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		<title>By: karlmarx8</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-60277</link>
		<dc:creator>karlmarx8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malaysian government had interfered with Southern Thai and Mindanao. At one time the "fascist dictator" also called for a separate state for the southern state that their own tribe were claiming it for century. Did the Thai said anything?

Is that not interference? Or by invitation? Now, that CM of Sri Lanka only request to look into the complaint is being asked to lay off.......what're they displaying is a mirror of themselves....STUPID ! STUPID ! STUPID ! You heard the remark before?

There is not a single Malaysians without complaint/feeling being discriminated over the years with the exception of the ruling class. So, something must be very very wrong indeed. 

But, the ruling class still behave that the mass is still sleeping under the zinc roof and wanted only a clean longgang and new paved roads once every 4-5 years. So, you can see the roughshod they throw around with shout of threats, acting mean and vicious and "wild" language both in words and body. Somehow, I wonder how all these years they can get through the august house. Did they turned that into a denned retreat? We have all seen it all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysian government had interfered with Southern Thai and Mindanao. At one time the &#8220;fascist dictator&#8221; also called for a separate state for the southern state that their own tribe were claiming it for century. Did the Thai said anything?</p>
<p>Is that not interference? Or by invitation? Now, that CM of Sri Lanka only request to look into the complaint is being asked to lay off&#8230;&#8230;.what&#8217;re they displaying is a mirror of themselves&#8230;.STUPID ! STUPID ! STUPID ! You heard the remark before?</p>
<p>There is not a single Malaysians without complaint/feeling being discriminated over the years with the exception of the ruling class. So, something must be very very wrong indeed. </p>
<p>But, the ruling class still behave that the mass is still sleeping under the zinc roof and wanted only a clean longgang and new paved roads once every 4-5 years. So, you can see the roughshod they throw around with shout of threats, acting mean and vicious and &#8220;wild&#8221; language both in words and body. Somehow, I wonder how all these years they can get through the august house. Did they turned that into a denned retreat? We have all seen it all!</p>
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		<title>By: Godamn Singh</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-10223</link>
		<dc:creator>Godamn Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Arrayed opposite is AnwarÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s PKRÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heavyweight Khalid Ibrahim, one time GuthrieÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s CEO and brains behind the NEP ..."


NEP - hardly the brainchild of Khalid Ibrahim. He was running around  half naked (could not afford clothes) when the architects of the NEP were busy at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Arrayed opposite is AnwarÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s PKRÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heavyweight Khalid Ibrahim, one time GuthrieÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s CEO and brains behind the NEP &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>NEP - hardly the brainchild of Khalid Ibrahim. He was running around  half naked (could not afford clothes) when the architects of the NEP were busy at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-10130</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The crux of the matter is for the opposition parties, especially the DAP to change the mentality of the less educated voters.
Such activities should preferably be concentrated in the rural areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crux of the matter is for the opposition parties, especially the DAP to change the mentality of the less educated voters.<br />
Such activities should preferably be concentrated in the rural areas.</p>
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		<title>By: tsn</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-10123</link>
		<dc:creator>tsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dawsheng: The sad story is before UMNO dies a natural death, we non will indeed die a unnatural death before them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dawsheng: The sad story is before UMNO dies a natural death, we non will indeed die a unnatural death before them.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-10121</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"My disappoinment with BN govt is the progress and development of the country is being held ransom by NEP and the culture of corruptions that curse Malaysians for fifty years."

It is time whichever political party or coalition of parties that run the government re-assess many of the policies in place for the last five decades. Some of these policies retard rather than encourage economic growth and have lost some of their relevance. After it has been almost half a century. In economic terms that is a very long time.

She can learn from Singapore of course, but Singapore is in a different situation. Her economic growth lies in her value added and technology and capital intensive export  industries. Her domestic market is too small to be relied upon to cater for the needs of industries which depend on economies of scale for their economic viability. Singapore is a city state,  negative population growth sooner or later will set in to accommodate her need for land.

I feel economic union between Singapore and Malaysia in  some form sooner or later is inevitable. When it happens it will be a marriage of sorts between two parties when divorce is not an option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My disappoinment with BN govt is the progress and development of the country is being held ransom by NEP and the culture of corruptions that curse Malaysians for fifty years.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is time whichever political party or coalition of parties that run the government re-assess many of the policies in place for the last five decades. Some of these policies retard rather than encourage economic growth and have lost some of their relevance. After it has been almost half a century. In economic terms that is a very long time.</p>
<p>She can learn from Singapore of course, but Singapore is in a different situation. Her economic growth lies in her value added and technology and capital intensive export  industries. Her domestic market is too small to be relied upon to cater for the needs of industries which depend on economies of scale for their economic viability. Singapore is a city state,  negative population growth sooner or later will set in to accommodate her need for land.</p>
<p>I feel economic union between Singapore and Malaysia in  some form sooner or later is inevitable. When it happens it will be a marriage of sorts between two parties when divorce is not an option.</p>
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		<title>By: Tai Lo Chin</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-10120</link>
		<dc:creator>Tai Lo Chin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ijok by-election  is more important than MachapÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s.  

51.8 percent of Ijok voters are Malays. How will they vote? BN &#38; NEP or race without NEP? BN/MICÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s K Parthiban will be backed by BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s well oiled machinery. Arrayed opposite is AnwarÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s PKRÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heavyweight Khalid Ibrahim, one time GuthrieÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s CEO and brains behind the NEP who now is expected to speak against NEP and corruption. It pitches  AnwarÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬Å“new platformÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ for Malays against UMNOÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s.  Anwar is expected to also raise controversial murder of Mongolian woman Altantuya Shariibuu. Umno deputy president and Deputy Premier Najib Abdul RazakÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s would be forced to rebut.

Ijok by-election  will show whether its 51.8 percent voters will heed issues of corruption and abuse of power and NEP, raised in this blog and other blogs, more importantly by a prominent and successful Malay (Khalid Ibrahim) before them. Or they together with other non malay voters would still prefer BN and their development pledges, money politics etc.

Ijok determines whether mindset of Malaysian voters can now be changed. Or we all have to wait for another 300 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ijok by-election  is more important than MachapÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s.  </p>
<p>51.8 percent of Ijok voters are Malays. How will they vote? BN &amp; NEP or race without NEP? BN/MICÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s K Parthiban will be backed by BNÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s well oiled machinery. Arrayed opposite is AnwarÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s PKRÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heavyweight Khalid Ibrahim, one time GuthrieÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s CEO and brains behind the NEP who now is expected to speak against NEP and corruption. It pitches  AnwarÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬Å“new platformÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ for Malays against UMNOÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s.  Anwar is expected to also raise controversial murder of Mongolian woman Altantuya Shariibuu. Umno deputy president and Deputy Premier Najib Abdul RazakÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s would be forced to rebut.</p>
<p>Ijok by-election  will show whether its 51.8 percent voters will heed issues of corruption and abuse of power and NEP, raised in this blog and other blogs, more importantly by a prominent and successful Malay (Khalid Ibrahim) before them. Or they together with other non malay voters would still prefer BN and their development pledges, money politics etc.</p>
<p>Ijok determines whether mindset of Malaysian voters can now be changed. Or we all have to wait for another 300 years.</p>
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		<title>By: dawsheng</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-10114</link>
		<dc:creator>dawsheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My disappoinment with BN govt is the progress and development of the country is being held ransom by NEP and the culture of corruptions that curse Malaysians for fifty years. We tolerate and accepted it, we have no choice so we set a precendent, our forefathers did and we did progress on the basis of NEP and corruptions, the country did well for a moment but where are we now? 

I've lived in Singapore for fifteen years and I know how is progress like and I don't see it where I lived now in Malaysia. I do wonder why? But I find it so nonsense that a person can be so stupid as to limit trades in order to protect his. The whole ideology of UMNO is irrelevant in the 21st century, UMNO will indeed die a natural death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My disappoinment with BN govt is the progress and development of the country is being held ransom by NEP and the culture of corruptions that curse Malaysians for fifty years. We tolerate and accepted it, we have no choice so we set a precendent, our forefathers did and we did progress on the basis of NEP and corruptions, the country did well for a moment but where are we now? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lived in Singapore for fifteen years and I know how is progress like and I don&#8217;t see it where I lived now in Malaysia. I do wonder why? But I find it so nonsense that a person can be so stupid as to limit trades in order to protect his. The whole ideology of UMNO is irrelevant in the 21st century, UMNO will indeed die a natural death.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-10106</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loyalty instead of party</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loyalty instead of party</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/04/21/the-machiavellis-in-malaysian-politics/#comment-10105</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"For a paltry sum of aid they are willing to vote BN.Just go on to read what mkini has to say today! Machap voters thank DAP for standing in Machap. Otherwise they would not get so much aid from BN. To me they could have returned their gratitude to DAP by voting in the DAP candidate." so says Grace

The issues were not over ideology but were bread and butter issues. Voters did the right thing i.e. using the DAP to air their grievances and vote for the ruling party based on its electoral promises to deliver.

This is one strategy that never fails. Political party?? Who cares. You cannot eat on political loyalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For a paltry sum of aid they are willing to vote BN.Just go on to read what mkini has to say today! Machap voters thank DAP for standing in Machap. Otherwise they would not get so much aid from BN. To me they could have returned their gratitude to DAP by voting in the DAP candidate.&#8221; so says Grace</p>
<p>The issues were not over ideology but were bread and butter issues. Voters did the right thing i.e. using the DAP to air their grievances and vote for the ruling party based on its electoral promises to deliver.</p>
<p>This is one strategy that never fails. Political party?? Who cares. You cannot eat on political loyalty.</p>
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