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		<title>By: Malaysian Cabinet 2009 - A workable team &#171; Jebat Must Die</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/26/tun-ismail-no-ordinary-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-169368</link>
		<dc:creator>Malaysian Cabinet 2009 - A workable team &#171; Jebat Must Die</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] political future. He put in more than one thousand people in jail under the ISA and yet even the opposition revered him till today. In retrospect, he was the best man Tun Abdul Razak could have appointed. Fast forward to our time, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] political future. He put in more than one thousand people in jail under the ISA and yet even the opposition revered him till today. In retrospect, he was the best man Tun Abdul Razak could have appointed. Fast forward to our time, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: -&#124; amirsubhi journey &#124;- &#187; Tun Dr. Ismail Abd Rahman</title>
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		<dc:creator>-&#124; amirsubhi journey &#124;- &#187; Tun Dr. Ismail Abd Rahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tun Dr. Ismail Abd Rahman  21 10 2007   Its the malaysian leader that i respect the most[and i do believe lots of people too,even Lim Kit Siang [http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=98] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tun Dr. Ismail Abd Rahman  21 10 2007   Its the malaysian leader that i respect the most[and i do believe lots of people too,even Lim Kit Siang [http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=98] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Angry_Malaysian</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/26/tun-ismail-no-ordinary-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-34993</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry_Malaysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just goes to show that those older generations Malaysians were more advanced in thinking and open-minded than the present ones. Sorry dear Malaysians, this is a fact. Yet again, tribute to MALAYSIA BOLEH spirit!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just goes to show that those older generations Malaysians were more advanced in thinking and open-minded than the present ones. Sorry dear Malaysians, this is a fact. Yet again, tribute to MALAYSIA BOLEH spirit!!</p>
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		<title>By: Godamn Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godamn Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re still goddamn right, Undergrad2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re still goddamn right, Undergrad2</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/26/tun-ismail-no-ordinary-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-3332</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tunku was far left of the three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tunku was far left of the three.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/26/tun-ismail-no-ordinary-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-3331</link>
		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tun Ismail was headstrong, opinionated and dogmatic in his approach Ã¢â‚¬â€œ not easy to get along, was the opinion of his colleagues. His chosen style to interact with others was abrasive.

But the measure of a man is not in his chosen style of leadership, his personal idiosyncrasies  but is in his actions.

Of the three Tunku, Razak and Ismail, Razak was the more moderate. Tunku was more of a visionary leader whilst Razak was more of a hands on manager, much like Hussein Onn. Ismail? Well, he had very strong though sometimes inconsistent world view.

But it would be a mistake to characterize the  man as a Ã¢â‚¬ËœmoderateÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ politically. In Sino-Malay affairs Ismail would stand next to the likes of  Musa and the young Mahathir Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a Malay Ã¢â‚¬ËœultraÃ¢â‚¬â„¢.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tun Ismail was headstrong, opinionated and dogmatic in his approach Ã¢â‚¬â€œ not easy to get along, was the opinion of his colleagues. His chosen style to interact with others was abrasive.</p>
<p>But the measure of a man is not in his chosen style of leadership, his personal idiosyncrasies  but is in his actions.</p>
<p>Of the three Tunku, Razak and Ismail, Razak was the more moderate. Tunku was more of a visionary leader whilst Razak was more of a hands on manager, much like Hussein Onn. Ismail? Well, he had very strong though sometimes inconsistent world view.</p>
<p>But it would be a mistake to characterize the  man as a Ã¢â‚¬ËœmoderateÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ politically. In Sino-Malay affairs Ismail would stand next to the likes of  Musa and the young Mahathir Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a Malay Ã¢â‚¬ËœultraÃ¢â‚¬â„¢.</p>
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		<title>By: tsn</title>
		<link>http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2007/03/26/tun-ismail-no-ordinary-politician/comment-page-1/#comment-3329</link>
		<dc:creator>tsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actual picture is: Before even Tun Hussein Onn manages to open his mouth, Kerismudin will say: orang tua, you have wasted a lot of Malays time and opportunities, Malays are cursing you now, now I have to doubling up my effort to do whatever you didn&#039;t do.Tun Hussein Onn will nod his head and shamefully crawls back to his six feet long comfortable hero bed. Sekianlah sahaja.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actual picture is: Before even Tun Hussein Onn manages to open his mouth, Kerismudin will say: orang tua, you have wasted a lot of Malays time and opportunities, Malays are cursing you now, now I have to doubling up my effort to do whatever you didn&#8217;t do.Tun Hussein Onn will nod his head and shamefully crawls back to his six feet long comfortable hero bed. Sekianlah sahaja.</p>
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		<title>By: Jong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only would Tun Ismail crawl out of his grave at the Heroes Tomb, to repimand those responsible for the state our nation is in - polarised and corrupted to the core, Tun Hussein Onn would be rushing out ahead of him to use the keris on his own son Hishamuddin Tun Hussein Onn, wondering what had he done to deserve such a scumbag for a son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only would Tun Ismail crawl out of his grave at the Heroes Tomb, to repimand those responsible for the state our nation is in &#8211; polarised and corrupted to the core, Tun Hussein Onn would be rushing out ahead of him to use the keris on his own son Hishamuddin Tun Hussein Onn, wondering what had he done to deserve such a scumbag for a son.</p>
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		<title>By: undergrad2</title>
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		<dc:creator>undergrad2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismail was a controversial UMNO politician who did not see eye to eye with those around him - especially Tunku. In his relationship   with others  he was abrasive, blunt, more feared than popular. When Tunku was busy projecting his image as the Ã¢â‚¬Å“happiest Prime Minister in the worldÃ¢â‚¬Â in the years immediately leading to the race riots of 1969,  Ismail and Razak and Ghazalie Shafie  were making decisions for him from behind the scenes.

He was what you call those days an &#039;ultra&#039; among UMNO leaders. As a westernized Malay individual  educated abroad, he often appeared conflicted. He was fond of pants with flairs, wore white shoes and scarfs - seldom seen without his pipe. He carved an unusual if not aberrant figure those days. He  definitely was not a Malay traditionalist but like other Malays educated overseas, a professional from a  newly emerging elite Malay class.  As a Malay leader he was impatient for change,  struggled in search of the correct mindset for the Malays to emulate in a world  fast modernizing, and during a time when &#039;modernization&#039; stood for nothing much more than &#039;westernization&#039;.

I would love to read Ooi Kee Beng&#039;s biography on Ismail. I expect it to be more  balanced and objective than had it been written by a Malay. As a biography written by a non-Malay  on a Malay leader the downside is that it may be superficial on occasions in the treatment of things Malay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismail was a controversial UMNO politician who did not see eye to eye with those around him &#8211; especially Tunku. In his relationship   with others  he was abrasive, blunt, more feared than popular. When Tunku was busy projecting his image as the Ã¢â‚¬Å“happiest Prime Minister in the worldÃ¢â‚¬Â in the years immediately leading to the race riots of 1969,  Ismail and Razak and Ghazalie Shafie  were making decisions for him from behind the scenes.</p>
<p>He was what you call those days an &#8216;ultra&#8217; among UMNO leaders. As a westernized Malay individual  educated abroad, he often appeared conflicted. He was fond of pants with flairs, wore white shoes and scarfs &#8211; seldom seen without his pipe. He carved an unusual if not aberrant figure those days. He  definitely was not a Malay traditionalist but like other Malays educated overseas, a professional from a  newly emerging elite Malay class.  As a Malay leader he was impatient for change,  struggled in search of the correct mindset for the Malays to emulate in a world  fast modernizing, and during a time when &#8216;modernization&#8217; stood for nothing much more than &#8216;westernization&#8217;.</p>
<p>I would love to read Ooi Kee Beng&#8217;s biography on Ismail. I expect it to be more  balanced and objective than had it been written by a Malay. As a biography written by a non-Malay  on a Malay leader the downside is that it may be superficial on occasions in the treatment of things Malay.</p>
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