
DAP National Chairman Karpal Singh will file habeas corpus application for rubber-tapper Marimuthu a/l Periasamy to be reunited with his wife, Raimah Bibi a/p Noordin and six children (Yogneswary 12, Paramila 11, Hariharen 8, Shamala 5, Ravindran 5 and Kuberan, 4) who had been forcibly separated from him for two weeks by Jabatan Agama Islam Selangor (JAIS).
On 2nd April, 2007, seven officers from JAIS came to his house in Kampung Baru Tambahan Ulu Yam Lama, Selangor and told him that his wife of 21 years was a Muslim and that she and the six children must be placed in a rehabilitation centre.
Marimuthu, 44, had no choice but to let the officers take his family away.
He said an “ustaz” told him to convert to Islam or threatened to charge him for khalwat with Raimah.
Raimah, who returned to help him with the rubber tapping work two days later, told him that Jais had placed the family in the nearby Kampung Melayu Liga Emas, a Muslim Malay populated area, so that the neighbours can keep an eye on her daily activities and prevent her from meeting with any outsiders, particularly her Hindu husband.
Marimuthu said he felt threatened by the villagers’ stares when he attempted to visit his wife and children, and his wife was afraid and refused to come out and talk to him. Marimutu had no choice but to leave that village..
Raimah Bibi is an Indian who is a practicing Hindu. She was once adopted by a Indian-Muslim family when she was small. Her IC had never indicated that she was a Muslim until when she applied for her MyKad when her name was changed to Rahimah Bibi bt Noordin and identified as a Muslim. Both Marimuthu and Raimah did not apply for correction with the National Registration Department (NRD). Birth certificates of all Marimuthu’s children also indicate that Raimah is an Hindu Indian.
Marimuthu said that both of them were practising Hindus and they had got married in a temple according to Hindu rites and all their children were brought up as Hindus.
He said Raimah, who was adopted by an Indian Muslim family, cannot remember her adopted mother and her late adopted father had approved of their relationship.
It is most shocking that there is a lengthening list of cases of families being broken up by religious authorities like the case of Marimuthu being forcibly separated from his wife and six children in utter disregard of the sensitivities and rights of the multi-religious citizenry in the country.
When laws and religions are used to break up families, it is giving a bad name to laws and religions.
Noted constitutional lawyer and human rights defender, Malik Imtiaz have rightly commented on the Marimuthu family tragedy in his blog, Disquiet:
The law requires that the welfare of the children be the paramount consideration. The law also requires that all of us be treated equally. And yet, it would seem that those amongst us charged with the welfare of the nation and its citizens appear to think otherwise.
What justifies tearing a family apart, separating children from their parents? Islam does not. The law does not. How can we even begin to understand the anguish of the father, the mother and the children? How can we even begin to understand that some believe that the law countenances, warrants, such cruelty?
Someone has to be made accountable for this.

#1 by pamelaoda on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 12:57 pm
Are these people really so deperado? I think this is forcing, right? And why recently so many such cases rises? Have wisdom like what buddha said..if we are fated to meet, you shall come to me not the other way round..
All the best to DAP and this issue could be settled ASAP..and where is MIC by the way? Unbelievable
#2 by k1980 on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 12:58 pm
The Talibanization of malaysia has worsened. Raimah Bibi is an Indian who is a practising Hindu. She was once adopted by a Indian-Muslim family when she was small. So was 5 year-old Maria Hertogh, a Catholic who was placed under the care of a malay muslim woman during the Jap occupation and was converted to islam by her caretaker.
#3 by lakshy on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:01 pm
If she is an Indian and a practising Hindu and has not been converted to Islam, then what is JAIS’s locus standii?
If she is an Indian and has converted to Islam, there is nothing stopping her from renouncing Islam if she so chooses since Islam will not permit her to cohabitate with a non-muslim. She can go through the legal procedure of renouncing Islam and eventually reunite the whole family. As I understand it, it’s only a Malay that is prohibited from renouncing Islam.
If however she is not a muslim, and has never converted to Islam, then as Malik Imtiaz has written, someone must be made to pay the price for disrupting a family, the anguish of separation, and having to face societal scorn etc. Perhaps YB Karpal can take up the case gratis to highlight the high handed manner in which this case was handled and make it more difficult for a repeat. Someone needs to check the excesses of the religious departments.
#4 by lakshy on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:04 pm
Yes someone needs to check the talibanization of Malaysia. Go back to the basics and practise what the Quran teaches. Not what the Islamic depts professes. We have too many unemployed/unemployable ulamaks who have nothing better to do.
#5 by Loh on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:06 pm
Jabatan Agama Islam Selangor (JAIS) is a government department, and in Bolehland it is the extension of UMNO. JAIS forcible seperates families, and that is following UMNO brand of Islam. May be PAS brand of Islam would be better
#6 by Taiko on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:15 pm
How can they let religious zealots to ‘run’ the country?!
#7 by Winston on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:18 pm
I remembered that some time ago when the idea of having religion included in our identity cards was first mooted, there was so much resistance that it was dropped.
However, the government has stealthily implemented this when we changed to Mykad.
They went ahead without regard to the feelings of the people. Like it or not, it was rammed down their throats!
Why is this government so blatantly anti people? What is the purpose of having one’s religion stated in an identity card?
To many people, if not most people, religion is just part of their being, not the be all or end all of everything! It is a guide to keep one on the straight and narrow. That’s it.
The government is creating problems where none exists!
That this government can last for fifty years, especially when the last twenty-five of it was a downward free fall was beyond imagination.
Perhaps we qualify for the title, “The eighth wonder of the world!”.
#8 by democrate on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:22 pm
JAIS action is nothing diffrent from the Talibans, so uncivilsed in their teaching! Damed it !
#9 by lakshy on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:30 pm
Actually maybe someone should charge some politician for corruption under syariah law. And have his hands chopped off in application of such laws!
#10 by Taiko on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:35 pm
Winston, I don’t quite understand what you mean by “stealthily implemented this when we changed to Mykad”. My MyKad does not state my religion.
If I’m not wrong, they don’t have much options to correctly state a person’s faith. I am Taoist and Confucian. How’s my case? Sometimes I’m Buddhist. How about those who keep changing religions?
#11 by mendela on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:49 pm
Taiko,
Info on race and religion are stored in the chip of Mykad but not printed. One can easily read such info if you have a reader like the Astro Decoder.
#12 by mendela on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 1:56 pm
//We have too many unemployed/unemployable ulamaks who have nothing better to do.// Lakshy, well said!
Let send all these Talibans to Guantala Bay!
#13 by Taiko on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 2:16 pm
Never really bothered about how they are going to identify me on MyKad. I’ll take note of that. Thanks for the decoder hint.
#14 by Careena6 on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 2:32 pm
and where is MIC by the way? Unbelievable pamelaoda says
MIC dealing with this forget about it…Semi Vellu has so many things on his mind like how to yell in parliament and what to say when the word toll is being mentioned… same shit again.. bodohland is still fighting about the same silly matter… basic Human Rights.. she has all the right to be watever she wants… these JAIS dudes and UMNO chaps have no other better work,there is poverty,global warming,over- population,epidemic, going around, do something about that la… always fighthing about the same issue, separating loved ones and enjoy watching the whole scenario… sadist morons!!!!! Over the years the number of bodohs in bodohland seems to be increasing… Hidup BodohMOronland!!!
#15 by megaman on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 2:34 pm
well done Msia .. well done Msia …
wat kind of message are u trying to send to your own ppl n the world in general ?
funny thing is … y are the villagers siding wif the religious officers by being hostile to poor Marimuthu ? Wat wrong has he done to deserve this ?
Gov being corrupted n weak ? can vote them out …
JAIS being overzealous ? can bring them to court …
but the villagers doing illegal confinement ? omg … really dunnoe wat to say or do …
#16 by azk on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 2:56 pm
Get this story out to the international media. Spread it around. Let everybody know how screwed up these people are.
I can’t help but laugh at these stupid people destroying themselves.
#17 by Godfather on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 3:49 pm
Another case for the resolution of the civil courts which will, no doubt, have no balls to make any judgement, but kick the ball into someone else’s court. The concept of forcing someone to practise a certain faith is alien to many, but not to most Muslims.
#18 by Rocky on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 4:13 pm
well we need to find something to do for all these islamic graduates that is being churned out.
BTW Ustaz…you can’t catch a non muslim for khalwat when he or she is with a muslim person.or is this a new rule?
#19 by lakshy on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 4:30 pm
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Rocky, my sentiments too, but I dont know if they have changed those rules too! We wont know until they bring someone non-muslim to court over the matter.
By the way, when JAIS guys go and make raids to entertainment sites, why is it that they only round up the muslim GIRLS? Why not the muslim GUYS too?
I was in an entertainment outlet in JB with some friends when the JAIJ made a raid. They treated all of us very badly. There were Rela men present with them. All were guilty until proven innocent. Herded all of us into the hall and then took away all our IC’s. I had a muslim friend with me, but he was not taken by JAIJ. Only all the women were taken away.
Wonder what all the potential investors will think of these talibans.
Better invest in Singapore or even China or India. Why come to IDR?
#20 by Libra2 on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 4:59 pm
Ha! the courts again! Kangaroo Courts!
Our court is no more the defender of non Muslim rights. It will most probably ask the husband to seek remedy in a Syariah Court.
The rigmarole continues.
If the judge think he is Muslim first and second the defender of his contitutional oath, then we are in big trouble.
#21 by pongsakling on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 5:09 pm
//We have too many unemployed/unemployable ulamaks who have nothing better to do.// Lakshy, well said!
Let send all these Talibans to Guantala Bay!
Let send all these Talibans to Solomon Island and let the big wave swallow them!
#22 by pwcheng on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 5:20 pm
To put it in simple terms, this is all about power, not so much about religion. No good religion in the world will allow the disruption of a family where such action itself is a sin.
To most of us even taking away the birdie from the nest, is already so painful to see the mother bird screaming, what more when it is happen to a fellow human being. When there is too much power society becomes sick.
#23 by mendela on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 5:48 pm
There is no other better solutions than to put all these Talibans into Gauntamula jail!
Yes, these people are sick, real sick!
#24 by sani on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 5:52 pm
Saudara
The Constitution of The Federation is SUPREME!. Freedom of religion is a privilege guaranteed to all citizens of the Federation. Everyone knows that, muslim or not.
By the way, for our Muslim friends, thier religion is stated on the Mycard.
#25 by bystander on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 6:24 pm
Well said Mendela. Bush did the right thing sending these talibans to Guantanamo bay.
#26 by private_undergrad on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 6:37 pm
Ignorance breeds insecurities and helplessness. The problem from what Uncle Lim has blogged here is that Marimuthu, as a rubber tapper with little or no formal education (assuming of course) and without any knowledge of he and his family civil rights, can only watch JAIS carrying out its ‘duties’ haughtily with utter confusion and perplexed feeling. Have you seen this kind of problem of forced separation crops up in urban areas where most dwellers are educated? Even if it does happen, the victims will surely and readily make a big fuss in the press and mass media as a recourse.
Kudos once again to DAP for bringing up this issue and lending its assistance to the victims.
#27 by accountability on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 6:38 pm
the reason we have so many “religious enforcements” in our country is because they are just too lazy, cowardly and incompetent to do other jobs!
#28 by ethnicmalaysian on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 6:57 pm
Just had a read of Malik Imtiaz Sarwar’s blog. What a truly wonderful, enlightening and uplifting experience, to know that a Muslim can stand up so steadfastly for justice, compassion and freedom. It is Muslims like Malik, Zarinah Anwar, Haris Ibrahim, Farish Noor etc that are beacons of hope in a sea of oppression, abuse of power, greed for power, injustice and bigotry.
They may be the small minority (or large who really knows?), but deserve every iota of support and encouragement to continue the good fight.
#29 by osaya on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 7:44 pm
this is outrageous [deleted]. if this keeps up, malaysia is going to be the home of the Islamo Neo-Nazis.
#30 by bbtan on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 8:05 pm
This is the practice of fundamental Islam. Dont believe? Ask TDM or Aisehman.
#31 by tsn on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 8:08 pm
Fully agree with PWcheng, this is all about “power” game, just to show to Non-Muslims, Muslims are in control, above you.
When Deng Xia Peng came out with the idea; “ONE COUNTRY TWO SYSTEMS” for Hong Kong after 1997, Margaret Thatcher praised it as briliant idea, but this system makes Bodohland an idiot to no hope.
#32 by hasilox on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 8:32 pm
Don’t these clowns know that they are hurting islam more than anybody else possibly can? These clowns are making the mockery out of a holy religion!
#33 by dawsheng on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 8:48 pm
Again such action by JAIS has tarnished Islam as a peaceful religion. Such action not only inhuman but also will make more non-muslims fearful of Islam, we will be thinking where is the ending of such inhuman practices if not for greater conflict to come. A true muslim should know what is the right thing to do, and I am sure that there are plenty in Malaysia who knows such action by JAIS is unacceptable, hopefully more muslims can speak up and put an end to such inhuman practices.
#34 by pharisee on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 9:20 pm
First of all, we have to face the uncomfortable fact that Malaysia has Islam for her official religion. Blame our forepoliticians for this. Next Marimuthu and Raimah are rubber tappers. They do not have the status to fight for themselves. Thirdly Datuk Samy Vellu should say something. Gossip has it that his first wife is an estate lady.
#35 by accountability on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:03 pm
Islam being the official religion for Malaysia is NOT an uncomfortable fact – it’s the corrupt politicians and religious zealots who are making it a fearful and oppressive to the general public.
as far as I know, all religious preach love & peace
#36 by MY VIEW on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:16 pm
Again another one of these …….. what more to write?
#37 by ahkok1982 on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:28 pm
any reporter out there who is pissed off enough, hav enough free time or would like to bring justice out there? juz follow these so called pious and religious officers for a week. take note of their activities n u will usually c tt they do not lead e muslim life tt they preach.
if those religious zealots were to really b tt zealous of upholding e rule of islam, u will c tt there is juz not enough holding cells for their so called counselling. juz c how many malay muslims out there who are smoking, drinking alcohol, hav close proximity relationships, do not wear tudung or gamble. they would b outnumbered 100:1.
seems like they r juz targetting non-muslims juz for e thrill of it.
#38 by marcuschwen on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:33 pm
Even Indonesia have more religious freedom than BOlehland. What else can I say?
#39 by Not spoon fed on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:34 pm
If you want to check your religion at your Mykad, insert it into your Astro decoder.
Someone would find this Registration department is a lousy department because someone would see the religion is not his/her.
#40 by marcuschwen on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:35 pm
“as far as I know, all religious preach love & peace”
true.
#41 by Not spoon fed on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:42 pm
Give another 30 years, Malaysia still could not be at what Singapore today.
The present prices and pricesses are preventing themselves from being rational, progressive and smart-minded. Look at present situation in Malaysia, you would know it well.
Those UMNOputra getting rich by getting government projects and tenders without open tender (like 2nd Penang bridge). Let’s see if Penangites would be sleeping or just kiasu or just coward enough to vote for opposition parties in the coming election.
You would see the Butterwoth Bus terminal project would be started when election near, next year.
#42 by Cinapek on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:44 pm
Remember the story of the founding of Melaka? And how Parameswara was inspired by the sang kancil that in desperation turned on the pack of dogs hounding it?
Well, at the rate these sickos are going about their inhumane acts of separating families and traumatising young children, do not be surprised that someday some of their victims will be driven to desperation and desperate people commit desperate acts. Just be warned.
All it takes is just a simple touch of humanity in handling such situations. Leave them together for the time being until a solution is worked out. If it takes time, so be it and recognise the fact it is so because it is difficult to resolve, otherwise we would not have to face such a situation.
Do not ever forcibly separate families and destroy the very fabric that holds humanity together. I cannot help but compare this with the efforts that were made to find the missing boy Yin so he can be reunited with his parents yet here these sickos are doing their damndest to separate the Marimuthu family. I do not profess to know Islam but I believe that if it is the great religion it is, it would never have encouraged its followers to commit such evil deeds. This kind of evil could only be committed by man.
#43 by Richard Teo on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:48 pm
After Rayaapan, Moorthy and Subashini case the Indians are still vociferously supporting B.N.When I see the indians at Machap supporting B.N my heart blleds for them. They are marginalised so badly and yet they have no idea why this is so.When will the indians wake up.The same applies also to the chinese in Machap.Looks like they will be enslaved for another generation.
#44 by Not spoon fed on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:54 pm
MIC is just a small party to get near a big party like BN.
Chinese in Machap fail to see that the basic things have not been implemented by previous state assemblyman and they still vote for MCA which is a puppet party like MIC.
When government contracts all gone to bumi contractors and they did lousy works, they blame the material suppliers (non bumi) for supplying lousy material (see newspapaer last week).
The Indian community is totally marginalised and they are sleeping.
#45 by Not spoon fed on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 10:59 pm
When Malaysia oil reserve finish in 17 years, you could see more “daytime robberies” are to happen in Malaysia. See here: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/4/17/north/17437227&sec=north
At that time, we are old and our children have grown up. But thanks God, they would not be in Malaysia at that time and I would be with them in Australia (a fair play country) that welcoming skilled and business immigrants.
#46 by grumpy on Tuesday, 17 April 2007 - 11:18 pm
I echo Richard Teo’s comments. The sad thing is that over the years many Indians (note that I did not say all Indians) side with the Malays and believe that the Chinese should be blamed for their economic predicament. So, I wasn’t surprised when DAP reported a sudden change of hearts among the Indians when Samy Vellu appeared at Machap.
#47 by cherasusie on Wednesday, 18 April 2007 - 1:18 am
my experience with the ic department:-
i did not put any religion in the application form when applying the new mycard.
the nutty officer insisted that i should have a religion and wanted to put my religion as buddhist.
i have to tell him that i am not stupid and i can read and i know whether i have a religion or not.
certainly he was not happy with me and purposely let me wait longer than needed.
this is one of the sickening treatments non-malays have to put up everyday but do they know?
you are against colonialism, against apatheid, you help free bosnina, you talk how best islam but do you know that you yourself are probagating racism… i presume unknowingly!
maju malaysia!
#48 by sheriff singh on Wednesday, 18 April 2007 - 2:07 am
Can a person put “Atheist” or “Free Thinker” in his MyKad application form?
#49 by HJ Angus on Wednesday, 18 April 2007 - 2:57 am
meanwhile our PM is busy trying to solve international conflicts of Darfur or rather basking in the OIC limelight and the DPM expounds wonderful theories on our schooling system – don’t forget he also had a hand in the Education Ministry.
At home the religious department act more like body snatchers than caring custodians of the faith.
We are surely sinking in the quicksand of tyranny.
http://malaysiawatch2.blogspot.com/2007/04/holistic-that-sounds-like-our-systems.html
#50 by grumpy on Wednesday, 18 April 2007 - 3:44 am
HJ:
We cannot blame him if he is dreaming of getting the Nobel peace prize for his peaceful work throughout the world. At home, no problem lah.