere in Bangsar because I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t want you to lose big -- just a token bet.&quot;


Yes, I think Raja Petra will have more than a bucketful of teh tarik when he goes to Bangsar.

This is the kind of abuse that has to stop - it is voter fraud pure and simple. But I think they already have a way of dealing with it. Government employees count the votes under the eyes of observers. But what are they &#039;observing&#039;??

It is not unknown that BN supporters among them resorted to spoiling votes cast by having  lead  concealed under their fingernails as they counted the votes! When there are two &#039;X&#039;s crossed anywhere on the ballot paper or what appears to be an attempt to vote, the vote is deemed &#039;spoilt&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;LetÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s just make it a mere teh tarik somewhere in Bangsar because I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t want you to lose big &#8212; just a token bet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I think Raja Petra will have more than a bucketful of teh tarik when he goes to Bangsar.</p>
<p>This is the kind of abuse that has to stop &#8211; it is voter fraud pure and simple. But I think they already have a way of dealing with it. Government employees count the votes under the eyes of observers. But what are they &#8216;observing&#8217;??</p>
<p>It is not unknown that BN supporters among them resorted to spoiling votes cast by having  lead  concealed under their fingernails as they counted the votes! When there are two &#8216;X&#8217;s crossed anywhere on the ballot paper or what appears to be an attempt to vote, the vote is deemed &#8216;spoilt&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: k1980</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10342</link>
		<dc:creator>k1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See  http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/reports.php?itemid=4107

&lt;b&gt;8 year old registered voters in Ijok! Next, babies in prams are entitled to cast their votes in Malaysia, the most democratic of democracies&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See  <a href="http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/reports.php?itemid=4107" rel="nofollow">http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/reports.php?itemid=4107</a></p>
<p><b>8 year old registered voters in Ijok! Next, babies in prams are entitled to cast their votes in Malaysia, the most democratic of democracies</b></p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10337</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.

pwcheng,

When political power and economic power are divided along racial lines, when such artificial dichotomy exists, when one race   holds the political power and another the economic power,the tendency is to associate race with the crime.

Be that as it may, no one race could be said to be predisposed to corruption or bribery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.</p>
<p>pwcheng,</p>
<p>When political power and economic power are divided along racial lines, when such artificial dichotomy exists, when one race   holds the political power and another the economic power,the tendency is to associate race with the crime.</p>
<p>Be that as it may, no one race could be said to be predisposed to corruption or bribery.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10335</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corruption is a by-product of &quot;modernization&quot; and &#039;westernization&#039; to a certain extent. In agricultural communities, corruption would be minimal. 

There would be corruption as long as there are people offering bribes. I do not care to speculate as to which is the worse, the &#039;giver&#039; of bribes or the &#039;taker&#039;.


This is one instance when the  NEP which seeks to reduce the identification of race with economic functions merely act to replace one group with another. But it does nothing to the prevalence of the crime. But that is another matter for another day.

Back to bribes and corruption. The &#039;giver&#039; of bribes is as guilty of the crime of corruption as the &#039;taker&#039;. Yet in Malaysia we do not see the &#039;giver&#039; prosecuted. Why?

In certain fields, we see yet another situation where the &#039;giver&#039; is prosecuted -  but the &#039;taker&#039; goes scot free. The &#039;giver&#039; being the party who solicits (the crime) is prosecuted e.g. in the oldest profession in the world, prostitution. This is due to the nature of the crime. Here soliciting is the crime - not prostitution which in some countries is legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corruption is a by-product of &#8220;modernization&#8221; and &#8216;westernization&#8217; to a certain extent. In agricultural communities, corruption would be minimal. </p>
<p>There would be corruption as long as there are people offering bribes. I do not care to speculate as to which is the worse, the &#8216;giver&#8217; of bribes or the &#8216;taker&#8217;.</p>
<p>This is one instance when the  NEP which seeks to reduce the identification of race with economic functions merely act to replace one group with another. But it does nothing to the prevalence of the crime. But that is another matter for another day.</p>
<p>Back to bribes and corruption. The &#8216;giver&#8217; of bribes is as guilty of the crime of corruption as the &#8216;taker&#8217;. Yet in Malaysia we do not see the &#8216;giver&#8217; prosecuted. Why?</p>
<p>In certain fields, we see yet another situation where the &#8216;giver&#8217; is prosecuted &#8211;  but the &#8216;taker&#8217; goes scot free. The &#8216;giver&#8217; being the party who solicits (the crime) is prosecuted e.g. in the oldest profession in the world, prostitution. This is due to the nature of the crime. Here soliciting is the crime &#8211; not prostitution which in some countries is legal.</p>
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		<title>By: pwcheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10332</link>
		<dc:creator>pwcheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corruption is second nature to them and as a result moral and ethical values are meaningless to them. They are already like blind men who cannot differentiate between brightness and darkness.

    That is why no action on all the corrupted cases in so long you are connected to UMNO. To them the word &quot;corruption&quot; do not exist in their dictionary as is it a normal everyday affair for them, the only difference is whether you are a general practitioner like the mata mata or some lower ranking government servants who wait for some unfortunate victims or a specialist who by the stroke of a pen can earn them millions.

    The ACA is only a monument erected for display, probably can help to attract a tourist or two during the visit Malaysia year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corruption is second nature to them and as a result moral and ethical values are meaningless to them. They are already like blind men who cannot differentiate between brightness and darkness.</p>
<p>    That is why no action on all the corrupted cases in so long you are connected to UMNO. To them the word &#8220;corruption&#8221; do not exist in their dictionary as is it a normal everyday affair for them, the only difference is whether you are a general practitioner like the mata mata or some lower ranking government servants who wait for some unfortunate victims or a specialist who by the stroke of a pen can earn them millions.</p>
<p>    The ACA is only a monument erected for display, probably can help to attract a tourist or two during the visit Malaysia year.</p>
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		<title>By: sonicwall</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10328</link>
		<dc:creator>sonicwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uncle kit

Can you seriously take a look at the Election Commission (SPR) votersÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ registration at 

http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/reports.php?itemid=4107

Please validate their IC number with SPR!

Your urgency is needed. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uncle kit</p>
<p>Can you seriously take a look at the Election Commission (SPR) votersÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ registration at </p>
<p><a href="http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/reports.php?itemid=4107" rel="nofollow">http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/reports.php?itemid=4107</a></p>
<p>Please validate their IC number with SPR!</p>
<p>Your urgency is needed. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: kurakura</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10319</link>
		<dc:creator>kurakura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it appears that Najib is slowly getting out of the Mongolian lady&#039;s mess......

Well I am just speculating but in Malaysia&#039;s case things like this is not unusual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it appears that Najib is slowly getting out of the Mongolian lady&#8217;s mess&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Well I am just speculating but in Malaysia&#8217;s case things like this is not unusual.</p>
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		<title>By: ihavesomethingtosay</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10301</link>
		<dc:creator>ihavesomethingtosay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi JohnTheMenace, I have been praying hard for their death since Batu Talam, lots of goodies, lots of show, wish they die soon. oh, btw, my state assemblyman and MP happens to be MCA. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi JohnTheMenace, I have been praying hard for their death since Batu Talam, lots of goodies, lots of show, wish they die soon. oh, btw, my state assemblyman and MP happens to be MCA. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10295</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I see the likelihood of Divine intervention in Malaysia.

Alternatively, we need the likes of Korean student Cho (recently deceased)  to end the corruption and the debauchery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I see the likelihood of Divine intervention in Malaysia.</p>
<p>Alternatively, we need the likes of Korean student Cho (recently deceased)  to end the corruption and the debauchery.</p>
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		<title>By: raven77</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10293</link>
		<dc:creator>raven77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God created two by-elections in a row so that Najib can be exposed. God loves Malaysia, do the people love it too ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God created two by-elections in a row so that Najib can be exposed. God loves Malaysia, do the people love it too ?</p>
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		<title>By: ENDANGERED HORNBILL</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10286</link>
		<dc:creator>ENDANGERED HORNBILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>undergrad2 Says: 

April 23rd, 2007 at 6:57 pm 

&quot;I have consulted the astronomers, and for a few dollars, they tell me the stars are now aligned to bring about Ã¢â‚¬ËœchangeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ on earth. In the United States, a woman is set to be the President and in Malaysia, a one-term Prime Minister is likely to Ã¢â‚¬Ëœbe blown to bitsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢.&quot;

All that has been written in the stars are only the handwriting of the MAKER&#039;s HANDS. This is the best prospect ever in 50 years. Then begins the death knell for dismantling what must be one of the real scourges of Modern Times, a regime deeply rooted in decades of decadence.

That will also bring down what many believe to be one of the most audaciously corrupt Chief Ministers (MB) of the most modern state of the country.

That will also bring down what many believe to be the MOST audaciously CORRUPT regimes in Malaysia under its most Islamic PM. What a paradox! Again the inscrutability of divinity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>undergrad2 Says: </p>
<p>April 23rd, 2007 at 6:57 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;I have consulted the astronomers, and for a few dollars, they tell me the stars are now aligned to bring about Ã¢â‚¬ËœchangeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ on earth. In the United States, a woman is set to be the President and in Malaysia, a one-term Prime Minister is likely to Ã¢â‚¬Ëœbe blown to bitsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢.&#8221;</p>
<p>All that has been written in the stars are only the handwriting of the MAKER&#8217;s HANDS. This is the best prospect ever in 50 years. Then begins the death knell for dismantling what must be one of the real scourges of Modern Times, a regime deeply rooted in decades of decadence.</p>
<p>That will also bring down what many believe to be one of the most audaciously corrupt Chief Ministers (MB) of the most modern state of the country.</p>
<p>That will also bring down what many believe to be the MOST audaciously CORRUPT regimes in Malaysia under its most Islamic PM. What a paradox! Again the inscrutability of divinity.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/23/ijok-money-politics-and-electoral-corruption-worst-in-50-years-of-by-elections/comment-page-1/#comment-10283</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is this quiet unspoken conspiracy between the EC and UMNO that boundaries are drawn and re-drawn in such as way as to take away the &#039;sting&#039; out of non-Malays votes, in such a way a majority non-Malay area becomes a Malay dominated constituency through the drawing and re-drawing of boundaries.

Will we get to see an Opposition run government one day? Perhaps, but it&#039;d be more of an aberration rather than the norm. Chances would never be as good as they are today - for an aberration.

We can make it happen today. But if we cannot, then it will never happen. 

I have consulted the astronomers, and for a few dollars, they tell me the stars are now aligned to bring about &#039;change&#039; on earth. In the United States, a woman is set to be the President and in Malaysia, a one-term Prime Minister is likely to &#039;be blown to bits&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is this quiet unspoken conspiracy between the EC and UMNO that boundaries are drawn and re-drawn in such as way as to take away the &#8216;sting&#8217; out of non-Malays votes, in such a way a majority non-Malay area becomes a Malay dominated constituency through the drawing and re-drawing of boundaries.</p>
<p>Will we get to see an Opposition run government one day? Perhaps, but it&#8217;d be more of an aberration rather than the norm. Chances would never be as good as they are today &#8211; for an aberration.</p>
<p>We can make it happen today. But if we cannot, then it will never happen. </p>
<p>I have consulted the astronomers, and for a few dollars, they tell me the stars are now aligned to bring about &#8216;change&#8217; on earth. In the United States, a woman is set to be the President and in Malaysia, a one-term Prime Minister is likely to &#8216;be blown to bits&#8217;.</p>
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