Comments on: Azmi Khalid, end 3-yr sleeping - gross injustice of Adorna case of forgery and fraudulent land transfer http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/ for Malaysia Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:15:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: I&T Penang Properties Blogs » Blog Archive » Safeguarding property ownership title deeds http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-131947 I&T Penang Properties Blogs » Blog Archive » Safeguarding property ownership title deeds Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:36:10 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-131947 [...] there are several land forgery cases recorded in Penang State. Apart from the one landmark case Boonsom Bunyanit vs Adorna Properties Sdn.Bhd, there are also a number of fraudulent cases involving lands in the [...] […] there are several land forgery cases recorded in Penang State. Apart from the one landmark case Boonsom Bunyanit vs Adorna Properties Sdn.Bhd, there are also a number of fraudulent cases involving lands in the […]

]]> By: Ulu Yam MCA local warlord becomes land grabber? « Colour-blind http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-4556 Ulu Yam MCA local warlord becomes land grabber? « Colour-blind Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:23:57 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-4556 [...] a statement calling on the Natural Resources and Environment Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid to stop sleeping on his job as he had neither done nor said a single word in his three years as Minister in charge of the land [...] […] a statement calling on the Natural Resources and Environment Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid to stop sleeping on his job as he had neither done nor said a single word in his three years as Minister in charge of the land […]

]]> By: Lim Kit Siang » Blog Archive » Adorna, post-Adorna, Adorna-like injustices and malpractices in Land Offices http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-4274 Lim Kit Siang » Blog Archive » Adorna, post-Adorna, Adorna-like injustices and malpractices in Land Offices Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:44:51 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-4274 [...] a statement calling on the Natural Resources and Environment Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid to stop sleeping on his job as he had neither done nor said a single word in his three years as Minister in charge of the land [...] […] a statement calling on the Natural Resources and Environment Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid to stop sleeping on his job as he had neither done nor said a single word in his three years as Minister in charge of the land […]

]]> By: Godamn Singh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3862 Godamn Singh Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:34:24 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3862 Don't know about the case. But what I do know is that between the two innocent parties, one is less innocent - and that is the one who has lost his or her 'virginity'. Damaged goods have less value. Don’t know about the case. But what I do know is that between the two innocent parties, one is less innocent - and that is the one who has lost his or her ‘virginity’. Damaged goods have less value.

]]> By: accountability http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3834 accountability Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:54:44 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3834 this azmi clown is the minister who ran the short-lived "tukar mykad dan menang kereta kancil" right? and yet he still remains in charge of natural resources ministry now - and recent news suggests that the paya indah wetlands will be the next victim of mismanagement and neglect AAB is so blind & lame! this azmi clown is the minister who ran the short-lived “tukar mykad dan menang kereta kancil” right?

and yet he still remains in charge of natural resources ministry now - and recent news suggests that the paya indah wetlands will be the next victim of mismanagement and neglect

AAB is so blind & lame!

]]> By: Loh http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3720 Loh Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:06:05 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3720 ///Commonsense dictates that the original owner Boonyanit’s family deserves the property that is rightfully theirs – and not third party Adorna./// The original landowner Boonyanit's family cannot be expected to check all the time whether the titles of his land remain in his name, as if to defend his property like guarding his home. The land should remain his no matter who has taken any actions to effect a change in the records at the registry of land titles. Adorna was cheated, and he should have the assistance of the government to recover the loss. But Boonyanit's family cannot be made to recompense the loss of Adorna. Between Boonyanits and Adorna, it was the latter who initiated actions to involve Boonyanits, so Boonyanits cannot be made to suffer. Obviously the laws would have aimed at the natural justice given in the above example. If the laws failed, then the state is responsible. When the Chief Justice decided otherwise, then he had taken the job of interpreting laws more literally than his job demands, that is to ensure justice. ///Commonsense dictates that the original owner Boonyanit’s family deserves the property that is rightfully theirs – and not third party Adorna.///

The original landowner Boonyanit’s family cannot be expected to check all the time whether the titles of his land remain in his name, as if to defend his property like guarding his home. The land should remain his no matter who has taken any actions to effect a change in the records at the registry of land titles.

Adorna was cheated, and he should have the assistance of the government to recover the loss. But Boonyanit’s family cannot be made to recompense the loss of Adorna. Between Boonyanits and Adorna, it was the latter who initiated actions to involve Boonyanits, so Boonyanits cannot be made to suffer.

Obviously the laws would have aimed at the natural justice given in the above example. If the laws failed, then the state is responsible. When the Chief Justice decided otherwise, then he had taken the job of interpreting laws more literally than his job demands, that is to ensure justice.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3530 Jeffrey Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:11:56 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3530 ...."..//...If one day, Jeffery, you decide to become a lawyer, I’ll be too happy and proud to move your Call....//..".... Honored by your kind gesture, look forward to it, but even if you were qualified and called to the Bar, you can't unless you re-start practice and renew pratising certificate on which occasion, if it happens, will introduce big clients to you to help your start up and you'll be looking to advising and structuring mega transactions like highway concessionaire agreements and other mega contracts awarded to BN's politicians or cronies (which you criticise in this Blog). You will have to arrange for some reputable law firms in New York/UK to tie up with your set up in Malaysia. Here the legal service like financial service industry is on the brink of liberalising and allowing for admission of foreign associates and partners and plenty opportunities abound (with fewer talent pool and players here). You should really consider. ….”..//…If one day, Jeffery, you decide to become a lawyer, I’ll be too happy and proud to move your Call….//..”….

Honored by your kind gesture, look forward to it, but even if you were qualified and called to the Bar, you can’t unless you re-start practice and renew pratising certificate on which occasion, if it happens, will introduce big clients to you to help your start up and you’ll be looking to advising and structuring mega transactions like highway concessionaire agreements and other mega contracts awarded to BN’s politicians or cronies (which you criticise in this Blog). You will have to arrange for some reputable law firms in New York/UK to tie up with your set up in Malaysia. Here the legal service like financial service industry is on the brink of liberalising and allowing for admission of foreign associates and partners and plenty opportunities abound (with fewer talent pool and players here). You should really consider.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3498 undergrad2 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:44:35 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3498 I'm surprised by the depth of knowledge you show on land law and the National Land Code. Let me just say that balancing equities is never easy. Somebody has to suffer - and it is not the rogue who has disappeared to enjoy the fruits of his crime somewhere in Hong Kong or Macau. I’m surprised by the depth of knowledge you show on land law and the National Land Code.

Let me just say that balancing equities is never easy. Somebody has to suffer - and it is not the rogue who has disappeared to enjoy the fruits of his crime somewhere in Hong Kong or Macau.

]]> By: undergrad2 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3492 undergrad2 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:10:40 +0000 http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/27/azmi-khalid-end-3-yr-sleeping-gross-injustice-of-adorna-case-of-forgery-and-fraudulent-land-transfer/#comment-3492 If one day, Jeffery, you decide to become a lawyer, I'll be too happy and proud to move your Call. Meanwhile allow me to read your posting which I missed. If one day, Jeffery, you decide to become a lawyer, I’ll be too happy and proud to move your Call.

Meanwhile allow me to read your posting which I missed.

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